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D3 Regimen and a Bad Cold
Mar 4^th, 2014 at 3:39pm

I'm back. I was 5 months PF so I decided to cut down on my D3 intake at the request of my wife. I all but stopped the regimen, then i started getting shadows and Feb. 21'st I was in a full blown cycle.
I started the D3 reg again that same night since it works so well for me.
1. 15000 IU D3
2. 1200 Mg Omega 3
3. 500 Mg Mag
I seemed to be feeling better, no tinnitus, no aura. then this past Saturday, March 1'st, I start coming down with a bad cold, almost like a flu. Coughing, stuffy head, tight chest, body aches. Only taking Ibuprofen to ease the aches my hits have been every night and during the day.
I am attributing it to the sinus congestion?
This morning I had an episode that was off the scale! I hopped in a hot shower and it subsided.
Anyone else experience this when they get a cold?

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Re: D3 Regimen and a Bad Cold
Reply #1 - Mar 4^th, 2014 at 4:13pm

Hey Rod,

That's a strange request... How does your wife feel about your dose of vitamin D3 now? My wife thinks I'm crazy when I intentionally stop taking vitamin D3 and the rest of the anti-inflammatory regimen as a burn-down test of my 25(OH)D reserves...

It appears your burn-down test was successful.

Experiencing a relapse while taking the anti-inflammatory regimen when a cold strikes is quite common.

Viral infections like colds and flu trigger an immune response that sucks up 25(OH)D and 1,25(OH)2D3 like gang-busters... That leaves an insufficient concentration of these metabolites to prevent your CH.

If I feel a cold coming, I double the daily dose to 20,000 IU/day and take a 50,000 IU loading dose once a week on top of the daily dose until the cold symptoms are completely gone.

I also take 1,000 mg vitamin C four to five times a day...

Hope this helps.

Take care and please keep us posted.

V/R, Batch

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Reply #2 - Mar 4^th, 2014 at 5:13pm

Batch,
I think after she had to dry me off after my hot shower this morning, because I could hardly move, she will no longer suggest that I 'wean' myself off the D.
Yes I would say the test was a success, no more testing for this 'ol man though, D3 regimen everyday!

I was hoping it was just this cold I have draining me of the D, thanks for confirming. I feel better already! Going to add a loading dose to try and get back to where i was before Saturday.

When I was tested last August my count was only 75 and I had been on the regimen for 3 months prior so I guess I am severely deficient.
I'm going to make an appt with my GP soon to get my blood work done again just to see what it looks like now.

Thank you for getting back to me Batch, for me, you are the rock star of this board!

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Re: D3 Regimen and a Bad Cold
Reply #3 - Mar 4^th, 2014 at 6:34pm

Last weekend my supporter pointed out that I hadn't had to see my neuro for quite a long time but I was still taking a lot of tablets (D3, fish oil,etc.), so maybe I should see her to confirm if I should still be taking them.

It didn't take long to point out that there might just be a connection between D3 and not needing to see the neuro.

I'll use Rod's example as another good bit of evidence.

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Reply #4 - Mar 4^th, 2014 at 6:56pm

Mike,
IMHO, D3 reg is the way to go. For 5 months I didn't even think about going back to my GP until now, For me it is my saving grace. I know it doesn't work for everyone and thats too bad. Nobody should have to bear the pain that is a CH.

My wife and I try not to take any prescription meds unless absolutely neccesary so the supplements are a godsend.

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Reply #5 - Mar 5^th, 2014 at 11:13am

Hey Rod,

Thanks for the kind words... As you've already found out... this regimen isn't a cure so we need to stay on a maintenance dose of vitamin D3 around 10,000 IU/day... plus the cofactors...

It's interesting to note that the average 25(OH)D response reported by CH'ers taking 10,000 IU/day is 78 ng/mL...

That means your 25(OH)D response was spot on... Once you're back at 10,000 IU/day vitamin D3 and still PF for at least a month, see your PCP for the 25(OH)D lab test

Take care and please keep us posted.

V/R, Batch

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Reply #6 - Mar 12^th, 2014 at 8:49am

***Update***

Just wanted to let everyone know how I'm doing after this flu I've had since 3/1.
It's been 19 days on the D3 reg and the past 3 nights I have had no hits when going to bed or during the day.
Taking
15,000 D3
1200 fish oil/Omega 3
500 Mag
An additional 10,000 D3 in the evening for the past week to boost my level because of the virus I've had.
The virus is not completely gone yet but I am about 90%, still have some congestion in my chest and sinus.
Hence the reason for the additional D3

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RodinPA CH.com Newbie Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 8	Re: D3 Regimen and a Bad Cold Reply #8 - Mar 13^th, 2014 at 6:32pm Will do Batch. I must say though that the C counteracts my Paxil so I"ll stick to only 1000 a day. Almost felling human again man. Life is good!
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Batch CH.com Alumnus Offline Control The Beast With O2 & D3 You Must Posts: 3708 Bremerton, WA Gender:	Re: D3 Regimen and a Bad Cold Reply #9 - Mar 13^th, 2014 at 7:45pm Rod, When you're feeling even better... drop the Paxil... You won't need an SSRI as long as you're up on vitamin D3... That is unless you're experiencing extreme power surges as my wife calls them... a.k.a. hot flashes... Take care, V/R, Batch
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Re: D3 Regimen and a Bad Cold
Reply #10 - Mar 18^th, 2014 at 9:35am

Hey Batch,
This has been the weirdest cycle I've had. I am now taking an extra 15,000 D3 at night for a total of 30,000 and am still getting auras during the day and slight hits when sitting still for a while in the evening.
Obviously I know that after this virus bout it's going to take a while to get my levels back up, hence the added dose in the evening before bed.
I must say though that your hyper breathing technique has been an added bonus to abort any hit I might get!
The weather here in PA has been up and down too, warm one day and cold the next with a snow storm added just for fun.
I've tried going off the 25 Mg of Paxil I'm on while I've been dosing D3 and it didn't work for me. I had to resume taking it.
I was on 32.5 Mg a couple years ago and have gone down to the 25 and this seems to keep me even, the wife didn't like me when I was off them and frankly I didn't like me either.
We call them brain zaps when coming down off the SSRI, not so much a hot flash but a 'zap' that goes right to the ends of your extremities.
OK back to work,
TTYL Rod

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Re: D3 Regimen and a Bad Cold
Reply #11 - Mar 18^th, 2014 at 12:27pm

Hey Rod,

Thanks for the update... and happy to hear the oxygen therapy forced vital capacity breathing technique is working well.

If you had to put numbers on the efficacy of the vitamin D3 regimen... what would you say are the % reductions in the frequency, severity and duration of your CH?

Are you taking any vitamin B12? Dr. Stasha Gominak, MD treats many of her patients with a vitamin D3 regimen similar to the anti-inflammatory regimen except she adds vitamin B12. She found many of her patients who were deficient in vitamin D3 were also deficient in vitamin B12.

Understand the need for Paxil... You and your wife are obviously experienced in how much to take. My comments on seeing if you still need it only apply once you've established a stable 25(OH)D serum concentration and you are completely free of CH symptoms. Even then work with your PCP if you feel up to a taper.

Take care and thanks again for the update.

V/R, Batch

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Re: D3 Regimen and a Bad Cold
Reply #12 - Mar 19^th, 2014 at 9:52am

Batch,
OTFVCB, too bad it doesn't spell spell something! We need a good acronym because it works like a charm for me.
I was considering trying to get O2 prescribed but don't think I need it now that I've learned to hyper breathe.

Frequency, severity and duration has been 90% diminished since starting the D3 reg February 21'st with some tweaking to the reg.
I haven't had any hits at night for the past week, only nagging shadows during the day however since upping my D intake 2 weeks ago to 15,000 in the morning and 15,000 at night even the daytime shadows are fading.
My true test is alcohol and I've managed to have a couple beers here and there this past week without any consequences and if I do feel something coming I start hyper breathing and "he" goes away.
So after another 3 weeks of the reg and being PF I will schedule an appointment to get my levels checked cause I am very curious. I wish I knew what they were before I started the reg again.
You mentioned B12, I started taking 1 Ml of sub-lingual B complex about 6 days ago. Hard to tell if it has had any affect or not. It does increase my energy level and thinking capacity so I'll stay on it for now.
Yes it would be nice to get off the SSRI, been on one or another for about 20 years but like I said, I need 'em for now, sadly. It's the only prescription drug I need. Everything else is Natures Bounty! I even take Red Yeast Rice instead of the statin he had me on. Yes my levels got to a good point but at what cost? Going to look into the Cholestfree, I think thats what you called it, you mentioned in another post.
Back to work....
TTYL<
Rod

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