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Oct 10th, 2012 at 1:59pm
 
Long time sufferer, but only recently diagnosed. I'm glad to see so many others out there pitching in but just wanted to clarify a few things:

I'm currently on my second cycle this year. The first was for 7 weeks in March/ April and I'm now about 5 weeks into my second (as of 10 October 2012). So am I chronic or episodic?

This cycle started as usual at night with the first at 9pm, the next at 1am, then 3am and then 5am. However over the last few days I've also started to get 2 or 3 headaches per day.

Therefore, as you say on the website that the cycles build in intensity to a peak before trailing off, can I tell myself that the worst is nearly over??

Also, you say that food, alcohol, smoking, strenuous exercise and sleep are the triggers during a cycle (what kind of ridiculous prank is this??!). As I'm a keen eater, an enthusiastic drinker, a lover of smoking and currently training for a marathon, would the correct prognosis be that I'm simply f$cked??!!

Cheers, and keep up the good work.

Mark.
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Reply #1 - Oct 10th, 2012 at 2:28pm
 
Hi Mark

Trying to answer your questions.

Since you had a gap of more than a month between your two cycles this year you are episodic. However don't get stressed about the definition. It is just a definition, it doesn't really make any difference to what symptoms you get or the treatment.

Different people have different endings to a cycle. For some it just fades away and for others it can build to a peak before abruptly stopping. Even for a given person it can vary.

As for triggers, alcohol is pretty common for most but not all. It is more likely for those chronic to be still able to enjoy it without getting a hit. For other triggers there is a lot more variation, so it is all down to what triggers affect you.
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Reply #2 - Oct 10th, 2012 at 6:20pm
 
If questioning triggers, it is usually a personal thing, different things for everyone. Alcohol is a very common one. I get real screamers if I even have a sip during high cycle, but can drink like a fish during remissions. Heat for long periods, or hot stuffy rooms are also triggers for me. Exercise... Some claim they can abort a hit by exercising hard, for others any exercise is a trigger. I would attempt it as an abort method if I lived somewhere where it got very cold outside, but without the cold element I would get nowhere. Between hits, I find exercise does not trigger (as long as I don't over do it) and makes me feel better overall.
Food is more complicated... Some have problems with aged or cured foods, dairy etc., but I find what I eat never effects my headaches. However, just letting myself get too hungry or too full will. It has more to do with body chemistry, getting really hungry then eating causes a rapid swing and pow. Or eating too much taxes the system and pow.
And the general rule for me is, if I am not in cycle, I can do anything without worrying about triggers.
I would suggest keeping a diary, that is always a good tool.
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Reply #3 - Oct 10th, 2012 at 9:12pm
 
Welcome to the board Mark, I'm the nosey guy!! Grin

Do you have an effective treatment regimen? Oxygen for aborting attacks, a decent prevent? Have you checked out the Batch Regimen, the vitamin supplements that are providing relief for so many? Want to make sure you're aware of the high percentage treatments. Glad you checked in.

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Reply #4 - Oct 11th, 2012 at 7:55am
 
Quote:
...a lover of smoking and currently training for a marathon,

Certainly enigmatic.
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Reply #5 - Oct 11th, 2012 at 9:21am
 
Enigmatic....Knucks for proper use of the word! Wink

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Reply #6 - Oct 12th, 2012 at 12:29am
 
Thanks for the replies! On treatments I'm currently not taking anything. I was only properly diagnosed in January and before that my biggest fear was that I wouldn't survive the next headache - I was sure they were a prelude to a stroke or an aneurysm. Now that I know that's not the case, I've found it easier to ride out the attacks. Removing possible death from the equation has led me to view the attacks as me vs them, each one a personal test that I have to overcome. It is mind games certainly, but strangely I get a sense of triumph every time!

I'm researching as much as I can but to be honest some of the treatments are fairly scary too! I'll certainly check out the batch treatment though (I'm living in the Middle East though and don't trust the generic drugs here so I'm on my own until I get back to civilisation).

Enigmatic? Me?! Perhaps, but I thought training for the marathon would help me kick the smokes. I'm not completely there yet, but it's certainly helped me cut down. The beer has also been cut out, which is a plus when you're a thirsty Irishman. To say that I'm looking forward to a few pints of the black stuff after the Dublin marathon at the end of the month would be a serious understatement!
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Reply #7 - Oct 12th, 2012 at 10:56am
 
Living in the middle east.hmm....that could prove problematic!  Are you working with a headache specialist neuro yet? We have seen the best results from doing so. There are hundreds of headache types, some which mimic CH, and it’s important to eliminate those before arriving at a firm diagnosis. I’ve had CH for 34years, they haven’t killed me yet! You need an organized approach to managing them so they don’t manage your life. I use a 3 pronged approach, many use a similar approach:

1: A good prevent med. A med I take daily, while on cycle, to reduce the number and intensity of my attacks. I use lithium, it blocks 60-70% of my attack. Verapamil is the most common first line prevent, topomax also has a loyal following. Some have to combine lithium and verapamil together to get relief. You mention a lot of the meds spound scary....I resisted lithium for many years because of it's Hollywood reputation. I pictured a mouth breathing zombie my wife wouldn't recognize. Turned out to be my silver bullet as it blocks 60-70% of my attacks. If i didn't tell you i was taking it you'd never know.

2: A transitional med. Most prevents will take up to 2 weeks to become effective. I go on a prednisone taper, from 80 mg to zero over a two week period to give me a break while my prevent builds up. Prednisone will provide up to 100% relief for many CH’ers but is harsh on the system and should only be used for short periods of time.

3: An abortive therapy, the attack starts, now what? Oxygen should be your first line abortive. Breathing pure 02 will abort an attack for me in less then 10 minutes, that’s completely pain free. Read this link as it must be used correctly or it will not work

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If you can't get medical oxygen in the east, weldling oxygen is just as good. Many here use it. Welding oxygen has to be just as pure as medical or the welds fail!


Imitrex nasal spray and injectables are very effective abortives. I use the injectables, they’re expensive, and I rarely use them, mostly just when I get caught away from the oxygen. The pill form generally works too slow to be effective for CH’ers.

Definitely work on getting the meds for the Batch regimen. Even shipping them from the US will be relatively cheap and they're helping so many on the board.

For now, get some energy drinks. Rock Star, Monster, any containing the combo of caffeine and taurine, chug it down as fast as you can when you feel an attack starting. Many can abort or at least really reduce an attack using these.

Finally, visit our sister board for “alternative” treatment methods outside of mainstream medicine. As you’ll see from all the success stories on this board, there is something to it.

clusterbusters.com


Read everything you can on this board, if you are a CH’er, knowledge is your best ally. We’ll help you all we can.

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Reply #8 - Oct 12th, 2012 at 1:40pm
 
I was rereading your post and notice like many here you are one that gets night hits constantly while trying to sleep (at least the night you described anyway)...
Along with the vitamins, try ordering some melatonin and take 9-12mg about a half hour before going to bed. Like everything, it has varying degrees of success with people, but most find it at least helps.
As far as cycle behavior... mine always started with night hits. Once the day hits start I know I am fully "in cycle". They also don't stop suddenly either. Once I get back to just night hits, I know the worst is over, and they will slowly reduce in frequency from there. But... they also have the tendency to change it up on you, just when you think you got it down.
As for your feelings of triumph over the beast... you must be pretty tough. I went 8 years without oxygen... and tough or not, it gets real old. Now I take my triumphs by literally blowing away the beast with O2 in 5-10 minutes. 5-10 minutes is all I am willing to spend fecking around with this beast. Kind of like, do you want to fight hand to hand, or just pull out the shotgun and be done with it?
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