Quote:I love logic and I love science but I loathe the capitalist motive that fuels it
If you had an idea that was novel, would you not assure that someone else does not make a lifetime income off of your idea. That's called a patent, and it is capitalistic. Either capitalize on what you discovered or somebody else will.
Capitalistic motives are not the root feeding logic and science. Some capitalize on nothing, on no logic or science. Capitalism is competitive.
The point being, there is no capitalism in pursuing research for the whys and hows of cluster headaches. If you come up with a remedy, capitalistic speaking, so fucking what -- is there money to be made. Who f_cking cares.
This is what makes the clusterbusters push so spectacular. Even if something could help us, quite marginally speaking, and it involves something previously known as LSD, how capitalistic does that idea sound? Not very.
General public: "Okay, we legalized pot prescriptions, now you say people need LSD. "We draw the line here", so it's not legal. The parallels drawn are: not legal = not useful.
Argue the smarts of getting around that, it's a tough go financially.
Basically your working with someone willing to put up the money to go ahead despite captitalistic motives, which means, selling the idea, research, and product to someone who
thinks they can capitalize on the product by marketing. The stigma: marketing a product base on LSD. Are you f_ckin' crazy?
Despite, the science and research is going on, happening, and happened because it seemed to work. The "whys" and "hows" are expensive to document, but it takes brains. Not only brains, but money that believes in those brains.
Old civilizations weren't looking for the whys and hows, that was left to the philosophers, only looking for something that worked. This can be practical, but not in modern day society, substantiation is important, and in modern day terms this takes money, proving you're right.
Why would anyone put up money to help you prove you had a remedy for cluster headaches if there was no market, ergo, no profit in it? Now that's not very capitalistic. What is the purpose in extending dollars to come up with a product that has a little market value? There are capitalistic motives placed on the investment dollar.
Yet it happens. The science and logic happens hoping to find a capitalistic motive, or it may not go on.
Should it go on? You and I say "yes", but it takes money, period.
Quote:The fact that ancient Amazonian cultures had somehow figured out how to extract the properties from one herb and combine them with MAOI properties from a another root...
The same goes on today. Attach a bromine atom to the LSD molecule rendering it non-hallucinogenic, well who's interested? We are, no others. Others who don't get clusters would be interested if it made them money.
Quote:conquistadors control the historical narrative
No they don't.
Quote:People forget how young industrial civilization actually is, and mistakenly conflate it's achievement with progress.
Progress is not defined by years, compare the Dark Ages to the Industrial Revolution.
Naturally, wherever one idea is formed and implemented, another problem is created. If you have electricity, it was an efficient achievement, yet the to create it made another problem, the energy source.
Knowledge is transferable, as TTNolan mentions. I agree with NZMike wholeheartedly.
Quote:you completely missed my point
No he didn't. Money has made things possible that weren't possible before. There is the concept of "funding" as opposed to the slave labor and witchdoctoring of yore. You don't mention the "other" aspects of precivilization.
Quote:Thanks for playing
Your point may be valid to you, but there's too much to ignore to believe it or be convincing.
Despite, we are here to work with this malady. There are hardships and roadblocks. Find a way from suffering that suits you, that is progress, and it's hoped it's transferable in any way,