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Introduction and a few observations/questions?
Aug 10th, 2012 at 8:39am
 
Hi everyone.
My first post, I am a 42 year old UK sufferer. I've had episodic clusters for about 20 years, diagnosed about 10 years ago.

Managed to go nearly three years but they are back! Previously suffered once or twice a year for 2/3 months. Not sure if my imagination but (so far) I don't think they are quite as severe this time round. I heard that things improve with age, anyone found the same?

Starting about two weeks ago I'm mainly having a one or two mildish (kip scale 4) at nights, sometimes the odd night none at all, sometimes a bit more heavy duty (kip scale 6). Just praying this isn't going to get worse.....

In the past I've tried the usual stuff - verapamil, imigran jabs and O2. This time round I'm only using O2 and so far so good.

I'm posted on the UK site (OUCH) a few years ago and asked about triggers. Was told alcohol was the *only* trigger end of story. Not sure about you guys but I know I am very food sensitive, paricularly vinegar, MSG, and cooked meats/sausages. Obviously alcohol is off the menu right now!  Angry

Look forward to working through this and hearing your views.

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Re: Introduction and a few observations/questions?
Reply #1 - Aug 10th, 2012 at 9:16am
 
Glad that you are aware of your OUCH group. They are a strong organization and well worth you attention.

The issue of triggers is a regular but inconclusive topic here. No question, alcohol is #1 but, interestingly, a goood study from Germany noted that white wine was not a trigger (for most).

Over the years we have a number of members agreeing that volitile cleaning fluids, pant thinners, etc. are triggers.

Are you satisfied with your health care? Large % of folks who are in GB report that local docs lack education/skill/ sophistication in treating Cluster. OUCH/UK says that you have the right to move directly to a headache clinic, by-passing local docs, if you wish to.

The PDF file, below, is the latest evaluation of the most commonly used meds. Good document to keep in you file and use as a discussion tool with your doc, if needed.
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Reply #2 - Aug 10th, 2012 at 10:12am
 
Hi Bob, thanks for the PDF.

I'm sure triggers are different for everyone, don't know what those Germans are up to but if I had a glass of white wine it would take my head off!!

I am lucky to have a very understanding doctor who in the past has always been happy to prescribe imigran/verapamil if I ask, supply of O2 has never been a problem. To be honest I think with the lack of knowledge available about clusters there's no point in asking to see a specialist, unless there have been any major breakthroughs in the last three years?

I haven't seen my doctor so far during this episode as I had a supply of O2 left over that's still OK. I'm going to try and beat it with just O2 this time if I can. I didn't really find verapamil too effective and had trouble coming off it last time, major pain! Imigran definitely worked in the past, but (so far) I'm not bad enough to warrant it. Famous last words  Smiley



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Reply #3 - Aug 10th, 2012 at 12:31pm
 
If you are satisfied with your doc and he is so accommodating re. meds, etc. -- very good!

Re. Verap: major issue in the inadequate relief is too low a dose. The usual levels used for heart issues are way below what Cluster folks need. Following is a widelly used protocol. The main drawbacks: unskilled docs are afraid! and often refuse. And, at these hige doses there is a modest risk of heart issues developing but easily caught with regular EKG and reducing the dose--but not such a big problem to prevent it from being the most widely used preventive for Cluster and the most effective (re. the PDF article.)
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Headache. 2004 Nov;44(10):1013-8.   


Individualizing treatment with verapamil for cluster headache patients.

Blau JN, Engel HO.


    Background.-Verapamil is currently the best available prophylactic drug for patients experiencing cluster headaches (CHs). Published papers usually state 240 to 480 mg taken in three divided doses give good results, ranging from 50% to 80%; others mention higher doses-720, even 1200 mg per day. In clinical practice we found we needed to adapt dosage to individual's time of attacks, in particular giving higher doses before going to bed to suppress severe nocturnal episodes. A few only required 120 mg daily. We therefore evolved a scheme for steady and progressive drug increase until satisfactory control had been achieved. Objective.-To find the minimum dose of verapamil required to prevent episodic and chronic cluster headaches by supervising each individual and adjusting the dosage accordingly. Methods.-Consecutive patients with episodic or chronic CH (satisfying International Headache Society (IHS) criteria) were started on verapamil 40 mg in the morning, 80 mg early afternoon, and 80 mg before going to bed. Patients kept a diary of all attacks, recording times of onset, duration, and severity. They were advised, verbally and in writing, to add 40 mg verapamil on alternate days, depending on their attack timing: with nocturnal episodes the first increase was the evening dose and next the afternoon one; when attacks occurred on or soon after waking, we advised setting an alarm clock 2 hours before the usual waking time and then taking the medication. Patients were followed-up at weekly intervals until attacks were controlled. They were also reviewed when a cluster period had ended, and advised to continue on the same dose for a further 2 weeks before starting systematic reduction. Chronic cluster patients were reviewed as often as necessary. Results.-Seventy consecutive patients, 52 with episodic CH during cluster periods and 18 with chronic CH, were all treated with verapamil as above. Complete relief from headaches was obtained in 49 (94%) of 52 with episodic, and 10 (55%) of 18 with chronic CH; the majority needed 200 to 480 mg, but 9 in the episodic, and 3 in the chronic group, needed 520 to 960 mg for control. Ten, 2 in the episodic and 8 in the chronic group, with incomplete relief, required additional therapy-lithium, sumatriptan, or sodium valproate. One patient withdrew because verapamil made her too tired, another developed Stevens-Johnson syndrome, and the drug was withdrawn. Conclusions.-Providing the dosage for each individual is adequate, preventing CH with verapamil is highly effective, taken three (occasionally with higher doses, four) times a day. In the majority (94%) with episodic CH steady dose increase under supervision, totally suppressed attacks. However in the chronic variety only 55% were completely relieved, 69% men, but only 20% women. In both groups, for those with partial attack suppression, additional prophylactic drugs or acute treatment was necessary. (Headache 2004;44:1013-1018).

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SLOW-RELEASE VERAPAMIL

Dr. Sheftell applauded the protocol for verapamil used by Dr. Goadsby and colleagues, which entailed use of short-acting verapamil in increments of 80 mg. “This method was suggested by Lee Kudrow, MD, 20 years ago as an alternative to slow-release verapamil,” Dr. Sheftell noted.

“I would agree with using short-acting verapamil, rather than the sustained-release formulation, in cluster headache,” he said. “I prefer the short-acting formulation with regard to ability to titrate more accurately and safely. My clinical experience anecdotally demonstrates improved responses when patients are switched from sustained-release verapamil to short-acting verapamil.”

Dr. Goadsby agreed that his clinical experience was similar. “There are no well-controlled, placebo-controlled, dose-ranging studies to direct treatment. This is one of those areas where clinicians who treat cluster headache have to combine what modicum of evidence is available with their own clinical experience,” Dr. Sheftell commented.
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