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Re: Trying to avoid CH while running
Reply #25 - Aug 31^st, 2012 at 1:31pm

I've run 2 marathons. I run in the heat and cold. My suggestion is this. For the heat, buy a camelbak, fill it with as many ice cubes as you can, then the rest water, and drink enough of the icy water, and keep a head wrap on and keep it wet with the icy water. Works for me, plus the icy water on your back keeps you cooler as well. Get the 100oz camelbak, as it's fairly large and will stay cold much longer. Even on the hottest days it lasts quite a while.

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AppleNutClusters CH.com Old Timer Offline 2012, Year of the Honey Badger Posts: 261 Richmond, Virgina, USA Gender:	Re: Trying to avoid CH while running Reply #26 - Aug 31^st, 2012 at 10:56pm That's a great idea, Mike. I hadn't thought about using a Camelbak. I'll have to save my pennies and try that.
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Mike Bernardo CH.com Veteran Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 231 Chesterfield, NJ Gender:	Re: Trying to avoid CH while running Reply #27 - Sep 1^st, 2012 at 5:03pm Try Amazon for good prices. New models just came out so the old models will be discounted and usually free shipping over $25.
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AppleNutClusters CH.com Old Timer Offline 2012, Year of the Honey Badger Posts: 261 Richmond, Virgina, USA Gender:	Re: Trying to avoid CH while running Reply #28 - Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 7:12pm Good advice (re: Amazon discounts!), so thanks! I had to take a week's break from running. I stupidly decided to try a full run in my new "barefoot-style" running shoes--needless to say, instant pain and blood blisters! Stupid me. I'll be needing a bit of recovery before trying my run again. LOL.
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tachead CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 93	Re: Trying to avoid CH while running Reply #29 - Sep 7^th, 2012 at 1:45pm Neuro and vascular stimulation is a trigger for me. YMMV tachead
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AppleNutClusters CH.com Old Timer Offline 2012, Year of the Honey Badger Posts: 261 Richmond, Virgina, USA Gender:	Re: Trying to avoid CH while running Reply #30 - Sep 7^th, 2012 at 6:26pm Tachead, not sure what you mean. Neuro stimulation to me just means anything that affects your nervous system--as in, everything! Can you be more specific?
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Re: Trying to avoid CH while running
Reply #31 - Sep 9^th, 2012 at 3:12am

Neuro stimulation to me = sensory input from environmental factors resulting in emotional or physical response creating neurochemical or endocrine activity that in turn triggers an attack. Sudden fear, fatigue, ect. Physical activity triggers an attack...this has happened to me anyway.
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Hope that clears it up for you. Wink

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Re: Trying to avoid CH while running
Reply #32 - Sep 10^th, 2012 at 10:56pm

Yeah, that clears it up somewhat. I knew that by starting running, I might trigger CH via exertion, heat, dehydration, or god-knows-what. And that was true for a while. But overall, the running has helped so far. Yes, I might trigger CH by running. But in the long term, running exerts me enough to help with sleep, which in turn may help with CH. It's all related. Somehow. Roll Eyes

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seaworthy CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Posts: 706	Re: Trying to avoid CH while running Reply #33 - Sep 15^th, 2012 at 12:03pm In a nutshell. If I did something that caused me extreme pain, then I'd stop doing that.
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Re: Trying to avoid CH while running
Reply #34 - Sep 15^th, 2012 at 2:49pm

seaworthy wrote on Sep 15^th, 2012 at 12:03pm:

In a nutshell. If I did something that caused me extreme pain, then I'd stop doing that.

But what if you had spent a year trying many different drugs, vitamins, oxygen, supplements, and treatments? Would you be willing to try something "crazy" like getting more exercise? It does cause me pain sometimes, but that's often part of any medical treatment. It hurts to get stitches, but in the long run, it heals the wound.

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Re: Trying to avoid CH while running
Reply #35 - Sep 15^th, 2012 at 6:54pm

But when you started this thread, you gave no indication that you were trying to run as a treatment for CH.

I'm confused. Running has its benefits, I guess, but your question about "...try(ing) something 'crazy' like getting more exercise" to treat your condition doesn't fit with your original goal of trying to avoid CH while running.

Some people say they can abort attacks by engaging in vigorous exercise at the onset. I never tried it, so I don't have any first-hand experience.

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Re: Trying to avoid CH while running
Reply #36 - Sep 15^th, 2012 at 7:24pm

I think I mentioned more than once that I was hoping exercise would help with the clusters and insomnia? Yes, running is causing CH attacks in the short-term. My hope is that it will help with treatment of the condition over time as I improve my overall fitness. And it's just a hope, not like I have any medical basis for this experiment. I feel it is better than doing nothing.

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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: Trying to avoid CH while running Reply #37 - Sep 15^th, 2012 at 8:20pm Then I hope it works for you.
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AppleNutClusters CH.com Old Timer Offline 2012, Year of the Honey Badger Posts: 261 Richmond, Virgina, USA Gender:	Re: Trying to avoid CH while running Reply #38 - Sep 15^th, 2012 at 10:06pm Thanks man, I hope so too. And I will be the first to come back and admit if it doesn't.
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ttnolan CH.com Veteran Offline beats me Posts: 247 Scotts Valley, CA Gender:	Re: Trying to avoid CH while running Reply #39 - Sep 16^th, 2012 at 2:54pm Getting in top shape is a good idea. It did not treat my CH, but my overall feeling of well being was improved, making it easier to tuff out the CH. Bounce back quicker, feel better... why not?
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AppleNutClusters CH.com Old Timer Offline 2012, Year of the Honey Badger Posts: 261 Richmond, Virgina, USA Gender:	Re: Trying to avoid CH while running Reply #40 - Sep 16^th, 2012 at 9:17pm Exactly, ttnolan. Plus as I've gotten better at running, it's feeling more and more like flying. And after a year of daily CH, that's a feeling I'm starting to really cherish. On a more concrete note, I'm also wondering if running will increase my V02 max and make me more efficient at huffing oxygen.
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Re: Trying to avoid CH while running
Reply #41 - Sep 17^th, 2012 at 8:40am

Apple, yes it will. When I was nearing my max level of fitness preparing for both the Philly and the San Diego marathons, I noticed that, while my HAs were still present, I had the most noticible reduction in them and fastest ability by running, mostly due to my fitness level and ability to take in oxygen. The key is being able to process oxygen quickly to get it to your brain and ease the pain.

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