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Jul 31st, 2012 at 7:44pm
 
I have just recently started with cluster headaches...I am so miserable..I woke up last night with the worst one so far This one is number 4 for me. I basically had to crawl out of bed holding my left eye to try to find something for relief but as I have been researching I find that over the counter meds do not work well. I have made an appointment for Thursday with my MD to get some relief of some sort.(I have not been formally dx yet). Is it normal to have several small headaches throughout the day. Its mainly around my left eye and the back of my head. I have never ever experienced any headaches like these. I don't want to go to bed as I am scared to wake up to another one of these headaches.. I do want to add that the first 3 were bad but nothing like the one I had last night. I am sorry if I seem to be rambling I am just trying to get it all out.  Kiss
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Reply #1 - Aug 1st, 2012 at 8:07am
 
Please tell us where you live. Follow the next line to a message which explains why knowing your location and your medical history will help us to help you.

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When you are just startng to experience--what may be Cluster--the symptoms are often quite unstable. Changes in location, type, quality, intensity, timing of attacks often change. This variability may continue for months before settling into a stable pattern.

Assume you are seeing your primary care doc. It's uncommon for this group to have the knowledge, training, and skill needed to handle complex headache disorders--and these are not simple pain issues. Apart from presenting your problem to him, ask directly about his confidence to treat you, especially if he believes you are experiencing Cluster.

Our experience suggests that working with a specialist offers the best potential for effective diagnosis and treatment.
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LOCATING HEADACHE SPECIALIST

1. Search the OUCH site (button on left) for a list of recommended M.D.s.


2. Yellow Pages phone book: look for "Headache Clinics" in the M.D. section and look under "neurologist" where some docs will list speciality areas of practice.

3.  Call your hospital/medical center. They often have an office to assist in finding a physician. You may have to ask for the social worker/patient advocate.

4. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register; On-line screen to find a physician.

5. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register Look for "Physician Finder" search box. They will send a list of M.D.s for your state.I suggest using this source for several reasons: first, we have read several messages from people who, even seeing neurologists, are unhappy with the quality of care and ATTITUDES they have encountered; second, the clinical director of the Jefferson (Philadelphia) Headache Clinic said, in late 1999, that upwards of 40%+ of U.S. doctors have poor training in treating headache and/or hold attitudes about headache ("hysterical female disorder") which block them from sympathetic and effective work with the patient; third, it's necessary to find a doctor who has experience, skill, and a set of attitudes which give hope of success. This is the best method I know of to find such a physician.

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        Since this is a new program, the initial listing is limited and so it should be checked each time you have an interest in locating a headache doctor.
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Since you know that OTC pain meds don't work--stop using!--for they will only increase the frequency and pain of your attacks.

IF your doc agrees that it appears to be Cluster, then start some basic learning about a condition which you will have to learn to cope with for some time.

Explore the buttons, left, starting with the OUCH site.
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A couple of sites which are worth your attention: medical literature, films, plus the expected information
about CH.

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This is a bit complex but tuck aside for future use.


Cluster headache.
From: Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register (Orphanet Journal of Rare Diseases)
[Easy to read; one of the better overview articles I've seen. Suggest printing the full length article--link, line above--if you are serious about keeping a good medical library on the subject.]

Leroux E, Ducros A.

ABSTRACT: Cluster headache (CH) is a primary headache disease characterized by recurrent short-lasting attacks (15 to 180 minutes) of excruciating unilateral periorbital pain accompanied by ipsilateral autonomic signs (lacrimation, nasal congestion, ptosis, miosis, lid edema, redness of the eye). It affects young adults, predominantly males. Prevalence is estimated at 0.5-1.0/1,000. CH has a circannual and circadian periodicity, attacks being clustered (hence the name) in bouts that can occur during specific months of the year. ALCOHOL IS THE ONLY DIETARY TRIGGER OF CH, STRONG ODORS (MAINLY SOLVENTS AND CIGARETTE SMOKE) AND NAPPING MAY ALSO TRIGGER CH ATTACKS. During bouts, attacks may happen at precise hours, especially during the night. During the attacks, patients tend to be restless. CH may be episodic or chronic, depending on the presence of remission periods. CH IS ASSOCIATED WITH TRIGEMINOVASCULAR ACTIVATION AND NEUROENDOCRINE AND VEGETATIVE DISTURBANCES, HOWEVER, THE PRECISE CAUSATIVE MECHANISMS REMAIN UNKNOWN. Involvement of the hypothalamus (a structure regulating endocrine function and sleep-wake rhythms) has been confirmed, explaining, at least in part, the cyclic aspects of CH. The disease is familial in about 10% of cases. Genetic factors play a role in CH susceptibility, and a causative role has been suggested for the hypocretin receptor gene. Diagnosis is clinical. Differential diagnoses include other primary headache diseases such as migraine, paroxysmal hemicrania and SUNCT syndrome. At present, there is no curative treatment. There are efficient treatments to shorten the painful attacks (acute treatments) and to reduce the number of daily attacks (prophylactic treatments). Acute treatment is based on subcutaneous administration of sumatriptan and high-flow oxygen. Verapamil, lithium, methysergide, prednisone, greater occipital nerve blocks and topiramate may be used for prophylaxis. In refractory cases, deep-brain stimulation of the hypothalamus and greater occipital nerve stimulators have been tried in experimental settings.THE DISEASE COURSE OVER A LIFETIME IS UNPREDICTABLE. Some patients have only one period of attacks, while in others the disease evolves from episodic to chronic form.

PMID: 18651939 [PubMed]
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Print out he PDF file below. Give a copy to your doc, you keep a copy.
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Do your best to control the panic. We have all made this journey and have learned that control is very likely, that skill in understand our problem is essential, and that learning how to be in charge without being totally absorbed by our situation is a survival skill.




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Reply #2 - Aug 1st, 2012 at 9:04am
 
Until you are diagnosed and have a good headache specialist, it will be hard to alleviate the symptoms. They may or may not be CHs, but is it normal to have little HA's throughout the day? No, we're not supposed to be in pain. Yes, it is normal for CH sufferers; we call them shadows. Do your homework before the appointment: take the quiz at left and bring that; write down all you can about times of attacks and levels of pain intensity; and read on this site a lot, taking notes. Hopefully you have something easier to treat than CHs. blessings. lance
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Reply #3 - Aug 1st, 2012 at 9:33pm
 
Hang in there. Soon they will be gone and you will go back to your normal life again, and all will be well.

Untill the next cycle. Get your weapons in order!!!

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boy i cant wait till it's my turn to give him a headache. paybacks a bitch
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Reply #4 - Aug 1st, 2012 at 10:32pm
 
"Do your best to control the panic. We have all made this journey and have learned that control is very likely, that skill in understand our problem is essential, and that learning how to be in charge without being totally absorbed by our situation is a survival skill."

Bob - what an important and well crafted statement.  It really speaks to me.  It is a fine line, indeed, we walk.  Every trip that lasts more than __________ (fill in your # here).  Getting it all in order every night before retiring.  Trying to be productive when I'm wiped out from grappling with the beast.  Thanks again.

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Reply #5 - Aug 3rd, 2012 at 9:27am
 
For what it's worth, I sincerely hope it isn't clusters. But if it does turn out to be that, then welcome to the club. If you've already found this place after only 4 clusters, then you're already well ahead of the curb. Most of us suffer for quite some time before we find out what's going on in our heads Cheesy
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Reply #6 - Sep 10th, 2012 at 12:39pm
 
Hey My name is Johnny and I am a 35 year clusterhead.
I have a couple of home remedies that might help some people who are in the middle of a full blown Cluster and that is to eat  finely crushed Ice mixed in water or plain....use your blender or even suck on an Ice cube helps some times The idea is to freeze which ever side of your face your cluster is on by freezing your teeth and mouth. and the other extreme is you lucky guys and girls is sex, yes sex helps! believe me or not this comes with years of experience as my wife helped me get rid of many clusters (I am not joking!).....Johnny
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Reply #7 - Sep 10th, 2012 at 12:53pm
 
Hey, Johnny again! These guy's are right! until you are properly diagnosed You could have several different things so hopefully
you don't even have Clusters but if you do you are definitely
in the right place....Best of luck ....God Bless ......Johnny
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Reply #8 - Sep 10th, 2012 at 1:06pm
 
It took me 18 years before I was properly diagnosed but that was back in the dark ages of the 70's and 80"s when they really didn't have a clue so don't let that discourage you now ....Now they have a much better handle on diagnoses and treatment. My treatment for the first 15 years was self hypnosis and self medicating on 200 excedrin weekly with no real pain relief .... I had 3 ulcers by the time I was 30
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Reply #9 - Sep 11th, 2012 at 8:24pm
 
The V.A. hospital set me up with oxygen, I use 8 ltr for 10 minutes. This is the only relief I have found that works. I have it next to my bed.
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