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May 29th, 2012 at 3:58pm
 
Hi, All! 
     My name is TJ and I have been suffering from CH since 1995.  My CH is eposidic and of course the have returned!! I found this sight one night when I was looking for relief from the onset of a late night CH.
     I was CH frfor 2 years until three weeks ago!  I couldn't believe they were back!  In the past I have used Imitrex, but that stopped working on my last CH episode. Beta Blockers I was headache free for 2 days. Then just suffered through my last episode with little help from a neurologist and my Doctor.
     This episode I am trying to be more proactive because the pain is much more intense than I remember.  I am trying a Prednisone Burst from my DOC. but it does not seem to be working.  I have also tried relpax which has helped somewhat but not enough.
     I forgot to mention I have to CH a day usually around the same time.
     This memeorial day weekend I had my wife take me to the ER because I could not handle the pain.  I have tried the energy drinks to and it helped with one but thats it.  I feel like the beast knows my every move, and is always out smarting me!!!
     Any tips would be much appreciated.  I have now missed several days of work.  Thankfully I help with a family business and my father is somewhat understanding.  Although sometimes he feels like I am over exaggerating. 
     I need to take control!  My doctor feels that oxygen is not an option for me which I don't understand!!  Please help me I am becoming desperate.  I just want to be normal again!!!  Thanks for reading and feel free to ask me questions.     TJ
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Reply #1 - May 29th, 2012 at 4:09pm
 
Hi TJ, and welcome, although I am sure you would much rather not have to be here. Where to start? OK, your doctor is an idiot, or an idiot in waiting. O2 is the best abortive for so many of us it will one day be universally recognized. For now, so many doctors haven't a clue what to do for us. Push for it, after reading up here (see the oxygen info tab at the left? click that) and making careful note of the need for high flow O2, that's minimum 15lpm, better at 25lpm. Also, there are other abortives around that are helpful, but the imitrex injectables are the fastest. And you should have a good preventative. There are so many, but verapamil (340-920mg/day) is the most common. Remember, most docs receive very little education on headaches, and almost none on CHs. A good headache neurologist can be very helpful as you wend your way through the cluster maze. Read a lot, ask questions. God bless. lance
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Reply #2 - May 29th, 2012 at 8:41pm
 
Thanks Lance! I appreciate the info.
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Reply #3 - May 29th, 2012 at 10:05pm
 
LOCATING HEADACHE SPECIALIST

1. Search the OUCH site (button on left) for a list of recommended M.D.s.


2. Yellow Pages phone book: look for "Headache Clinics" in the M.D. section and look under "neurologist" where some docs will list speciality areas of practice.

3.  Call your hospital/medical center. They often have an office to assist in finding a physician. You may have to ask for the social worker/patient advocate.

4. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register; On-line screen to find a physician.

5. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register Look for "Physician Finder" search box. They will send a list of M.D.s for your state.I suggest using this source for several reasons: first, we have read several messages from people who, even seeing neurologists, are unhappy with the quality of care and ATTITUDES they have encountered; second, the clinical director of the Jefferson (Philadelphia) Headache Clinic said, in late 1999, that upwards of 40%+ of U.S. doctors have poor training in treating headache and/or hold attitudes about headache ("hysterical female disorder") which block them from sympathetic and effective work with the patient; third, it's necessary to find a doctor who has experience, skill, and a set of attitudes which give hope of success. This is the best method I know of to find such a physician.

6. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register NEW certification program for "Headache Medicine" by the United Council for Neurologic Subspecialties, an independent, non-profit, professional medical organization.
        Since this is a new program, the initial listing is limited and so it should be checked each time you have an interest in locating a headache doctor.
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If the steroid is not working, it's common to start the series over with a higher starting dose.

Verapamil is regarded as first choice for a preventive.
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Headache. 2004 Nov;44(10):1013-8.   


Individualizing treatment with verapamil for cluster headache patients.

Blau JN, Engel HO.


    Background.-Verapamil is currently the best available prophylactic drug for patients experiencing cluster headaches (CHs). Published papers usually state 240 to 480 mg taken in three divided doses give good results, ranging from 50% to 80%; others mention higher doses-720, even 1200 mg per day. In clinical practice we found we needed to adapt dosage to individual's time of attacks, in particular giving higher doses before going to bed to suppress severe nocturnal episodes. A few only required 120 mg daily. We therefore evolved a scheme for steady and progressive drug increase until satisfactory control had been achieved. Objective.-To find the minimum dose of verapamil required to prevent episodic and chronic cluster headaches by supervising each individual and adjusting the dosage accordingly. Methods.-Consecutive patients with episodic or chronic CH (satisfying International Headache Society (IHS) criteria) were started on verapamil 40 mg in the morning, 80 mg early afternoon, and 80 mg before going to bed. Patients kept a diary of all attacks, recording times of onset, duration, and severity. They were advised, verbally and in writing, to add 40 mg verapamil on alternate days, depending on their attack timing: with nocturnal episodes the first increase was the evening dose and next the afternoon one; when attacks occurred on or soon after waking, we advised setting an alarm clock 2 hours before the usual waking time and then taking the medication. Patients were followed-up at weekly intervals until attacks were controlled. They were also reviewed when a cluster period had ended, and advised to continue on the same dose for a further 2 weeks before starting systematic reduction. Chronic cluster patients were reviewed as often as necessary. Results.-Seventy consecutive patients, 52 with episodic CH during cluster periods and 18 with chronic CH, were all treated with verapamil as above. Complete relief from headaches was obtained in 49 (94%) of 52 with episodic, and 10 (55%) of 18 with chronic CH; the majority needed 200 to 480 mg, but 9 in the episodic, and 3 in the chronic group, needed 520 to 960 mg for control. Ten, 2 in the episodic and 8 in the chronic group, with incomplete relief, required additional therapy-lithium, sumatriptan, or sodium valproate. One patient withdrew because verapamil made her too tired, another developed Stevens-Johnson syndrome, and the drug was withdrawn. Conclusions.-Providing the dosage for each individual is adequate, preventing CH with verapamil is highly effective, taken three (occasionally with higher doses, four) times a day. In the majority (94%) with episodic CH steady dose increase under supervision, totally suppressed attacks. However in the chronic variety only 55% were completely relieved, 69% men, but only 20% women. In both groups, for those with partial attack suppression, additional prophylactic drugs or acute treatment was necessary. (Headache 2004;44:1013-1018).

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SLOW-RELEASE VERAPAMIL

Dr. Sheftell applauded the protocol for verapamil used by Dr. Goadsby and colleagues, which entailed use of short-acting verapamil in increments of 80 mg. “This method was suggested by Lee Kudrow, MD, 20 years ago as an alternative to slow-release verapamil,” Dr. Sheftell noted.

“I would agree with using short-acting verapamil, rather than the sustained-release formulation, in cluster headache,” he said. “I prefer the short-acting formulation with regard to ability to titrate more accurately and safely. My clinical experience anecdotally demonstrates improved responses when patients are switched from sustained-release verapamil to short-acting verapamil.”

Dr. Goadsby agreed that his clinical experience was similar. “There are no well-controlled, placebo-controlled, dose-ranging studies to direct treatment. This is one of those areas where clinicians who treat cluster headache have to combine what modicum of evidence is available with their own clinical experience,” Dr. Sheftell commented.
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Relpax is O.K. but for Cluster the first choice is Imitrex injection for it has a harder first punch and faster starting action--essential for Cluster. Also, any abortive you use should be used at the first sign of an attack. Don't wait to see if the signs develop fully before using.
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