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I realised.. its a cluster headache
Apr 24th, 2012 at 9:30am
 
Minutes ago after some research i just found out that i have suffered from cluster headaches for 9 years. My very first and by far most painful was at 7, before christmas. I had no idea what the pain was or what was happening. Parents thought it was just a normal headache so for 5 years i began to think that. When i was 12 i did some research and guessed it was a migraine headache. Minutes ago (16 now) i did further research and found out it was a cluster headache this whole time.

How i would describe the pain. Happens directly at my right eye. Feels like my eye is being stabbed from behind. Whenever i get the first throb of pain behind my eye i wait 2 minutes to see if it gets worse. I usually take medication and sleep in my room if it does. When i was 10 i got a really bad one, felt like ripping out my eye. I dont think it is passed down. My father has headaches and constantly tells me its the same but when he has them he says it doesnt hurt that much at all whereas i describe it as the worst pain ever.
Is this the same with everyone? comments? anything....
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Re: I realised.. its a cluster headache
Reply #1 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:37am
 
Since, I assume, you will be with us for some time!

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Since there is some genetic factor with Clusters you and your father may wish to share much of what, I hope, you will be learning. 

Unfortunately, there is no cure for Cluster but the range of effective treatments has expanded in the last few decades so that you have an excellent change of leading a quite comfortable life.

We strongly urge working with a headache specialist, if at all possible. The lack of education/skill/knowledge among, even neurologists, makes it so important to find a well grounded doc.
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LOCATING HEADACHE SPECIALIST

1. Search the OUCH site (button on left) for a list of recommended M.D.s.


2. Yellow Pages phone book: look for "Headache Clinics" in the M.D. section and look under "neurologist" where some docs will list speciality areas of practice.

3.  Call your hospital/medical center. They often have an office to assist in finding a physician. You may have to ask for the social worker/patient advocate.

4. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register On-line screen to find a physician.

5. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register Look for "Physician Finder" search box. They will send a list of M.D.s for your state.I suggest using this source for several reasons: first, we have read several messages from people who, even seeing neurologists, are unhappy with the quality of care and ATTITUDES they have encountered; second, the clinical director of the Jefferson (Philadelphia) Headache Clinic said, in late 1999, that upwards of 40%+ of U.S. doctors have poor training in treating headache and/or hold attitudes about headache ("hysterical female disorder") which block them from sympathetic and effective work with the patient; third, it's necessary to find a doctor who has experience, skill, and a set of attitudes which give hope of success. This is the best method I know of to find such a physician.

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Second line of attack is your personal knowledge. We have a good storehouse of experience & medical informaltion to share with you. Consistent reading of the messages is a good source; ditto for the buttons (left), starting with the OUCH site. A few sources to start digesting:
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Cluster headache.
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[Easy to read; one of the better overview articles I've seen. Suggest printing the full length article--link, line above--if you are serious about keeping a good medical library on the subject.]

Leroux E, Ducros A.

ABSTRACT: Cluster headache (CH) is a primary headache disease characterized by recurrent short-lasting attacks (15 to 180 minutes) of excruciating unilateral periorbital pain accompanied by ipsilateral autonomic signs (lacrimation, nasal congestion, ptosis, miosis, lid edema, redness of the eye). It affects young adults, predominantly males. Prevalence is estimated at 0.5-1.0/1,000. CH has a circannual and circadian periodicity, attacks being clustered (hence the name) in bouts that can occur during specific months of the year. ALCOHOL IS THE ONLY DIETARY TRIGGER OF CH, STRONG ODORS (MAINLY SOLVENTS AND CIGARETTE SMOKE) AND NAPPING MAY ALSO TRIGGER CH ATTACKS. During bouts, attacks may happen at precise hours, especially during the night. During the attacks, patients tend to be restless. CH may be episodic or chronic, depending on the presence of remission periods. CH IS ASSOCIATED WITH TRIGEMINOVASCULAR ACTIVATION AND NEUROENDOCRINE AND VEGETATIVE DISTURBANCES, HOWEVER, THE PRECISE CAUSATIVE MECHANISMS REMAIN UNKNOWN. Involvement of the hypothalamus (a structure regulating endocrine function and sleep-wake rhythms) has been confirmed, explaining, at least in part, the cyclic aspects of CH. The disease is familial in about 10% of cases. Genetic factors play a role in CH susceptibility, and a causative role has been suggested for the hypocretin receptor gene. Diagnosis is clinical. Differential diagnoses include other primary headache diseases such as migraine, paroxysmal hemicrania and SUNCT syndrome. At present, there is no curative treatment. There are efficient treatments to shorten the painful attacks (acute treatments) and to reduce the number of daily attacks (prophylactic treatments). Acute treatment is based on subcutaneous administration of sumatriptan and high-flow oxygen. Verapamil, lithium, methysergide, prednisone, greater occipital nerve blocks and topiramate may be used for prophylaxis. In refractory cases, deep-brain stimulation of the hypothalamus and greater occipital nerve stimulators have been tried in experimental settings.THE DISEASE COURSE OVER A LIFETIME IS UNPREDICTABLE. Some patients have only one period of attacks, while in others the disease evolves from episodic to chronic form.

PMID: 18651939 [PubMed]
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Print the PDF file below. List of current treatments along with evaluations. It's a good tool to use in discussing treatment options with any doc.
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A new (for me) site which is worth your attention: medical literature, films, plus the expected information
about CH.

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Now that you have run your flag up the pole here you'll be exposed to many different approaches to treating Cluster. Resist the urge to try a variety in quick succession for this works to block developing an effective program which works for you. The variety of useful treatments can be confusing until you get some basic knowledge in hand, hence, the value of finding a solid doc to work with.

Sorry you're here! and glad that you are.






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Re: I realised.. its a cluster headache
Reply #2 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 3:08pm
 
Hi John

You may be right, but diagnosing headaches is not a simple task, which is why we strongly suggest that you see a headache specialist to get a definitive diagnosis. There are a large number of headache types, each with their own causes and treatments. Quite a few of them mimic the symptoms seen with CHs, which is why it is vital to get the correct diagnosis.

If it is CH, then you've found the motherlode of info about CH, which will help you with your battle against CH.

Keep reading and asking questions.
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Re: I realised.. its a cluster headache
Reply #3 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 3:40pm
 
What they said! Grin

Seriously, you're young, mine started about 15-16 years of age. Never the KIP 10 killers, but all the other symptoms, red runny eye, runny nose, pain always on the right side behind the eye, I'd only get them Spring and Fall for a couple of months then they'd go away again. Back then, if I felt one coming on and could get to sleep, I could avoid the attack altogether.

Why do I ramble on? (Because I'm old and that's just what old people do!)  Wink I say all that because if you do have cluster headaches, there is a very strong possibility the pain will get worse and the attacks will get more severe as you get into your late teens and early 20's. NOW is the time to get referred to a headache specialist neurologist, work through your symptomology, and get an accurate diagnosis. Don't wait until your first severe cycle, when you're getting hit 2-8 times a day, and you have nothing to treat it with. Then you waste time going to emergency rooms where they don't help you anyways.

Keep reading here and educating yourself, knowledge is never a bad thing, but be VERY careful using the internet to pin down a diagnosis on someting as complicated as your brain. We'll support you and help you all we can, but please consider that headache specialist neuro.

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Re: I realised.. its a cluster headache
Reply #4 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 10:04am
 
You need to consult a properly trained neurologist or headache specialist before you can say for sure what you do or don't have. You sound like cluster, but you need to follow standard diagnosis procedures to make sure you don't have something else. Get yourself an appointment with a specialist of some sort and keep reading up on this site. Hopefully you can find some answers because if it is cluster then things are probably only going to get harder as you get older unless you start taking measures soon.
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Re: I realised.. its a cluster headache
Reply #5 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 11:55am
 
Hi John,  I'd like to add that everyone so far has given you good advice.  You may indeed have CH, but it is NOT a goof idea to diagnose yourself as there are so many headaches types and some have similar symptoms, not to mention your headaches could be something more sinister.

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I usually take medication and sleep in my room if it does


What medication are you taking?  When you are having a headache can you REALLY lay down???

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