i have sat in a doctors office while a surgeon cut a golf ball sized hole in my right cheek, didnt even flinch.  had an open wound with a severed tendon cleaned and scrubbed with alcohol without anesthetic or painkillers.  didnt flinch.  kip 6 and i start to dance.  kip 7 is a salsa.  kip 8 has me on the ground banging my head.  i still have a scar beside my eye where i tried to drill a pocket knife through my temple during a kip 9.  i later passed out as it progressed to a ten.  what is hard to explain to people is that the kip scale is a measure of what it will make you do, unlike the scale with the we have all seen at the doctors office, with the faces that rates how uncomfortable you are.  what is odd is that i have been able to ignore almost all types of pain, but i cant do that with CH.  the beast really does have a captive audience.

Regarding those people who have 8 - 10 KIP CHs, it would seem as though any other kind of pain is paled into almost insignificance, even when that other pain wasn't received during a CH.

It's almost as if the pain receptors have rewired themselves almost exclusively to accept only signals from a CH. Does this sound accurate? In other words, a high KIP CH makes someone not just able to cope better with other types of pain, but actually literally reduces their intensity *physically* on a pain receptor level. For example, Mike said he didn't even feel that 2nd degree burn (and presumably he wasn't having a CH at that time).

For those lucky people who have been 'permanently' (say 2-5 years+) cured from CHs; have they generally found that they don't feel pain generally from other things as much as they did before they had their first CH KIP 8+? And is this because they can cope better with the pain, or is the physical intensity literally lower?

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This would be something close.

Lobster wrote on Jul 27^th, 2011 at 5:18am:

Amen Gardengal.....I totally agree.

The only way I would wear headphones would be if they came with a vice grip during the attack   

Mia