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Oct 26th, 2010 at 12:26pm
 
It's been a while since I was last here and posted. Probably almost 6 years.

I'm an episodice suffer and 5 1/2 weeks into my current full-blown cycle, though I started getting my shadows - or what I call "F-you" headaches about 2 weeks prior.

It usually takes me about a week or so to realize that it's a cluster cycle coming on - deny, deny, deny.

At any rate, I've been aborting with Relpax since mid-late September with a lot of success. Just a lot of pain (tenderness and "cluster-bruising") and exhaustion after.

I'm typically a daytime sufferer, but this cycle has been completely different. Late night, wake me out of a sleep, or first thing - as soon as I open my eyes, attacks. Only a handful have been my normal - 2 hrs after waking up - and they've been the worst.

Food seems to bring them on in the am unless I wait to eat until after an attack. And it aggravates the shadows in the evening.

I haven't had a drop to drink in 2 1/2 weeks. Got fed up a few weeks ago and mixed vicodin and Relpax with a margarita chaser only to remind myself how stupid that is.

I've pretty much given up on the vicodin to help with the shadows also. It's not helping so I haven't taken but two 1/2 tabs in the last week.

I've been to countless doctors in the course of the 15+ years that these have been as bad as they are including neurologists, pain management clinics etc. No more imitrex for me. Doesn't work any more and the Dr. doesn't want to prescribe the injections. I'm cool with that as long as the Relpax keeps working. I can abort an attack within 10-30 minutes. I just wonder if all that I am taking is just making this cycle last that much longer. 5 1/2 weeks is longer than typical. Most last 3-4 weeks, but I did go 8 weeks once... the year that they tried Prednisone, Depakote, Vicodin, you name it...

Anyway, I have yet to try O2, not for lack of wanting, but because I never have the opportunity to try to see if it will work for me. I am not getting hit during office hours and by the time I get to an ER, it'd either be almost over or so bad that I'd take something just to ease the pain. Any suggestions with that one?

Well, that's enough ranting for now. Sorry that I'm back here and that you're all here to read this. I know we're all going through this together which is somehow comforting, but I really wish that this site did not need to exist.

I'm just frustrated, angry and want my life back and I know you will all understand.

Thanks for reading...

~ Katie

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Reply #1 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 2:38pm
 
I have noticed that triptans tend to prolong cycles for me and also lead to more hits during a cycle.  I would definately get some O2 if I were you.
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Reply #2 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 2:43pm
 
Still not sure if I can get an Rx from the Dr. if I don't know if it will work. Does anyone know anything about trying welder's O2? I should be able to pick that up, I would think. I just don't know what I need to do as far as obtaining a regulator and using...
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Reply #3 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 2:46pm
 
E-bay usually has high flow regulators, and I think you can get a good mask form this site.  Just don't tell them you are going to inhale the O2, tell them you are a metal artist or something like that and need an 02 tank for your torch.  I have two tanks at home a large one and a small one, I bought both of them and take them in for an exchange when they are empty.  Airgas or Linde or some one like that should have a shop in your town.
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Reply #4 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 2:55pm
 
Katie C. wrote on Oct 26th, 2010 at 12:26pm:
It's been a while since I was last here and posted. Probably almost 6 years.

I'm an episodice suffer and 5 1/2 weeks into my current full-blown cycle, though I started getting my shadows - or what I call "F-you" headaches about 2 weeks prior.

It usually takes me about a week or so to realize that it's a cluster cycle coming on - deny, deny, deny.

At any rate, I've been aborting with Relpax since mid-late September with a lot of success. Just a lot of pain (tenderness and "cluster-bruising") and exhaustion after.

I'm typically a daytime sufferer, but this cycle has been completely different. Late night, wake me out of a sleep, or first thing - as soon as I open my eyes, attacks. Only a handful have been my normal - 2 hrs after waking up - and they've been the worst.

Food seems to bring them on in the am unless I wait to eat until after an attack. And it aggravates the shadows in the evening.

I haven't had a drop to drink in 2 1/2 weeks. Got fed up a few weeks ago and mixed vicodin and Relpax with a margarita chaser only to remind myself how stupid that is.

I've pretty much given up on the vicodin to help with the shadows also. It's not helping so I haven't taken but two 1/2 tabs in the last week.

I've been to countless doctors in the course of the 15+ years that these have been as bad as they are including neurologists, pain management clinics etc. No more imitrex for me. Doesn't work any more and the Dr. doesn't want to prescribe the injections. I'm cool with that as long as the Relpax keeps working. I can abort an attack within 10-30 minutes. I just wonder if all that I am taking is just making this cycle last that much longer. 5 1/2 weeks is longer than typical. Most last 3-4 weeks, but I did go 8 weeks once... the year that they tried Prednisone, Depakote, Vicodin, you name it...

Anyway, I have yet to try O2, not for lack of wanting, but because I never have the opportunity to try to see if it will work for me. I am not getting hit during office hours and by the time I get to an ER, it'd either be almost over or so bad that I'd take something just to ease the pain. Any suggestions with that one?

Well, that's enough ranting for now. Sorry that I'm back here and that you're all here to read this. I know we're all going through this together which is somehow comforting, but I really wish that this site did not need to exist.

I'm just frustrated, angry and want my life back and I know you will all understand.

Thanks for reading...

~ Katie

Cry

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Reply #5 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 2:57pm
 
Thanks for the advice. There is an Airgas down the road. Can you get this at a Home Depot, too? Or just from one of the gas houses? And I'll start looking at regulators. I'd like to be able to get something relatively small since I will have to carry it with me for daytime attacks. Luckly, I only get hit once a day - the rest of the day is just filled with shadows that never go full-blown.
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Reply #6 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 3:03pm
 
@ Potter - I didn't realize that I has posted last year. I joined the old site back in '04
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Reply #7 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 4:15pm
 
Welcome back, take a second and read the oxygen info tab on the left. It details the different tanks and regulators available from the welding and the medical side.

For oxygen to work, you must get pure 02 to your lungs, no exhaled air, no outside air, and you must get on the oxygen as soon as you feel the tingle starting. That's why it's so important to have the set up at home, as by the time you get to the ER the headache is fully established and the oxygen won't help you.

Have you tried the energy drink route yet?? Rock Star, Red Bull, any containing the combo of caffeine and taurine, chugged at the first sign of a hit it will reduce or even abort an attack for many.

Good luck with getting the 02 set up. 32 years of the beast and NOTHING measures up to the speed and ease with which 02 will kill an attack, as quickly as 6-8 minutes for me!

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Reply #8 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 6:55pm
 
I'm afraid of the caffeine. I really try to limit my caffeine regularly so that I don't get those HA's too. Too much, I get a HA, too little, I get a HA. I suppose it's worth a try though, what the heck.

Hey, also, while I'm thinking about it, does anyone have a recommendation for what to do to get rid of the persistent ache and pain after a CH has passed? My scalp hurts, my forehead hurts, my whole right side generally feels like I smacked my head, the pain goes down my neck and into my upper shoulder. Advil, excedrin, vicodin, nothing takes the edge off and I know I'm just feeding the beast by taking this stuff. Any advice is appreciated. I've never found anything that really works, just lived with it for years until it finally subsides and I'm back to normal for another year.  Embarrassed

I'm so sick of this and I feel like I'm just complaining. You guys understand but I feel like that's all I ever talk about with friends and family. I know that they're concerned, but their first question to me lately is "how are you feeling?" Even when I try to lie, it's no use, they can see it in my face that it hurts.
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Reply #9 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 7:57pm
 
The headache hangover. I never have figured out a way to get rid of those. Fortunately, since getting 02 and imitrex, the slammer followed by a hangover is a rare occurence indeed!

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Reply #10 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 8:29pm
 
Good to know. I've spent the last hour reading about the O2. If an E tank only lasts like 44 minutes, do you keep additional tanks on hand? How do refills of O2 work? I'm really interested and am seriously considering the welding O2 but my husband has reservations since we've never used it before. I wouldn't even know what kind of regulator to get with one. Ugh.
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Reply #11 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 9:09pm
 
I keep 8 E-Tanks in my garage. I'm lucky and thus far insurance is paying for it. When I get down to 3-4 full ones I call APRIA, the next day they show up and swap my empties for fulls. In the past, when I paid out of pocket, it was $4 a month per tank to rent and $12 to refill. I only kept 2 tanks in those days! Then I had to drive to PMS and swap the tanks myself...a bit of a pain!

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Reply #12 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 9:21pm
 
Joe,

Thanks again for the info. We have pretty decent insurance so I'm hoping that it works to get some extra tanks. Do you keep a portable, too? They look pretty small and I don't see how they would last long enough to abort an attack.

You'd think that after this many years, I would have figured this out already. I guess I just wasn't ready and was young and too vain to walk around with O2. Now, I could care less. If they have to see me at work with oxygen, it's a lot less scary than having to see me with the beast.

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Reply #13 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 9:32pm
 
Those soccer chairs that all the soccer mom's carry to games....are just the right size for an E-Tank.  Wink

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Reply #14 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 9:39pm
 
If you can, you should get medical O2, it will make it easier for you. But be sure your Dr. writes the Rx correctly. Print out the link below from one of the top Neurologists in the US, and take it to your Doctor.
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If you end up wanting to use the welders O2 then do a search on this site to get the info you need. Use one of the search engines near the top of this page.

I abort 98% of my CH hits with high flow O2 25lpm+ and a O2pti mask available on this site at the CH.com store.

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Reply #15 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 9:40pm
 
Thanks!

You said that you have been getting these for 32 years. Are you episodic? If so, when do you get them? How long do they last?
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Reply #16 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 10:26pm
 
For the first 25 or so years it was like clock work, 3 month cycles, spring and fall, 2 hits a day, morning and early evening.

Then I hit my mid 40's and they went all over the map, I've had remissions as long as 2 years, and cycles that went 8 months.

The only consistency has been lithium as my prevent, and oxygen as my abortive.

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Reply #17 - Oct 27th, 2010 at 7:18am
 
Tried the Red Bull this morning as an attack hit while driving to work. Between the drink and placing some tough pressure on a pressure point in my left hand, it was gone in 10 minutes. No drugs, no pain killers and I'm not left with the typical exhaustion that even a 10 minute attack leaves me with, nor the medicated/drowsy feeling from Relpax.

Thanks again for the tip. We'll see how the rest of the day goes.

@Joe - sorry to hear about they way your HA's are. I can't imagine having them come on whenever they feel like it. Mine have only ever changed from spring to fall, but I've never gotten more than one cycle per year. I feel, as I read others stories and posts, that I am "lucky" as I don't deal with multiple attacks on a regular basis and they usually don't last more than 3-4 weeks.
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Reply #18 - Oct 27th, 2010 at 10:02am
 
Well, I think that the Red Bull just postponed the inevitible. Got hit a little after 9 a.m. but nothing that 40mg of Relpax couldn't beat in 10 minutes. I hate putting more of this stuff into my system. I'm going to try to see if the Dr. will just prescribe the O2. Don't know where else to turn.
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Reply #19 - Oct 27th, 2010 at 11:27am
 
Hi Katie. You're doing a good job asking the right questions. And the fine folks here are doing a great job providing their insights gained through experience. I can't add much, except to say these things are really to tough to beat down once and for all. Pred tapers, migranol sprays, nose sprays, exercise, heat or cold...these are all things that work for some sometimes, but not for everyone all times. And the worst time is what you just went through: a wahooo when the Red Bull worked, and then the beast came roaring back. We get it. We been there, bought the t-shirt and everything. Keep reading beyond this thread. There's more to try and hope maintains with things that could work tho not tried yet. Hang in there, Katie. God bless. lance
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For the "afterglow" headache, I usually use excedrin.
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Reply #21 - Oct 28th, 2010 at 7:53pm
 
Got a last-minute appt. with a neurologist at the Cleveland Clinic Headache Center - so now I don't have to wait till Dec. Got an Rx for verapamil, going to start on melatonin, got an occipital nerve block, and an Rx for O2!!! They came out this evening to deliver an "M" tank, 4 "E" tanks, and 2 non-rebreather masks. The Rx was written up right, and I have a 10-15lpm regulator.

Hopefully, we are on the right track. I still have yet to see if the O2 will work as I have never tried it so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Red Bull was not a good idea after all. Figured I'd try it again today and it only holds them off for 2 1/2 hours at most. Tried it twice and ended up fighting off 3 attacks. Finally gave in to Relpax when the 3 one hit just 5 hours after the 1st. Oh well, it was worth a try.

Wish me luck!

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Reply #22 - Oct 28th, 2010 at 8:06pm
 
Katie C. wrote on Oct 28th, 2010 at 7:53pm:
Got a last-minute appt. with a neurologist at the Cleveland Clinic Headache Center - so now I don't have to wait till Dec. Got an Rx for verapamil, going to start on melatonin, got an occipital nerve block, and an Rx for O2!!! They came out this evening to deliver an "M" tank, 4 "E" tanks, and 2 non-rebreather masks. The Rx was written up right, and I have a 10-15lpm regulator.

Hopefully, we are on the right track. I still have yet to see if the O2 will work as I have never tried it so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Red Bull was not a good idea after all. Figured I'd try it again today and it only holds them off for 2 1/2 hours at most. Tried it twice and ended up fighting off 3 attacks. Finally gave in to Relpax when the 3 one hit just 5 hours after the 1st. Oh well, it was worth a try.

Wish me luck!

Have a good night to all and PF days ahead.

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Reply #23 - Oct 28th, 2010 at 8:12pm
 
No kidding. And he said that I can work with the neuro that I originally had the appt with in Dec since they all work as part of the same team, and that way I won't have to drive almost an hour to get to the one that I saw today.  Smiley Grin Smiley
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Reply #24 - Oct 28th, 2010 at 11:56pm
 
Katie that is fantastic news!! Potter's right, damn, they gave you the full broadside salvo there!!! Smiley

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