Yeah, seriously fed up with the headaches is where most of us live, too. It's not such a bad place, though. It gets the dander up and puts us in a fightin' mood, all of which is better than depression. Keep working for the O2-it is the best universal abortive out there. And there's other stuff. Read archives, past threads, everything, and make a list of whatever you haven't tried that has worked for someone. And give clusterbusters a looksee. Who knows? Anyway, thanks for keeping us up to date. Keep the faith. lance