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Apr 8th, 2010 at 10:17am
 
I have spent alot of hours doing research here and i agree with some things and i also disagree with some.But all i want to say is the people that can say oxycontin does not work,well you are wrong!!! My DR told me to do this and it worked!!! When i did this i was in my peak and was not on any preventatives.

Take 2 at bedtime and you will not wake up with any pain.These 2 pills will last for 8 hrs.Therefore if a headache kicks in the Oxycontin is already working and you are good to go. Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #1 - Apr 8th, 2010 at 10:25am
 
And, if you keep doing it, you can find yourself needing more and more, until one day you wake up in a dumpster with your car keys up your wazoo.

Highly, highly addictive, my friend. A long-acting triptan like Amerge or Frova will do the same thing without opiates.
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Reply #2 - Apr 8th, 2010 at 10:31am
 
Can anybody please post that thread with the one member here with that horror story about getting addicted to opiates to mask his cluster pain.  I need to save that somewhere so I can post it on this kind of thread.
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Reply #3 - Apr 8th, 2010 at 10:48am
 
I certainly will not argue with you. I would encourage you to do more research on your own as to the mechanisms of our pain, the preventative treatments and abortive treatments available. Having done that, I'm hoping you realize how critical it is for you to locate a headache specialist.

I have no doubt oxycontin will relieve pain, I'm deeply concerned about the high probability for addiction with a condition like ours which is hardly a "one and done" short term condition.

Please don't let this turn into a fight where one side has to be right and one side has to be wrong. A sense of pride gets aroused at that point and no matter what one learns they can never change their opinion. This is too big an issue to be reduced to an internet pissing match.

Please, you owe it to yourself to get educated and do what's best for you.

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Reply #4 - Apr 8th, 2010 at 11:15am
 
Brew wrote on Apr 8th, 2010 at 10:25am:
And, if you keep doing it, you can find yourself needing more and more, until one day you wake up in a dumpster with your car keys up your wazoo.

Highly, highly addictive, my friend. A long-acting triptan like Amerge or Frova will do the same thing without opiates.

   That happened to me when I was being a junkie.  Thank god I didn't own a car.

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Reply #5 - Apr 8th, 2010 at 11:16am
 
Joe is quite on track: with Cluster we are working with a disorder which may be with us for decades. There are enough safe, effective meds to control an attack and prevent them, that the risk of long term use of any addictive med is very rarely needed.

Even 40-years go, Dr. Seymour Diamond, a leading headche doc at that time, admitted using IV morphine in desperate sitations--but even in that age of almost no alternatives, he would not yield to long term use.

The best medical practice is aimed at: long term prevention of attacks and safe short term aborting of attacks (by direct treatment of the source of the pain). Pain meds do neither.
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Reply #6 - Apr 8th, 2010 at 11:17am
 
See you in detox.

I'll be the guy on the other side of the desk.
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Reply #7 - Apr 8th, 2010 at 11:38am
 
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This what you're looking for, Chad?

It's one hell of a story!
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Reply #8 - Apr 8th, 2010 at 11:59am
 
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This what you're looking for, Chad?

It's one hell of a story!
Thanks Jackie, that's it alright.

I think our other Chad needs to read this.

This story touched me eventhough I have never done opiates to treat clusters.  I think any clusterhead using opiates should read this and let it sink in.


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Reply #9 - Apr 8th, 2010 at 4:39pm
 
Chad from MN, why would you take something so harmful and addictive and deadly, when you can take advantage of the wealth of medical knowledge from those of us here who understand your CH pain moreso than anybody else?

You might consider looking at the link I posted below, displaying doctors who are experienced treating those with CH's and have been recommended by CH patients. 
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Reply #10 - Apr 10th, 2010 at 4:59am
 
Ok first let me say that everyone is different the way they fight the clusters this is my story and Remember its just my way of dealing with the chronic clusters pain I have ........................................................
Ok 55 year old man had clusters (chronic since Nov. 1999) (before 17 years fall and spring only). First I must say after 67 different meds in many combo's for 16 years. Even had my trigeminal nerve cut at the Mayo Clinc  in Minn. in May of 2002 (which I got a little over 4 months releif only to come back full force).
Ok this is what I take for my clusters right now since 2006. I wear a fentanyl 75/mcg/hr and for the bad times I take a 10mg morphine shot. I am only allowed 12 per month and can take 3 in a 24 hour period (which has happened about 5 times since 2006). I get these shots refilled about every 45 to 50 days. So I dont go every 30 days & refill it to have more here than I really need. Now PLEASE let me say that EVERYONE is different how they get thur the pain. I have two  O2 tanks with proper equipment but sorry to say dont work for me BUT there are so many people is has worked well for.  And I have read about Svenn's bad dealing with the morphine. My wife is a CNA and trust me she would tell me if I was hooked on it. Before the pain patch and shots I used stadol and I abused that med loved the rush it gave me so after 3-4 months I took myself off it cause I know it was wrong. I also take meds for depression and bipolar disorder. Plus meds for acid reflex and high cholesterol. I am not telling everyone about my meds I take to stir up any trouble just thought I would let everyone know that its worked for me. 15 to 20 minutes after a shot I can do anything I need to do like drive , mow the yard , house work etc without any problems. Well thats all I have to say about this.
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Reply #11 - Apr 10th, 2010 at 5:24pm
 
Chad from MN,

I'll not argue with you either.  YOu are a big boy now, and you have to make your own decisions.  I'm just going to give you a bit of my experience, although minor compared to Svenn's. 

When I was diagnosed over 30 years ago nobody knew anything about CH.  All my Dr knew is that his sister had them and they hurt like a son of a gun.  He promptly put me on Fiorinal, and another drug that was a derivitive of morphine, but supposedly not as addictive.  I say supposedly.  At the time I was working in a textile bleachery, operating equipment that required paying close attention.  There were times I would drive myself to work so stoned I couldn't read my own time card.  It was rather embarressing to have to have someone else confirm it was mine, so I memorized what slot it was in.  It didn't really kill the pain, I just didn't care!  It is by the grace of God I'm still alive, and I mean that literally.  Why mi wife didn't leave me I have no idea, because I was not worth living with.  Was I addicted?  I don't know, but I was for sure dependent on them, and I had ratcheted up the amount I needed to get the little relief I did get.  Realizing what I was getting in to I quit using them totally cold turkey.  It was HARD to do, but I knew I had to do it.  Interestingly the cycle ended about the same time.  Coincidence?  I don't know, but I do know I have used Narcs or Opiates only a handful of times since then, and then only ONE per incidence, including after a root-canal without anaesthetic, a broken ankle, a broken toe, and more.

You make your own decision.  It is your life, and you have to lead it the way you think best, but I would think about it long and hard when not under the influence of the Oxy.

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Reply #12 - Apr 10th, 2010 at 8:05pm
 
I had a girlfriend from 2001 to 2004 that had degenerative arthritis of the neck and spine.  She was prescribed Oxycontin.  Take 1 for pain, became 2.  Two became 3.  Time for a 30 day refill after only 3 weeks.  And so on.  She became not only dependant, but also addicted.  Within 4 months time, her life was opposite of near perfect it once was, despite her neck/spine.  She became a walking zombie when she had enough energy to get out of bed.  She had gotten fired from her job that she used to have an absolute passion for, Child Protective Services intervened due to her not getting her daughter to school/feeding meals/grooming/etc. resulting in her 8 yr old daughter taken from her due to parental neglect, she lost all care in the world to get out of bed and try to enjoy things in her life she was passionate about, not interested in opening the blinds to enjoy sunshine, etc.  She went from a beauty school nail technician with a very loyal clientele of 17 yrs who all left her because she didn't show up for work, went from a fashion diva to not caring if she shaved her legs/arms and barely took a bath, she became a mess.  I called her mother out of state to intervene as I had had enough.  "You can't help somebody who does not want to help themself".  Her mother flew across country and checked her into rehab and I never heard from her again.  Too bad because this was a woman I loved very much, even was considering marriage.  Oxycontin is extremely addictive and destroys lives!   Lips Sealed
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Reply #13 - Apr 10th, 2010 at 9:38pm
 
I, personally thank those of you who have shared your horror stories and negative feelings towards these  kinds of drugs.  I know it wasn't easy for Svenn or for you Jerry.

I find it VERY interesting that Chad chose to put a smiley face in front of his entire thread. 

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Reply #14 - Apr 11th, 2010 at 4:14pm
 
In 2003, my neighbor across the street had surgery on his spine.  He was prescribed Oxycontin.  His wife reported that over a short 6 weeks time he had become dependent on the pills, as his tolerance level was requiring more pills to reduce the pain, as compared to less amount of pills that previously worked. 

One morning I walked outside my house to go to work and noticed the ambulance, police and fire department all parked across the street.  John Graham, age 37, father of 3 small children, husband, brother, son, etc...my neighbor had overdosed on Oxycontin and died that day.

The family story is that because he was such a large man and because his tolerance/dependence levels changed; he thought it would be ok to take 1 extra pill on occasion...that occasion was the morning I just described, which ended his life! Lips Sealed
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Reply #15 - Apr 11th, 2010 at 10:34pm
 
Well Well.Its not all about getting addicted, The BUZZ yea i can see how it is addicting but no.Im a very strong mined german and no i would not let that happen!!!.I have been through alot and i know what im doing!!!! Beleive me and i respect all the support but no i will never get hooked like Sven did!!!!!!!!! I just do it while im in my phase. Thats All

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Reply #16 - Apr 11th, 2010 at 10:55pm
 
Chad from mn wrote on Apr 11th, 2010 at 10:34pm:
Well Well.Its not all about getting addicted, The BUZZ yea i can see how it is addicting but no.Im a very strong mined german and no i would not let that happen!!!.I have been through alot and i know what im doing!!!! Beleive me and i respect all the support but no i will never get hooked like Sven did!!!!!!!!! I just do it while im in my phase. Thats All

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My former girlfriend was also a strong minded German!  And my dead neighbor was a strong minded German also!!
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Reply #17 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 12:06am
 
Chad, my friend, you have no idea how many times I heard a line like that while I worked with the Pacific Garden Mission in Chicago for 7 years.  It always happens to the other guy.

Hoping for the best my friend.

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Reply #18 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 6:58am
 
Chad in MN,
Please think long and hard before relying on Oxy to control your pain. I totally understand the desire to find something ANYTHING that will bring relief but I just dont know if the risks are worth it.
I have seen that drug destroy many good, strong people. None of who thought they would become dependent. Be very careful.
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Reply #19 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 7:41am
 
Those who take opiates are completely missing the point here.  Yes, opiates will definitely take care of the pain, but when the pain comes back you take another dose and then the pain comes back again and guess what, you take another dose.  Before you know it you need twice that dose to do that same thing it did in the beginning and yada, yada, yada. 
Get the point here.  That's called addiction and you can deny it all you want, but you're setting yourself up for disaster.  The triptans drugs alone attack the
problem without the buzz.  There is nothing better than aborting a hit with 2mg worth of shot in less than 5 minutes or even better than that, sucking down some high flow oxygen where you don't need to take in ANY drugs at all.  If you take an opiate at onset (unless you're injecting), you will NOT get relief as fast as those two I just mentioned.
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Reply #20 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 9:46am
 
Whatever works to help one's pain is what will be supported around here.

People are just looking out for you not developing further pain in another area of life.

the reality is when one deals with opiates, you will at some point develop a dependence.
It has nothing to do with being strong minded or not.
It has to do with our body's metabolism, biochemistry and the plain simple science dealing with habituation.
you will be come dependent. This doesn't mean you are a junkie or a bad person.

For the vast majority of people there are more effective treatments with less damaging side effects.

For people like Terry and some others not named in the thread, there is few alternatives left.

Just make an informed decision and research but try not to act hastily.

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Reply #21 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 10:18am
 
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no i would not let that happen!!!.I have been through alot and i know what im doing!!!! Beleive me and i respect all the support but no i will never get hooked like Sven did!!!!!!!!! I just do it while im in my phase. Thats All


Classic statements from those who eventually experianced the wonders of detox.
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Svenn is the most stubborn, strong-minded Norwegian I've ever met.  He kept telling himself he was fine til he could no longer hide it from even himself.
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Reply #23 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 11:32am
 
Gang! (ref. #15)  In 30-yrs of being a mental health counselor, I can never recall such a clear, sharp statement of denial which confirms, in my mind, a loss of capacity for judgment and, therefore, capacity for self-protection.

Bottom line: might as well stop your efforts to convince him.
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Reply #24 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 12:26pm
 
In my opinion, this thread was started similar to a TROLL for attention.  The reason why I write this is because Chad from MN is NOT ignorant, he knows better as he has written in some of his recent previous post replies to others. 

I looked at this Newbies' "last 40 recent posts" (less than 30) from his profile and he has replied to others stating that his Verapamil works great!  Redbull actually killed an attack!  and oxygen is wonderful.  Hmmmm.  If all this is working, why the Oxycontin interest?

Here's why...in many of his posts, he makes references to illegal drug terms with attached smiley faces....crack rock, snorting pills, smoking pills, cooking and shooting.  Form your own conclusion, yet? 

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