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anthony g CH.com Old Timer Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 318 manhattan nyc Gender:	green tea Jan 19^th, 2010 at 8:27am hey all I went to a new neuro the other day and he told me to totally stay away fron green tea? He was pretty convincing that it was a total trigger! anyone hear this? anthony
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monty CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Posts: 1056 The Swamp, Florida	Re: green tea Reply #1 - Jan 19^th, 2010 at 9:27am No real research I am aware of, except for a Japanese study that found that migraneurs consumed more green tea than the average person, and that the high caffeine intake might make them more susceptible to neurovascular headaches.
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Grinner62 CH.com Veteran Offline Posts: 131 Wichita Falls,Texas Gender:	Re: green tea Reply #2 - Jan 19^th, 2010 at 9:30am T Ow!!! Hey, someone has to be the smart ass. Why not me?
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Iddy CH.com Alumnus Offline Smile Posts: 486 Toronto,Canada Gender:	Re: green tea Reply #3 - Jan 19^th, 2010 at 12:06pm Last Thursday I was at my MD's appointment. He carries a Palm pilot/BlackBerry whatever? and it is used strictly for drug interactions. The information on it is based out of the United States and when we were looking up Verapamil it said one of the things to avoid while on Verapamil was Green Tea!! Go figure?
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Reply #4 - Jan 19^th, 2010 at 2:45pm

So Anthony g, I wonder if your doc said that because you're on Verapamil?

I wasn't on the Verap during my last cycle. Drank green tea daily. Not a trrigger for me.

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CH according to Bejeeber:

Strictly relying on doctors for CH treatment is often a prescription that will keep you in a whole lot of PAIN. Doctors are WAY behind in many respects, and they are usually completely unaware of the benefits of high flow 100% O2.

There are lots of effective treatments documented at this site. Take matters into your own hands, learn as much as you can here and at clusterbusters.com, put it into practice, then tell this CH beast Jeebs said hello right before you bash him so hard with a swift uppercut knockout punch that his stupid horns go flinging right off.

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anthony g CH.com Old Timer Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 318 manhattan nyc Gender:	Re: green tea Reply #5 - Jan 19^th, 2010 at 3:01pm i dunno why really, but didnt like him so much honestly! been on the search for a new one! have an app next tues with a new one so we will see!
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Callico CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Author of "Stranded at Romson's Lodge Posts: 4916 Aurora IL Gender:	Re: green tea Reply #6 - Jan 21^st, 2010 at 5:28pm Green Tea, Black Tea, Oolong tea, Mixed teas, makes no difference to me. Sometimes I use it instead of coffee, but the caffeine content is lower so it doesn't work as well, but is easier on the stomach. Wish it was a trigger so I could get rid of the stupid things. Jerry
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Joni CH.com Old Timer Offline Knowledge is Power Posts: 476 Gender:	Re: green tea Reply #7 - Jan 21^st, 2010 at 5:35pm Any tea is a trigger for me while I am in cycle.
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Reply #8 - Jan 23^rd, 2010 at 1:30am

green tea seemed to trigger one a few weeks back for me, and held one today at a low roar. it hasn't felt very good to drink it for most of my cycle this time. just a feeling. i am normally a tea drinker, but coffee feels way better in my cycle lately and so does coca cola.

my general rule on triggers and foods is if it makes you feel good eat it or drink it. on the other end, even though i usually enjoy a few beers i don't even want one during my cycle, it doesn't even sound good. cravings can guide me through the food and drink choices. can't stop eating oranges, but an apple got me the other day.

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dianesheadaches CH.com Newbie Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 1	Re: green tea Reply #9 - Feb 5^th, 2010 at 10:40am I'm trying to give up caffeine which has had me hooked for 30 years or more! I started a blog after day 6 has me thinking maybe ..just maybe this is the answer. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or
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Reply #10 - Feb 5^th, 2010 at 10:56am

dianesheadaches wrote on Feb 5^th, 2010 at 10:40am:

I'm trying to give up caffeine which has had me hooked for 30 years or more! I started a blog after day 6 has me thinking maybe ..just maybe this is the answer.
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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: green tea Reply #11 - Feb 5^th, 2010 at 12:02pm Caffeine, like opium, psilocybin, LSA, and a host of other substances, is a gift from God. We can use it for good, or we can choose to abuse it.
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NancyB CH.com Veteran Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 169	Re: green tea Reply #12 - Feb 5^th, 2010 at 12:48pm Gotta' say about the only time I drink caffeine is when I have a headache - whether it's a ch or not. Does bad things to me the rest of the time.
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sandie99 CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Wish it, dream it, do it - inspite the pain! Posts: 11975 Finland Gender:	Re: green tea Reply #13 - Feb 6^th, 2010 at 8:24am Well, when I drink something warm, it's tea. Green tea is my fave and ch wise it has only helped - when I had green tea with ginger in it. But we're all different. Green tea with ginger helps me with shadows. Sanna
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kidfam CH.com Newbie Offline Posts: 5 x0\|Wetumpka\|USA\|\|0\|0\|AL,Alabama Gender:	Re: green tea Reply #14 - Apr 28^th, 2010 at 4:15pm Well the wife gave me a glass last night and I had a really worse night than others lately. Perhaps the green tea?
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Reply #15 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 10:17am

About the caffeine, my Doc insisted i quit. I used drank a lot of coffee
in the morning, along with pop during day and evening. That was last June. I quit altogether.
The last month I have drank some caffeinated drinks and I have shadows. I've posted it before, I'm curious if energy drinks, coffee are just adding fuel to the fire in The Long Term....

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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: green tea Reply #16 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 10:24am JHK07 wrote on Apr 29^th, 2010 at 10:17am: I've posted it before, I'm curious if energy drinks, coffee are just adding fuel to the fire in The Long Term.... In a word, no. If you have CH and your doctor told you to quit caffeine, your doctor is a schmuck.
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Reply #17 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 2:03pm

One doctor say stay away from tea
the other stay away from coffee

i say they should both stay away from coffee and tea.
cheesus cake! these things are coming in waves all these years from our friends,relatives etc but they are not doctors and they are at least trying to help out
of love.But they are Doctors can't they do something better than that?!

wait i now suddenly understand
they love us too Cheesy

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Oh come on!it's just water.It can't be that bad!

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Re: green tea
Reply #18 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 2:43pm

Brew wrote on Apr 29^th, 2010 at 10:24am:

JHK07 wrote on Apr 29^th, 2010 at 10:17am:

I've posted it before, I'm curious if energy drinks, coffee are just adding fuel to the fire in The Long Term....

In a word, no.

If you have CH and your doctor told you to quit caffeine, your doctor is a schmuck.

Schmuck? I have had 1 CH since That visit last June. I visit this site often..... How about another thread about an energy drink? coffee? tea?
I don"t understand the VASCO whatever it is that caffeine has on our blood vessels. Yes I have read it may help abort relieve an attack......

Is it possible that an attack could be a withdrawl or lack of caffeine our body has.... hence we suck down a energy drink, strong coffee; thus creating Fuel For The Fire.

I realize this does not apply to all.

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Reply #19 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 3:10pm

JHK07 wrote on Apr 29^th, 2010 at 2:43pm:

In a word, no.

If you have CH and your doctor told you to quit caffeine, your doctor is a schmuck.Schmuck? I have had 1 CH since That visit last June. I visit this site often..... How about another thread about an energy drink? coffee? tea?
I don"t understand the VASCO whatever it is that caffeine has on our blood vessels. Yes I have read it may help abort relieve an attack......

Is it possible that an attack could be a withdrawl or lack of caffeine our body has.... hence we suck down a energy drink, strong coffee; thus creating Fuel For The Fire.

I realize this does not apply to all.

I'm very happy that you have only experienced one attack since last June.

Very simply, in a CH attack, one of the arteries in our head dilates and puts tremendous pressure on the trigeminal nerve. It is an occurrence of vasodilation (expansion). Caffeine is a vasoconstrictor (as is blood which is super saturated with O2).

For a doctor to suggest eliminating a vasoconstrictor from someone who suffers an affliction caused by vasodilation puts him in the schmuck category.

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cgrill CH.com Newbie Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 4	Re: green tea Reply #20 - May 1^st, 2010 at 3:34am i drink green tea all the time and it has never seemed to affect me.
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