Nope. Not me.

Oh, and please refer to yourself as a disc jockey. There's only one DJ around here.

Well it doesn't seem too surprising I suppose, although I'm not aware of exactly what Ecstasy has in common with LSD, Mushrooms, etc., and what the differences might be.

I wonder if it might be worth it for you to try Rivea Corymbosa seeds (AKA RC seeds)?

The advantages being they're legal to purchase, easy to consume (no growing!). entirely natural with centuries long history of use by indigienous peoples, and therapeutic doses for CH are non-hallucinogenic, often entirely side effect free. Large doses are reputedly hallucinogenic.

Then, if you haven't researched it already, there's the O2 etc. that you can find out about here that could also potentially kill a whole lot of those CH attacks of yours...

Last I heard, when the persistence of Rick Doblin of MAPS with Michael Mithoefer and good words from Charles Grob helped reveal the experimental errors of George Ricaurte's negative studies on the drug, it got FDA approved about 2004 for clinical trials to post-traumatic stress disorder patients coping with anxiety, so it may have some future.  By 2006 it was said to show a beneficial effect.

I refuse to even consider it.  A friend had a stroke from it.  MDMA if abused can seriously cause some brain damage.

Chad wrote on Oct 18^th, 2009 at 8:00am:


Well wouldn't LSD, Psylocybin be cause to serious damage too if used in super-ammounts? Or street-ammounts?

True, they are most natural.

Chad wrote on Oct 18^th, 2009 at 8:00am:


MDMA has been proven to have no dangerous side effects. As far as I know. Did your friend do other illegal drugs as well?.

DannyV wrote on Apr 1^st, 2012 at 2:03pm:


I am curious about your source of information. In my line of work I have seen many deaths that resulted from MDMA use.

If the seizures don't kill them, then they tend to die as a result of either DIC, hyponatremia, rhabdo and resultant renal failure or intracranial hemorrhage from the hypertension.

There is no safe amount of this drug and considering there are other, much safer alternatives ( RC seeds, mushrooms) I think it's an incredibly risky treatment option.

DannyV wrote on Apr 1^st, 2012 at 2:03pm:



It can drain your spinal fluid. So can Topamax. Very bad for me like me with spinal injuries. Plus the let down/recovery period is too long. Good luck though.

Hello,

My friend says when he does his shrooms he always feels a lil loopie for about a week afterwards. Then after that he is fine. Also he says he knows when its time to do them again, he said he gets lil flashback feelings within 3-4 months after taking them, Sometimes longer.

Outside of that he said he feels like he is in the best shape of his life.

Coach Bill

Darkfire--the problem with those studies that you posted is that they really don't say much about normal human use...

The first study, about depleted serotonin levels, is best explained here-

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Some highlights--"there is some suggestive evidence that there are serotonin reductions in a group of people who have taken MDMA an average of 90 or more times"

"There is no evidence that there are serotonin reductions in groups of people who have taken MDMA fewer than 90 times."

"An unpublished MAPS-funded study by Ricaurte, in which oral 2.5 mg/kg MDMA was administered to non-human primates once every two weeks for four months (8 administrations) showed no effect in levels of serotonin"

The second link says straight out " Monkeys were administered toxic doses of MDMA; two weeks later, the animals were lightly anesthetized with ether and CSF was obtained by means of cervical puncture"

A toxic dose is a toxic dose, you would expect bad things to happen...

I agree wholeheartedly that MDMA if abused can seriously cause some brain damage.  The difference is between abuse and use.  Britain's own head of the Government's drug advisory body(or at least he was--until he got fired for saying this), Proffesor David Nutt said that Ecstacy was no more dangerous than horseback riding.  I consider Tylenol to be a much more toxic substance with a greater risk of death and irreparable bodily harm. (accounts for more than 56,000 emergency room visits, 2,600 hospitalizations, and an estimated 458 deaths due to acute liver failure each year)

I have never tried MDMA for my clusters, but I would not be surprised if it worked as a pretty damn good abortive.  (not so sure about long term or "busting" a cluster...but it wouldn't really surprise me either...)  Amphetamines in general have been shown in some folks to be effective (Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to or ) and the class of drugs that Ecstasy is in (Phenethylamines) have an amphetamine aspect of it, that's why a lot of ravers use it, because it is a hallucinogen that also gives them a good bit of energy.  This amphetamine side is also what gives it the biggest risk, overheating.  Luckily, you can smoke weed to counteract the effect (assuming it's not going to trigger a cluster for you ) --

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I'm betting the combo of amphetamine and serotonin rush would kick a clusters ass, but I can't say how you would feel the next day...Although out of the few reports we've gotten from people, I have never heard anyone say that it made their clusters in any way worse.

All that is all great info, but there is a majorly good point being made in that you really don't know what you are getting when you buy the stuff...I don't think it's impossible to get real MDMA, but I'm betting you really have to know someone.

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Last thought--what Kevin_M was saying about George Ricaurte's negative studies...The story behind it was that Ricaurte who was at one time a respected researcher (and NIDA crony) did studies claiming brain damage, and after Charles Grof and MAPS confronted all sorts of inaccuracies with the study and had to pull out freedom of information act BS on him it was finally brought to light that a vial was labeled wrong and he "accidentely" gave monkeys huge doses of Methemphetamine instead of MDMA (oops!)  Many researchers have pointed out that even if this was not intentional (many many researchers feel otherwise) Ricaurte ignored many previous studies that showed completely different results, not to mention the fact that Monkeys were keeling over dead at doses that didn't make sense for MDMA--and then went on to publish his BS all over the place. 

More fun reading on this subject here--

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-Ricardo

I have. Episodic, but took MDMA during cycles. I have to admit I did get away with a few days headache-free.

Not sure if it is a viable long-term solution; but quite an interesting point.