It's been awhile so I thought I'd check in. Michael's pretty despondent; Doesn't want to take the r.c. seeds anymore and his Dr. won't give him any more methadone than he's giving him now. After the first of the year I think he's going to look around for a Dr. who'll give him whatever he wants. Or maybe he's just blowin' smoke. Who knows. I told him he's a grown man and can do whatever he wants. I'd have killed myself a long time b4 now if I were him. He's not there yet, but a man's got to find his own way in this life. All I can do is be there for him.

bonkers wrote on Oct 27^th, 2009 at 10:03pm:


What of the oxygen script?

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Being nothing to do with ego on your part, I was wondering if it might cross consideration, due to the last quote included above, that a point could be conceived, as a thought, whereas the drug is talking for Michael.

I just hope you guys can find some LSD or psylocibin, since the LSD provided the most dramatic relief so far.

Sounds like a very critical situation in a screwed up world where a substance that could bring relief is just out of reach.

I suppose you've looked into whether there would be any fields around where psylocibin grows and could be picked?

I know thats a real long shot - it may not be the right time of year, or right climate in general there, and then if someone could tell you where the fields are, they could probably tell you where to get some without having to pick it yourself. Last I heard, they grow on cow poo (???)

The first time I picked in 74 I had only the knowledge that I had gleaned from pictures and books.  Cubensis is a fairly easy species to ID.  To start with, in my experience, all the fields I have picked were dairy farm pastures ( if the cows ain't got udders then no shrooms ).  I believe this is because dairy cattle have grain in their diet but not sure?

Of the 3 or 4 types I have found growing on cow patties, only the magic ones looked anything like the pics I had.  And finally, as far as I know, sillycybin's are the only ones that stain cyan blue when you crush the flesh of the cap or stipe as a result of oxidation.

The biggest problem I always had was finding fields that you could gain access to without being observed......I ended up almost 150 miles from where I began searching the first time I picked....LOL

Dallas Denny

bonkers wrote on Nov 11^th, 2009 at 4:06am:


Bonkers there are many other ergolines in the seeds that may be beneficial to CH. In addition to the LSA. These may or may not remain in the seeds following soaking
If its just the liquid used then try consuming the seed sludge as well. Tastes like dirt but if it helps.
I generally disove the whole crushed seeds direct under my tonque then wash down the remainder to soak.

I grind up 100 rc seeds in a pepper mill and add it to about 4 oz of water with a dash of fresh squeezed lemon juice to extract all of the LSA.  Cover it and let it soak for 1-2 hours and then just down the whole thing, sludge and all.

Chad wrote on Nov 12^th, 2009 at 9:22am:


I got the idea from Pink's Mushroom Tea recipe off the Cluster Busters site.  The idea is that the lemon juice separates the psilocybin from the mushroom more rapidly.  I figure that you could infer it would be the same for the LSA in the seeds. 

bonkers wrote on Nov 12^th, 2009 at 12:29am:

That was a poor communication by me.

I first crush or powder the seeds with either a pliers or coffee grinder and then dissolve sublinqually under the tonque.
The rate of absorption is maybe 5 minutes, acts far more rapidly and direct to the bloodstream and brain in a similar timeframe.
The unabsorbed bits are swallowed after the majority of the powdered seeds are dissoved.

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Well, the guy from oxygen supply just delivered our setup. Total junk. No way to get a seal, tiny bag etc. Regulator does max out at 15 LPM, but what I'm hearing from most of you is that more is better. There is a kindly member of this forum living near me who, I believe, when time permits, will show us his setup and how he uses it. We should be able to order a high quality mask next week. At this point, that's the weakest link. We'll see how it works with the regulator we have and go from there. We appreciate all the help. Thanks a lot. We'll keep you posted. Mike and Ron. (Bonkers was (is) a nickname we had for Michael when he was a child.)

bonkers wrote on Nov 13^th, 2009 at 3:47pm:


Well heck then, I've seen posted just excluding the whole bag and mask and inhaling straight from the hose if necessary.  15Lpm has helped many.  Could give'r a go likewise until better can be obtained.    

I apologize for not being available these last couple of days. Michael's acting all weird, or wired, or I don't know what, but very strange. Like he's taken some other drug, but he denies it. Not like the headache's are particularly bad; It's almost as if he isn't having headaches at all. He's walking all goofy but says he sprained his ankle. His speech is sorta incoherent but he doesn't notice it. He's doing all sorts of odd things, like leaving a package of hamburger in the bathroom or a bag of clothes in the living room and then denying it. He left the refrigerator door open, not ajar, but wide open. Then he denies doing these things. He isn't sleeping much; I'm sure that's part of it. Big rashes under his arms and between his legs. Always thirsty. He went on a hike with one of his friends Sunday morning and may have picked up something he's allergic to. I'm keeping a very close eye on him. I slept on the couch last night and made sure he kept his door open so I'd know if anything odd happened. We see his doctor Thursday but I'm ready to take him to the E.R. b4 then if necessary. We can't get the oxygen setup we've got to work adequately so next week I should be able to buy a good mask. I did try taping up the open hole in the mask, cutting off the totally inadequate "rebreather" bag supplied and taping on a kitchen trash bag. Can't get a good seal on the mask. Can't keep the trash bag open. We'll make adjustments and additions/subtractions till we get it right. We're going to try another big dose of seeds tonight or tomorrow. Michael has a pretty weak stomach and threw up some of the last big dose. Anyone know how to "dress up" the taste so it's not quite so nauseating? Don't worry much about us. We're both hanging in. Maybe crossing fingers wouldn't hurt. It's impolite and unappreciative of me to have been so unresponsive to all you very kind people. I apologize and promise to keep up.

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