bonkers wrote on Oct 24^th, 2009 at 11:42pm:


Hey, if you and Michael are happy with the guy, thats cool. Its tough to find someone you can trust and that will work with you.
There are plenty of MDs that have put their stamp of approval on 02 therapy for clusters.
And, yep its fine (and good) that he wants to check into it before prescribing it, but then to want to *mail* the script? Maybe he can research the latest document sending techniques......fax or email.

Maybe its just me and my mood. Don't mind me.
Sorry but I guess the older I get, the less patience I have.

Hope things continue to go well,
Bob

bonkers wrote on Oct 25^th, 2009 at 2:01am:


Theres a lot of us with that same grin Bonkers.

Great to see the positive results.

bonkers wrote on Oct 25^th, 2009 at 2:01am:


I think you're doing a great job looking out for your son's best interests, and you should reward yourself with a grin now and then. This is not an easy battleground to navigate and each victory should be humbly appreciated and enjoyed. It helps getting thru the tough times, knowing that there are victories to be won in the future.

Bob

A question please, if anyone's listening. It's been 5 days since the last dose of seeds. Early afternoon we ground up the seeds and set them to soak. Michael took his methadone early A.M. with plan to wait as long as possible b4 taking seeds and as long as possible after seeds b4 taking methadone. He takes methadone twice/day and has withdrawn from 12/day to 10/day over the last few days. He forgot to take the seeds b4 we went to town this afternoon (we live a long way from town so that's 3 hrs. b4 we got back). Now it's too late to take seeds and be able to wait any length of time afterwards b4 taking methadone. So, we'll have to wait till tomorrow. My question is: will the seed slurry retain its potency till tomorrow afternoon? - the ground-up seeds will have been soaking in water for about 24 hrs. - or, shall I not take the chance and just toss 'em out and soak a new batch tomorrow? (Sorry for the length).

I'm no expert on the subject as you know Bonkers, but from what I've heard around here, I believe that brewski oughta be just fine. If it was me I think I might just refrigerate it.

bonkers wrote on Oct 27^th, 2009 at 10:03pm:

Any doc that prescribes O2 in my mind is good enough in my book.  My old neuro prescribed it to me, however with not being in cycle at that time I never pursued it since my insurance doesn't cover.  I was being cheap.  It really isn't that bad out of your pock with buying your own regulator and mask.  Well, my script ran out last December.  I made it through a short 14 day cycle a month ago and I owe that to the seeds.  I guess what i'm getting at is if the doc gives you the script for O2, take it and keep your mouth closed about the hallucinogens because most of the docs will shake their heads as mine did and I walked out of his office furious.  I have a new neuro who is a headache pain management specialist and i'm just going to him for the O2.  I won't even consider bringing up the seeds.  It's sad we have to be quiet about this to our "close" minded neuros when a lot of using it have more success using seeds rather than preventative drugs. 

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Alternatives in general.
14 states now have legal marijuana for medicinal purposes. I like herbal abortive. I never trip, I dose.
These social barriers, stigma's, labels, and stereotypes are impeding sensible medicine and causing much needless pain and suffering .
all the best
the bb

Until you can find a reliable source of "bigger guns" like shrooms or LSD, try experimenting with the seeds to see what works for him. They are dirt cheap in comparison to anything except oxygen therapy.

The conventional thinking is the 5-7 day spacing, but there have been people reporting good results with much closer spacing.

Remember that it's largely uncharted territory.

Best of luck to you two.

Thanks you guys. We'll wait and see what tomorrow brings.

The higher doses  following a single dose appear to follow the the multi day rules/quidelines and in my opinion have no more value than the single smallest (effective) dose that had some effect on the CH. with RC seeds.

Bonkers your son and I may be similar in the strength and frequency of the hits I experienced for 30 some years before the seeds came over 4 years ago.

I approach the dosing a bit different and see it as a chemical balance thing vs a knock em out fight and this works well for me.

Due to extreme work loads recently I let my control of CH with the seeds slip, as I felt they were causing some concentration issues, and lo and behold with no seeds taken over 3 months the ch has returned in a mild but increasing state. At night they were pacers and the days fairly constant. Its ruined my power napping abilities for sure.

I dosed with a larger dose of fresh RC seeds. The following 2 days were fairly rough. I dosed again with just 5 seeds in the morning and again in the late evening. I am now consuming just 4-5 seeds on a daily basis for the past 2 weeks and keeping the CH at bay, though I feel them lurking waiting to break out. Tommorrow I will give it a break.

If no adverse effects from the seeds to date dont be afraid to experiment to find what works for you. The worst outcome would possibly be no affect at all.
The RC seeds and the dosage are not a one size fits all thing.

hi MJ/others... I am awaiting my seeds (& O2), heading into my 5th week of cycle and should've been on to this much sooner but stupidly was optimistic this time!  No meds, just water water water and Im getting hammered.
My question is, should I start with 10 seeds or what?  I am sensitive to drugs, eg used to smoke dope 25 years ago but it began to disagree with me, have tried it maybe 4 or 5 times since, last time only a couple of puffs had me trippy for 12 hours + ! I just want an effective dose, not a trip!

thanks MJ, 10 it is then.
I did read all the CB info but will check the post link also ta.  Just being paranoid I guess & havent even taken anything yet 
CC

Might be the Methadone conflicting with the seeds, but on the other hand without Methadone it is unbearable... would be really hellish week of detoxing...

I guess time to pull put bigger guns, Psylocybin or the LSD that worked for Michael.