bonkers wrote on Oct 14^th, 2009 at 5:13pm:


OH Bonkers...sounds like you are having a bit of turmoil...Hate that..
   I have all the same questions, as I am waiting for my seeds to come.
 
  You are right...a variety of answers come, and it is so confusing, especially when we feel a tad desperate.

thank you for asking those particular questions   wish I could help you     keep us posted!

you hang in there!          lorac
   

Marc wrote on Oct 15^th, 2009 at 12:01am:


Well said Marc.

?1- doesnt matter

?2- good question. use lukewarm to cold water.
Tap water in many metro areas has high chlorine and chemical content that may diminish the LSA and other chemicals in the hydrolizing process but not sure.
There may be a chemist among us that could answer that.
I just dissolve the crushed seeds under the tonque.

?3- varies person to person for me 8 hours as a minimum. for many several days.

?5- its possible. interesting research from 1957
" One variety came from Cuba. It was smaller, and it did not have the same psychological effects. The Mexican variety was larger, however, and had more profound effects"
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?6- Some CH effect however small should be noticed fairly quick in my opinion but first you must find your own effective dose and as Marc says the methadone may be interfering.
Its all about serotonins ebb and flow it seems.

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Ingesting RC seeds is, too (cultivating them is not). That's not stopping anyone.

In for a dime, in for a dollar. Why not step up your search? Look for another somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody....

Hey Bonkers, check yer private messages. 

Brew, we're doing just that. I hope it doesn't take another 8 months.

Chad, we've read and continue to read both Clusterbusters and this forum. We're brand new here and will follow your kind advise. I'm 63 and retired so I've got the time and the passion to take this on as my new full-time job. Nothing is as important to me as getting my son a life.

Sandy_C, thanks. We ordered 100 seeds from Iamshaman, but received more like 250. Michael took 30 the first time, waited 4 days and took 45. No effect either time. We're going to wait 5 days, take 35, wait 5 days, take 35, etc., until they're gone. I'm going to order another 100 seeds and take them the same way. That should provide us with a pretty good test. Michael sees his doctor next week. We're going to ask for another O2 prescription and present him with the ammunition we now have for a high flow rate (at least 15 LPM) and a proper breathing apparatus. If we can't get 'em from him, we'll get 'em from someone else. If neither of these work, we'll continue to look for psychedelics and other remedies on this forum and elsewhere. We will find something that works.

bonkers wrote on Oct 14^th, 2009 at 5:13pm:


This has been my experience YMMV.

Beth

Bonkers, please keep us posted on how Michael is doing.  We are all hoping and praying that the seeds will give him some relief.

By the way, you can order from iamshaman a bag of 500 seeds, last quite a while. But, don't keep them in the little plastic bag they come in.  Get a small jelly jar with a screw top lid, put the seeds in, screw it down tight, and store the jar in the fridge.  I helps to keep the seeds fresh and from my experience, they don't seem to lose much potency..

Sandy

Thank you for your interest in my son, Sandy - and to everyone else on this forum. I'm really sorta shocked at the response. Until just a few days ago, we were alone. Not any more. It feels kinda like we've been adopted by a really big family.

I'll continue to stay active on this forum and keep you all posted on our progress. A couple more days till the next dose of seeds and an appointment with Michael's Pain Doc mid next week. We'll tell him of our success with LSD - which should surprise the hell out of him - and request an Rx for O2. By the way, should a quality, non-rebreather mask and a 15-25 LPM regulator be available from the supplier if I can talk the Dr. into prescribing them?

bonkers wrote on Oct 17^th, 2009 at 2:11am:

First off, yes you have joined a big family. Except most real families don't treat each other with this much respect.

Second, most oxygen supply houses aren't going to have regulators that go up past 15 lpm. You can either buy one on ebay or get two of them and connect them with a "T" fitting, open them up to full, and have one line going to the mask at 30 lpm.

Third, here's the mask you want:

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I get the less expensive one because I prefer using the mouthpiece. But those who prefer the mask fitting have reported that the more expensive one is REALLY nice. I actually have three - one at home, one in the car, and one at the office.

lorac wrote on Oct 17^th, 2009 at 8:54am:

Except the clustermasx is no longer available. This one is called the O₂ptimask and is the one available here on clusterheadaches.com.

I don't want to keep my fingers crossed so tightly that I lose circulation in them, but the last 3 days have been remarkably mild for Michael. His main complaint has been an inability to sleep. Could it be that the seeds . . . . ? It's about time for another dose. We'll just have to see. I don't want to get our hopes up. We'll keep you posted, if . . I . . . can just . . . . get . . my fingers . . . uncrossed.

Bejeeber, thanks for the lift and the laugh!