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Re: So it begins
Reply #50 - Oct 5^th, 2009 at 5:39pm

Potter wrote on Oct 5^th, 2009 at 5:19pm:

Marc wrote on Oct 5^th, 2009 at 5:14pm:

proposed $5.00 per head for range cattle and $15.00 per head on dairy cows.

Marc

Show me that proposal. Last I saw was eighty five bucks a head.

potter

Don't have it anymore - the link to the proposed bill came from a rancher friend who runs cattle, he may still have it. I'll ask.

Your number is probably the new reality in order to raise more tax money to cover the spending.

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Reply #51 - Oct 5^th, 2009 at 6:03pm

OK! I admit it! I did it! it was hairspray in the 70's from aerosol cans...tons of em............
and now, we have holes in the ozone.so we have some overheating, some overcooling......my feet are cold cas I type, I guess that's because it's 65 in the house and we haven't turned our furnace on yet..........and, of course, my destruction of the ozone in my teens.I think I'm gonna go put some boofies on my feet and.....and.......try to atone for me sins........
OHH THE HUMANITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: So it begins
Reply #52 - Oct 5^th, 2009 at 6:14pm

Marc wrote on Oct 5^th, 2009 at 5:14pm:

I remember global cooling caused by pollution being all the rage in the 70's.

If one might look again at all peer-reviewed journals of climate change '65-'79, less than 15% predicted global cooling, warming got the nod, but as with most sensationalism, it made the better story, got the press. Things haven't changed much.

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barry_sword CH.com Alumnus Offline Mountain Biking Keeps Me Sane Posts: 3947 Bracebridge, Canada Gender:	Re: So it begins Reply #53 - Oct 5^th, 2009 at 6:21pm Potter wrote on Oct 5^th, 2009 at 11:17am: We are getting pounded with wet heavy snow. Damn Potter, that sucks! It won't be long and we will have it also.
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seaworthy CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Posts: 706	Re: So it begins Reply #55 - Oct 5^th, 2009 at 7:42pm Poor horse. Didn't anyone tell him not to go kissing things in cold weather. Now he's got his lips stuck.
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barry_sword CH.com Alumnus Offline Mountain Biking Keeps Me Sane Posts: 3947 Bracebridge, Canada Gender:	Re: So it begins Reply #56 - Oct 5^th, 2009 at 8:07pm This coming Sunday is our Thanksgiving and we have had snow, hail, ect. on this weekend in the past. Potter, that just looks nasty. Is this the norm for you area this time of the year? Time for the Silkies?
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Re: So it begins
Reply #57 - Oct 5^th, 2009 at 9:26pm

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Either way, it's a potential source of income for politicians. Look at the personal fortunes being made in the carbon credit racket. The current Cap and Trade bill will make the same folks billionaires using the same "offset" mechanism.

Money aside, I think cap and trade makes little sense too.

It also makes little sense to point to cold winters and your outside temperature as examples that global warming is a fraud. It's not what it's about.

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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: So it begins Reply #58 - Oct 5^th, 2009 at 9:51pm You're right, Charlie. That's not what it's about. It's about using hand-selected data to support a theory. In other words, junk science.
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Reply #59 - Oct 5^th, 2009 at 10:43pm

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You're right, Charlie. That's not what it's about. It's about using hand-selected data to support a theory. In other words, junk science.

Yes. Exactly what the handpicked "scientists" your side uses to defute any possibility of concern that the vast majority of the scientific community agrees that it's something we are going to have to deal with.

Again...critcal thinking....unless you just can't stand not letting energy lobbyists guide your thinking so that anti-intellectual party fringes are your choice for information and deserving your support.

Denial of the possibility allows one to not have to deal with something not very comfortable.

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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: So it begins Reply #60 - Oct 5^th, 2009 at 10:52pm Nah. I just go by a total lack of unbiased evidence. That's where my critical thinking has led me. There is nothing about global warming or climate change or whatever it's called that isn't politically motivated. And there's one thing I can say about anything that's politically motivated: It's crap.
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Skyhawk5 CH.com Alumnus Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 1320 Ypsilanti, Mi. USA Gender:	Re: So it begins Reply #61 - Oct 5^th, 2009 at 11:29pm Scientist's predictions are just that. Science is no more an exact thing than is Medicine. I say "just say no to snow". One thing for sure is it's not political. Don
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Lefty CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 759 Gender:	Re: So it begins Reply #62 - Oct 6^th, 2009 at 5:58am Cool pic Potter...! It's a pain in the arse but I just love the snow... Lefty...!
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deltadarlin CH.com Alumnus Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 3823 Downsville LA Gender:	Re: So it begins Reply #63 - Oct 6^th, 2009 at 8:24am Low to mid 80's here today with possible severe thunderstorms tonight.
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Charlie CH.com Alumnus Offline Happy to be here Posts: 18971 Jamestown, NY Gender:	Re: So it begins Reply #65 - Oct 6^th, 2009 at 10:32am Quote: It's crap. Perfect Charlie
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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: So it begins Reply #66 - Oct 6^th, 2009 at 10:56am Charlie wrote on Oct 6^th, 2009 at 10:32am: Quote: It's crap. Perfect Charlie Yay! As usual, we come to some point upon which we agree!
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Charlie CH.com Alumnus Offline Happy to be here Posts: 18971 Jamestown, NY Gender:	Re: So it begins Reply #67 - Oct 6^th, 2009 at 11:36am Quote: Yay! As usual, we come to some point upon which we agree! Must be something to do with CH. We'll all so warm and fuzzy here. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or Charlie
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-johnny- CH.com Sponsor Offline theres no smoking on the dock Posts: 1642 fayette county ohio Gender:	Re: So it begins Reply #68 - Oct 11^th, 2009 at 2:09pm Potter wrote on Oct 5^th, 2009 at 5:19pm: Marc wrote on Oct 5^th, 2009 at 5:14pm: proposed $5.00 per head for range cattle and $15.00 per head on dairy cows. Marc Show me that proposal. Last I saw was eighty five bucks a head. potter you get taxed for the the methane gas emitted by your cattle?
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