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Lawrence CH.com Veteran Offline There WILL be a cure Posts: 163 Merrillville, Indiana Gender:	Re: Zyprexa! Reply #25 - Sep 8^th, 2009 at 6:50pm Bob Johnson wrote on Sep 8^th, 2009 at 3:00pm: (I hope that you gave your doc the abstract I posted at the top of this string giving the original report on using Zyprexa. He needs this information.) I did! He has his own copy now. Thanks Bob, kudos to you
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Reply #26 - Sep 9^th, 2009 at 6:01pm

Hey guys....

Had a chance to try the Zyprexa......I had a hit coming on around 11 am....immediately took the Zyprexa....the hit started coming on kinda fast in its usual fashion...I took a 5mg pill.....the HA started diminishing after about 15-20 minutes.....it does abort clusters....it just takes awhile. I got drowsy afterwards, and also have a soreness in the back of my head.....the soreness is still there....hours later.

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Lawrence CH.com Veteran Offline There WILL be a cure Posts: 163 Merrillville, Indiana Gender:	Re: Zyprexa! Reply #27 - Sep 11^th, 2009 at 1:30pm Hey guys.....I had another hit last nite......took 10 mg of Zyprexa, CH was gone in 10 minutes. Don't sleep on this info! The Zyprexa is working! Its becoming my abortive along with the O2, and Imitrex.
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Reply #28 - Sep 11^th, 2009 at 2:01pm

bejeeber wrote on Sep 8^th, 2009 at 6:43pm:

Any one know whether Zyprexa plays nice with imitrex?

As in:

"Dang this Zyprexa isn't working, I'll just whip out my imitrex and get a quick jab then without fear of a bad interaction between these 2 drugs"

Or:

"I used my one allowable dose of Zyprexa 6 hours ago, so now that I'm being hit again, heck I'll just use my trusty imitrex this time"?

hey bejeeber,
i just read in here that they play nice together Wink

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Reply #29 - Sep 11^th, 2009 at 9:48pm

Ooh - that is certainly encouraging - my Zyprexa antennae are fully extended now! Grin

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CH according to Bejeeber:

Strictly relying on doctors for CH treatment is often a prescription that will keep you in a whole lot of PAIN. Doctors are WAY behind in many respects, and they are usually completely unaware of the benefits of high flow 100% O2.

There are lots of effective treatments documented at this site. Take matters into your own hands, learn as much as you can here and at clusterbusters.com, put it into practice, then tell this CH beast Jeebs said hello right before you bash him so hard with a swift uppercut knockout punch that his stupid horns go flinging right off.

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Reply #30 - Sep 12^th, 2009 at 4:45pm

bejeeber wrote on Sep 11^th, 2009 at 9:48pm:

Ooh - that is certainly encouraging - my Zyprexa antennae are fully extended now! Grin

jeeb,
I got hit last nite with an oncoming CH.....took Zyprexa and also got on the oxygen.....i think i goof'ed up by doing that because that combo took the CH away within minutes...no longer than 7 minutes.....so I got off the oxygen
thinking that the Zyprexa in my system would keep it away once it was gone....the headache came back again 1 hour later......my analysis....i think the oxygen reduced the effectiveness of the Zyprexa. In so many words, the Zyprexa couldnt do anything because the oxygen aborted the HA. So it was as if I took Zyprexa being pain free. if you take Zyprexa when you're pain free it wont do anything, its only able to abort a hit after the hits already incoming.

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Reply #31 - Sep 12^th, 2009 at 7:24pm

Lawrence wrote on Sep 12^th, 2009 at 4:45pm:

............my analysis....i think the oxygen reduced the effectiveness of the Zyprexa. In so many words, the Zyprexa couldnt do anything because the oxygen aborted the HA. ......

To me, that seems like a huge leap to conclusion.

I would suggest waiting to see if that happens consistently before making a treatment decision for yourself.

Most of us cannot even begin to count the number of "cause and effect" things that we were sure of - but eventually found to be wrong assumptions over time.

Sometimes the hits just come again............

Marc

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I make these comments because I wouldn't want to see you (or anyone else) trash something that just might be a very good part of your success.

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Lawrence CH.com Veteran Offline There WILL be a cure Posts: 163 Merrillville, Indiana Gender:	Re: Zyprexa! Reply #32 - Sep 12^th, 2009 at 7:42pm Marc wrote on Sep 12^th, 2009 at 7:24pm: Sometimes the hits just come again............ Marc Thats true. I'm confused by it, because I added the Zyprexa in the equation.....I don't know...
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Marc Ex Member Gender:	Re: Zyprexa! Reply #33 - Sep 12^th, 2009 at 7:56pm Just stay with it, man! Keep trying what feels right. I'm an O2 freak (in case you hadn't noticed) but that doesn't mean that it is the answer for you. My point was to NOT give up on anything too soon. MANY things we use to attack our condition are a process, not a one time event. Marc
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Reply #34 - Sep 12^th, 2009 at 8:38pm

That result you got there last night is tuff to figure out for sure, not to mention disappointing, Lawrence. Dang. Undecided

HA coming back in an hour certainly is typical for me if I use O2 for a wake up hit - I can see how it seems like the Zyprexa didn't do it's thing.

Causes me to wonder about this whole simulataneous O2 and Zyprexa approach, and for that matter simultaneous O2 and imitrex. Hmmmm.... I'm gonna start a new topic about that! Cheesy

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CH according to Bejeeber:

Strictly relying on doctors for CH treatment is often a prescription that will keep you in a whole lot of PAIN. Doctors are WAY behind in many respects, and they are usually completely unaware of the benefits of high flow 100% O2.

There are lots of effective treatments documented at this site. Take matters into your own hands, learn as much as you can here and at clusterbusters.com, put it into practice, then tell this CH beast Jeebs said hello right before you bash him so hard with a swift uppercut knockout punch that his stupid horns go flinging right off.

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Reply #35 - Sep 13^th, 2009 at 1:56am

Hi All-

Glad to see the interest and some success with the Zyprexa. I had no idea what I was starting! It worked for me every time within 15-20 minutes without fail and seemed to keep me pain free for about 24-33 hours at 2.5 mg. I cannot speak to the 02 issue because I don't have much experience there. The only thing I can say is that you had 2 variables so there is no way you can know for sure what happened. Good luck!

Tip...When I was finished with it, I tapered the Zyprexa for 4 days. Took half of a pill for 2 days, then a fourth of a pill for 2 days. I am always fearful of abrupt stops of medication during or near cycles. I just finished it yesterday. I'll keep you posted.

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Reply #36 - Sep 13^th, 2009 at 5:29pm

thanks Joni.....

The beast showed up for breakfast this morning, and got SERVED.......

a tall can of whoop-ass.....

I felt that slight "twinge" feeling in the right side of my head this morning....letting me know the HOR (hound from hell) was on its way....i quickly popped in 10 mg of the Zyprexa.....Beast annihilated.............I could feel the HA trying to get stronger after I took it....letting me know it wasn't a "false alarm".....(u know sometimes when you feel that twinge the CH doesn't always come....)

the key, just like anything else....is to take a dose the moment you start to feel it....don't wait Cool

Zyprexa is working well for me as an abortive

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Bob Johnson CH.com Alumnus Offline "Only the educated are free." -Epictetus Posts: 5965 Kennett Square, PA (USA) Gender:	Re: Zyprexa! Reply #37 - Sep 14^th, 2009 at 8:21am re. #36. Your experience reminded me of the only time that CH would lead to a SMILE! When the Zyprexa hit me the pain disappeared with such speed and completeness that it was like a light switch being thrown! Oh, that it was so good for all CH folks....
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Reply #38 - Sep 14^th, 2009 at 1:53pm

Bob Johnson wrote on Sep 14^th, 2009 at 8:21am:

re. #36. Your experience reminded me of the only time that CH would lead to a SMILE! When the Zyprexa hit me the pain disappeared with such speed and completeness that it was like a light switch being thrown!

Oh, that it was so good for all CH folks....

i'm ready to go back to work now

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