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Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:05am
 
I went to urgent care yesterday for what I thought would be a sinus infection. I have had "seasonal" headaches for 5-6 years now (I am 28) and this one is bar far the worst.
The Dr. could not find any symptom of a disease and after hearing about the prolonged heachaches, precribed Fioricet and a CT scan. The scan was negative, the Fioricet has gotten me through one night, but after reading some of your more colorful stories, I am fairly certain, I have CH, based on the "seasonal" reoccurance and the severity (6-4 280 lb ex football player brought to his knees and tears).
Any advice on Fioricet or CH in general?
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Reply #1 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 12:42pm
 
So many docs, even neurologists, have little training/experience in headache. A good doc is essential first step.

LOCATING HEADACHE SPECIALIST

1. Search the OUCH site (button on left) for a list of recommended M.D.s.

2. Yellow Pages phone book: look for "Headache Clinics" in the M.D. section and look under "neurologist" where some docs will list speciality areas of practice.

3.  Call your hospital/medical center. They often have an office to assist in finding a physician. You may have to ask for the social worker/patient advocate.

4. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register; On-line screen to find a physician.

5. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register Look for "Physician Finder" search box.  Call 1-800-643-5552; they will send a list of M.D.s for your state.I suggest using this source for several reasons: first, we have read several messages from people who, even seeing neurologists, are unhappy with the quality of care and ATTITUDES they have encountered; second, the clinical director of the Jefferson (Philadelphia) Headache Clinic said, in late 1999, that upwards of 40%+ of U.S. doctors have poor training in treating headache and/or hold attitudes about headache ("hysterical female disorder") which block them from sympathetic and effective work with the patient; third, it's necessary to find a doctor who has experience, skill, and a set of attitudes which give hope of success. This is the best method I know of to find such a physician.
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Start to learn about CH:

 
Cluster headache.
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[Easy to read; one of the better overview articles I've seen. Suggest printing the full length article--link, line above--if you are serious about keeping a good medical library on the subject.]

Leroux E, Ducros A.

ABSTRACT: Cluster headache (CH) is a primary headache disease characterized by recurrent short-lasting attacks (15 to 180 minutes) of excruciating unilateral periorbital pain accompanied by ipsilateral autonomic signs (lacrimation, nasal congestion, ptosis, miosis, lid edema, redness of the eye). It affects young adults, predominantly males. Prevalence is estimated at 0.5-1.0/1,000. CH has a circannual and circadian periodicity, attacks being clustered (hence the name) in bouts that can occur during specific months of the year. ALCOHOL IS THE ONLY DIETARY TRIGGER OF CH, STRONG ODORS (MAINLY SOLVENTS AND CIGARETTE SMOKE) AND NAPPING MAY ALSO TRIGGER CH ATTACKS. During bouts, attacks may happen at precise hours, especially during the night. During the attacks, patients tend to be restless. CH may be episodic or chronic, depending on the presence of remission periods. CH IS ASSOCIATED WITH TRIGEMINOVASCULAR ACTIVATION AND NEUROENDOCRINE AND VEGETATIVE DISTURBANCES, HOWEVER, THE PRECISE CAUSATIVE MECHANISMS REMAIN UNKNOWN. Involvement of the hypothalamus (a structure regulating endocrine function and sleep-wake rhythms) has been confirmed, explaining, at least in part, the cyclic aspects of CH. The disease is familial in about 10% of cases. Genetic factors play a role in CH susceptibility, and a causative role has been suggested for the hypocretin receptor gene. Diagnosis is clinical. Differential diagnoses include other primary headache diseases such as migraine, paroxysmal hemicrania and SUNCT syndrome. At present, there is no curative treatment. There are efficient treatments to shorten the painful attacks (acute treatments) and to reduce the number of daily attacks (prophylactic treatments). Acute treatment is based on subcutaneous administration of sumatriptan and high-flow oxygen. Verapamil, lithium, methysergide, prednisone, greater occipital nerve blocks and topiramate may be used for prophylaxis. In refractory cases, deep-brain stimulation of the hypothalamus and greater occipital nerve stimulators have been tried in experimental settings.THE DISEASE COURSE OVER A LIFETIME IS UNPREDICTABLE. Some patients have only one period of attacks, while in others the disease evolves from episodic to chronic form.

PMID: 18651939 [PubMed]
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Use the Rozen list to discuss options with your doc.
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Here is a link to read and print and take to your doctor.  It describes preventive, transitional, abortive and surgical treatments for CH. Written by one of the better headache docs in the U.S.  (2002)
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Reply #2 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 12:54pm
 
What Bob said! Wink

Welcome to the board. Sadly, you've picked a rare ailment. If you'd have picked migrains or arthritis, there are specialists coming out the ear and plenty of treatment options to choose from. Your challenge is to find a neuro knowledgeable in CH, or at least one open to learning. Then educate yourself, we'll help all we can, and then you need to form a partnership with your doc to plan your treatment. Many find what works best is a 2 pronged approach. You sound episodic, like me, meaning you have months of happy happy joy joy pain free time, then the beast comes back to visit!

1: A good preventative medication. This is a med you take daily, while on cycle, to reduce frequency and intensity of your attacks. Verapamil seems to be the most popular first try. We take it at doses higher then most docs are used to, upwards of 960 mg a day. I use lithium while on cycle, 1200 mg a day, blocks about 70-80% of my attacks. There are others to read about on the meds board. Some have even combined the lithium and the verapamil to get relief. ALL UNDER A DOCTORS DIRECTION! We say that a lot around here, these are high horsepower meds we use.

2: A good abortive. The headache is coming, now what? Your first line abortive should be oxygen. Read the "oxygen info" on the left, print out the info and bring it to your doc. Enjoying a HUGE success rate on the board. I can stop an attack in 6-8 minutes huffing the 02. Do read the link as it must be used correctly or it won't work.

Imitrex injectable and nasal sprays are also popular abortives. They work for me, I just HATE how they make me feel and the 02 works just as fast for me.

For now, try slamming an energy drink at the first hint of an attack. Monster, Rock Star, any containing the combination of caffeine and taurine. Many can abort or reduce an attack using these. Some keep open cans in the fridge while on cycle so they lose their fizz and you can chug them faster. Strong coffee will help a lot with the lingering attacks we call shadows.

Careful with the fioricet. Not a good med for CH, will barely touch the pain and the potential for addiction and associated problems is high.

Welcome to the board, let's find you a decent headache doc!

Joe
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Reply #3 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 1:01pm
 
    I suffered for over 7 years with this hideous pain. I tried every type of doctor you can think of and still not one of them figured out that It was cluster headaches (I was treated for allergies & TMG). I found out what I had when my mother was reading a 'home remedy book' and seen clusters listed & it sounded like me.

My suggestion to you is do TONS of research to really determine if you still think you have clusters and then search for a Neuro in your area that knows what clusters are and to confirm that you have CH. Regardless you need to see a neuro so that he can rule out anything else that could cause your symptoms.

    Be prepared if you have CH for a lot of wasted hours in the doctors office due to their ignorance about CH. I seen the same GP for 7 years and not once did he take the time to do research to determine what I had. Most doctors just want to take your money give you a script and send you on your way.

Needless to say I have a very low opinion about doctors after 7 years of pain that could have been prevented with oxygen if I had known what I had.

Good luck and if you have CH you found the best place anywhere for support and information here at CH.com
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Reply #4 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 8:06pm
 
Yup! Smiley
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