Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
Clusterheadaches.com
 
Search box updated Dec 3, 2011... Search ch.com with Google!
  HomeHelpSearchLoginRegisterEvent CalendarBirthday List  
 





Pages: 1 2 
Send Topic Print
chiropractors (Read 5731 times)
Lissa
CH.com Hall of Famer
*****
Offline




Posts: 740
Re: chiropractors
Reply #25 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 1:59pm
 
Linda_Howell wrote on Apr 2nd, 2009 at 12:41am:
Oh boy....I'm with Chuck here.  Some of the things we have heard here are almost laughable.   Grin


Glad someone got a laugh!  Smiley

Quote:
So what makes you think it might be Migraines then?  I'm confused.


I guess I was hopeful that it was a migraine because migraines can be fixed by chiropractors most of the time.  My husband has had much relief.  I don't know what a migraine is like, so it was just a hopeful thought that came to mind.

Quote:
   In all of our desire to find a cause or an answer we sometimes grasp at the proverbial straw.  Nothing wrong with that if we are logical in our approach and do not go off in a direction that will take us away from helping ourselves.  For instance...Imitrex is NOT cheaper than 02.  No way...no how.  (6 nasel sprays cost me 212.00.  An E-tank cost me 10.00)


We all prefer different treatments, obviously.  I prefer imitrex.  I don't think they're is anything wrong with that.  It is cheaper because my insurance does not cover O2.

Quote:
Alcohol is a trigger.  It is NOT the cause of our condition.  Smoking...while bad for our general health, is not a cause, not is it even a trigger.  


Obviously it is not the CAUSE.  I've had this beast for over 10 years, I know that.  Alcohol and cigarette smoke are huge triggers for me.  I stay far away from both of them when in a cycle.  

Quote:
You seem to have been here before but I don't remember you...hope you stick around and read up on the latest around here and welcome back.


Thanks Linda!
Back to top
« Last Edit: Apr 2nd, 2009 at 2:00pm by Lissa »  

Episodic cluster survivor since 1995 at age 16.
 
IP Logged
 
ClusterChuck
CH.com Alumnus
***
Offline


The BEAST rises again,
and again, and again,
and .


Posts: 5394
Greenville, North Carolina
Gender: male
Re: chiropractors
Reply #26 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 3:51pm
 
I remove my post, because I don't want to be guilty of driving someone off.

Lips Sealed

Chuck
Back to top
« Last Edit: Apr 2nd, 2009 at 4:14pm by ClusterChuck »  

CAUTION:  Do NOT smoke when using or around oxygen.  Oxygen can permeate your clothing or bedding.  Wait, before lighting cigarette or flame.  

Keep fire extinguisher available, and charged.
ClusterChuck  
IP Logged
 
Lissa
CH.com Hall of Famer
*****
Offline




Posts: 740
Re: chiropractors
Reply #27 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 4:01pm
 
ClusterChuck wrote on Apr 2nd, 2009 at 3:51pm:
You don't care about the rebounds and possible damages to your body that Imitrex can cause?  You don't want to use something that is SAFE, NATURAL, cheap and EXTREMELY effective?


Actually, no I don't care about the damage to my body.  When I'm in that kind of pain, I will do what it takes to stop it. 

Quote:
Your insurance doesn't cover oxygen?  BULLSHIT!  You just have to fight them for it, and find the right way to code it.  Hell, paying for oxygen out of your pocket is probably cheaper than your co-pay is for the Imitrex.


Stop acting like an idiot.  You don't know my insurance.  For your information, I have a VERY high deductible.   

Quote:
And chiropractors can stop migraines?


Yes, my husband has migraines and he gets a lot of relief from chiropractic care.

Quote:
OK, I know when I have run up against a mind that is closed to the truth.  I will go help someone that actually wants help.


You're an ass.  Don't respond to my posts if you can't be nice. 
Back to top
  

Episodic cluster survivor since 1995 at age 16.
 
IP Logged
 
Linda_Howell
CH.com Moderator
CH.com Alumnus
*****
Offline


Do not feed the Moderators


Posts: 11927
Santa Maria, Ca.
Gender: female
Re: chiropractors
Reply #28 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 4:16pm
 
In order for this site to be run the way DJ envisions it should be he has put in a standard of conduct for everyoen to read before they post.   Please read it since you haven't been here in a while.

  Quote:
  CH.com Standard of Conduct
Feb 2nd, 2009, 8:09pm     ClusterHeadaches.com is going to live by a new set of "standards" that involve integrity and respect.  These standards have been added to the registration agreement so every new member who joins from now on will know what the expectations are when they create their profile.

This message board is not a democracy, at best it is a benevolent dictatorship.  As such, users of this site will be held to a prominent standard of integrity and respect.

Debate is welcome (and encouraged), but attack ideas and opinions; not personalities.  Note that putting an "in my opinion" type of qualifier on a violating statement does not change the fact that the statement violates these standards.

Personal attacks or threats against other board members will NOT be tolerated. Racist, sexist, Anti-Semitic remarks, or hate speech will not be allowed. Calling a member 'troll' or using 'troll' or similar emoticons is considered a personal attack.  Abuse of the Private Message (PM) privileges, harassment, stalking, etc... will not be tolerated.

As a general guideline, the first instance of a member violating these standards will result in a “lock down” of one week during which the member will not be allowed to post on the message board or send/receive PM’s.  A second instance will result in a “lock down” of one month.  A third instance will result in immediate and permanent banning.

In order to protect and preserve the overall health and well-being of the site, the owners/administrators reserve the right to remove any post or user from our community at our sole discretion and without explanation.



Calling people names as you did to Chuck, steps over that line.  As DJ says...attack the idea or opinion...NOT the person.
Back to top
  

Hurt people.....hurt people.   Think about it.
WWW calientev8 N/A N/A  
IP Logged
 
Lissa
CH.com Hall of Famer
*****
Offline




Posts: 740
Re: chiropractors
Reply #29 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 4:19pm
 
ClusterChuck wrote on Apr 2nd, 2009 at 12:08am:
Lissa wrote on Apr 1st, 2009 at 9:01pm:
I prefer Imitrex simply because it's a lot easier to carry around, it's cheaper and it won't blow up.  

Oh the foolish comments of those that have NO IDEA what they are talking about!  CHEAPER???  BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

And blow up?  Oh yes, I read about that happening EVERY day .... And at least THREE times on every Tuesday!

Yup, it sure is dangerous!  <dripping in sarcasm>


Lissa wrote on Apr 1st, 2009 at 9:01pm:
Just like alcohol, smoking and breathing, why not misalignment.

WOW!!!  BREATHING is a trigger for clusters??

It is amazing what I learn here!

No wonder we all get hit!  We all BREATHE!!!  

OK, everyone, here is the new cure!!!  No more breathing!  It will cure your clusters!


You're telling me this post and the other that he deleted wasn't disrespectful?
Back to top
  

Episodic cluster survivor since 1995 at age 16.
 
IP Logged
 
Mrs Deej
YaBB Administrator
*****
Offline


My life is what I make
it, and it's beautiful!


Posts: 1348
Tornado Alley
Gender: female
Re: chiropractors
Reply #30 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 4:23pm
 
OK, I'm gonna step in here.  Chuck is NOT an ass, and consider this your warning for name-calling.  He is the LAST person on this site that would ever be mean.

Everyone needs to take a deeeeeeep breath.
Back to top
  

"I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody" - Bill Cosby
WWW MrsDeej 1514951301  
IP Logged
 
Lissa
CH.com Hall of Famer
*****
Offline




Posts: 740
Re: chiropractors
Reply #31 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 4:29pm
 
Mrs Deej wrote on Apr 2nd, 2009 at 4:23pm:
OK, I'm gonna step in here.  Chuck is NOT an ass, and consider this your warning for name-calling.  He is the LAST person on this site that would ever be mean.

Everyone needs to take a deeeeeeep breath.  


His responses to my post were totally inappropriate.  If you don't think what he said was mean, then wow.  Just wow.
Back to top
  

Episodic cluster survivor since 1995 at age 16.
 
IP Logged
 
Potter
CH.com Alumnus
***
Offline


Team MOOSE DROOL Stinky
Stuff on a Hook Prostaff


Posts: 3600
Blgs.Mt.
Gender: male
Re: chiropractors
Reply #32 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 4:36pm
 
Lissa wrote on Apr 2nd, 2009 at 4:29pm:
Mrs Deej wrote on Apr 2nd, 2009 at 4:23pm:
OK, I'm gonna step in here.  Chuck is NOT an ass, and consider this your warning for name-calling.  He is the LAST person on this site that would ever be mean.

Everyone needs to take a deeeeeeep breath.  


His responses to my post were totally inappropriate.  If you don't think what he said was mean, then wow.  Just wow.

I thought his post was spot on.  Ya shoulda seen the beating I took from a few members when I posted some cockamamy shit.  I took heed, got the oxygen going and dropped the imtrex.

               Kinder gentler Potter
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Mrs Deej
YaBB Administrator
*****
Offline


My life is what I make
it, and it's beautiful!


Posts: 1348
Tornado Alley
Gender: female
Re: chiropractors
Reply #33 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 4:40pm
 
Lissa,

Check your PM's...
Back to top
  

"I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody" - Bill Cosby
WWW MrsDeej 1514951301  
IP Logged
 
FramCire
CH.com Alumnus
***
Offline


Life like a froward child
must be humored a little


Posts: 1710
Bolivar, MO USA
Gender: male
Re: chiropractors
Reply #34 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 7:47pm
 
1.  While Chuck might have annoyed you, he is right about Oxygen.  If you deductibles are so high, how could imitrex be cheaper?  Out of pocket, O2 is not expensive.  buy your own regulator and mask and it is very cheap.  If you go into cycle and need it every day, most insurance cos wont give you more than 6 a month (unless this has changed recently)

2.  Imitrex has negative effects to the body. 

3.  Have you tried energy drinks (very cold chugged) with taurine???  If your hits arent so bad, they may be a better option.

I am not down-playing using imitrex, as it works very effectively, but I think O2 is a much better option in general if it works for you.

Now chuck, you know breathing is a trigger since you are chronic and every day you breathe, you usually get multiple hits!!!!

As for smoking, if it was a trigger.... whoa, conventions would be ugly!
Back to top
  

You've overstayed your welcome since the day we met but it doesn't seem to matter to you.  No medications are your master, nothing makes you fret, it's a helpless feeling having nothing I can do
 
IP Logged
 
Emjay
CH.com Junior
**
Offline


I Love CH.com!


Posts: 78
Re: chiropractors
Reply #35 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 9:55pm
 
I totally agree with FramCire and others about the O2 and my insurance company doesn't cover it BUT for about $75/month, I cover it and it is well worth it.  NO side effects should make you more laert for your toddler!

I have used Imitrix for nighttime hits.  Now I use Melatonin, 15mgs a night and no hits.

Verapamil 480mgs during cycle does the trick for the most part.

RockStar light for shadows (I don't like the bubbles in Red Bull or Monster).

I have been going for chiropractic care for over 20 years and it does nothing for the CH but great stuff for the surround issues, as others have mentioned, as well as lupus (which I also have).  I brought info from this site to my chiro; that is how little he works with it and he is also a physical therapist...

I have learned so much from this site, and the support and humor is a boon.  It is hard to get over myself when I am in a CH period, even "light" because I am on edge waiting for the harder hits.  Chuck has been a delight to get to know, as has Giuseppi and Linda and so many others...  Read and learn. Smiley

Good luck and my you be PF!
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
icedragon
Ex Member



Re: chiropractors
Reply #36 - Apr 3rd, 2009 at 12:00am
 
FramCire wrote on Apr 2nd, 2009 at 7:47pm:
1.  While Chuck might have annoyed you, he is right about Oxygen.  If you deductibles are so high, how could imitrex be cheaper?  Out of pocket, O2 is not expensive.  buy your own regulator and mask and it is very cheap.  If you go into cycle and need it every day, most insurance cos wont give you more than 6 a month (unless this has changed recently)

2.  Imitrex has negative effects to the body.  

3.  Have you tried energy drinks (very cold chugged) with taurine???  If your hits arent so bad, they may be a better option.

I am not down-playing using imitrex, as it works very effectively, but I think O2 is a much better option in general if it works for you.

Now chuck, you know breathing is a trigger since you are chronic and every day you breathe, you usually get multiple hits!!!!

As for smoking, if it was a trigger.... whoa, conventions would be ugly!



Fram, I believe with higher deductibles you have lower co-pays.  When I was covered by Kaiser, all of my co-pays for meds were only $5.00.  It did not matter what the med was, it was always $5.00.

As far as what Chuck said in his post, I can not blame Lissa for her reaction.  I know Chuck does not mean to offend usually, but he crossed the line also. 

Quote:
OK, I know when I have run up against a mind that is closed to the truth.  I will go help someone that actually wants help.

I don't know what the rest of you would call this, but it looks like a character assassination to me.  And Lissa is the one getting a warning...

Not to mention, she has stated her opinion on O2, and everyone continues to push their opinion about O2 on her.  Give the girl a break.

Thomas
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Kevin_M
CH.com Sponsor
***
Offline


withered branches grow
green again.


Posts: 8754
Michigan, USA
Gender: male
Re: chiropractors
Reply #37 - Apr 3rd, 2009 at 1:08am
 
Although she's much more, I was hoping Chuck was just being jealous being taken for granted 'cause along comes Lissa and I said she was a remembered pretty and haven't said it to Chuckie lately. 

I was out of line here.
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Jill
CH.com Alumnus
***
Offline


"Life is a series of goodbyes
and hellos" Billy J.


Posts: 368
Sweden
Gender: female
Re: chiropractors
Reply #38 - Apr 3rd, 2009 at 4:21am
 
I just wanted to add one thing or rather ask one thing.. has anyone found that the chiropractor made it worse?

My aunt "convinced" me to see on in New Jersey and by the time that he got done, I was in such pain that I was screaming and banging more than ever. I had to go the ER for treatment because it was too severe to go through.. I never went back for fear that that would happen again.

I also scared the chiropractor so bad that called me twice to see how I was doing and to say that he had never seen anything like that. He got a first hand glimpse of CH and I am sure that is not what he wanted to see.

I know that this does not happen to everyone but I just wanted to share my story.. and, not that I want to ever try it again, but wondering if this was a fluke or a trigger? You never know.

And I also wanted to add that I read through this whole post and I have to say that somethings in here were out of line. What Chuck wrote and I know that he meant well were a bit harsh and out of line. We all have our ideas on what works and does not work, we need to respect each other on that.

I did not think that the breathing being a trigger comment was so bad because when I am shadowing and I know of another person with this too, breathing through that nostril is very painful and can make it worse.

And, one more thing, I understand that oxygen is beneficial and safe for most people on this board but that option is not for everyone. I know that it can be very hard to get a hold of and does not work for everyone. If someone has another treatment that works for them than that should be fine.. we all want to be painfree and we do what we need to do as individuals to get there.

That is just my two sense worth.

Jill
Back to top
  

"If you learn from your suffering and really come to understand the lesson you were taught you might be able to help someone else who is now in the phase. Maybe that is what its all about after all.."
WWW Worldshots2003 FarmerGJill  
IP Logged
 
Jennifer
CH.com Alumnus
***
Offline




Posts: 3265
Supply, VA
Gender: female
Re: chiropractors
Reply #39 - Apr 3rd, 2009 at 10:47pm
 
Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry
Lips Sealed
Back to top
  
WWW Jennifer Whitty Donald Yennyfur_D  
IP Logged
 
catlind
CH.com Moderator
CH.com Alumnus
*****
Offline


Surf's Up!


Posts: 4536
Weaverville NC
Gender: female
Re: chiropractors
Reply #40 - Apr 4th, 2009 at 11:52am
 
Lissa, as I posted in your other thread, I understand that you are going through difficult times right now.  We've all been yhere, although some lose sight of what it was like when they suffered without support or treatment, most here are truly interested in helping you.

Please, use my email or my PM and get in touch with me and let's see if we can't find something that will work to get you some relief from your suffering.

Save your energy for battling your pain.  No one here can claim to know everything, myself included.  I'd like to try and help you if you're interested.

The one thing we know for sure about this disease is that we don't know everything and it's face is always changing.  Contact me if you think you'd like some help from me - no strings or judgement attached.

Cat
Back to top
  

A true friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart.

If yer gonna be stupid, ya gotta be tough

Who is John Galt?
catlind catlind68 or kadiya68 660506913 kadiya68 kadiya68  
IP Logged
 
Pixie-elf
CH.com Hall of Famer
*****
Offline


I've tried the rest, and
busting is the best!


Posts: 517
Beaumont,Tx
Gender: female
Re: chiropractors
Reply #41 - Apr 6th, 2009 at 3:42am
 
Okay, I need to address something on the insurance side of oxygen.

I'm on medicaid.

I'm on disability.

I cannot get medicaid to cover my oxygen for the cluster headaches. I've been told when I have medicare added to my insurance, they still will not provide it.

I have a headache specialist who's goal at this point is to SAVE my life. The people I get my oxygen from, also know how grim my situation is.

So I've got all of these people fighting for me, and the government is STILL refusing me!

On the OTHER hand however, we found a loop hole.

They WILL NOT be able to deny me the oxygen so long as my 02 sat during sleep is 88% or less. I have central apnea. So we're going to go through the test, to get me the oxygen that way.

Lissa, you may want to call a home health care company, and ask them about doing this. If they won't give you the 02 based on the CH diagnosis, you could talk to your doctor, along with a home health care company about a way to get it for you.

I pay $11 per bottle right now, I go through a bottle a day. My family absolutely cannot afford 3k a month... So I have to find other means of coping, but being told this by several people has given me hope that I'll have this abortive here.

If you feel the trex is enough, that's fine too. But I do reccomend seeing if you could get the oxygen that way. It never hurts to try, because you never know, it could help you.

PFDAN
Mystina
Back to top
  

As far as I'm concerned, cluster busting has been the best treatment I've tried. No migraines since I started it, and my hits have gotten so much better. Wanna know more?
Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register

It's saved my life.
 
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 
Send Topic Print

DISCLAIMER: All information contained on this web site is for informational purposes only.  It is in no way intended to be used as a replacement for professional medical treatment.   clusterheadaches.com makes no claims as to the scientific/clinical validity of the information on this site OR to that of the information linked to from this site.  All information taken from the internet should be discussed with a medical professional!