fightguy wrote on Apr 19^th, 2010 at 3:34pm:
I believe that 1 HBWR seed is far more potent than 4 rc seeds, however that is just a starting point.  Those who have taken those seeds correctly have gotten pretty messed and very nauseous.  They're strong.

fightguy wrote on Apr 20^th, 2010 at 1:24pm:
I'm not talking from personal experience, but those who have tried them say they're super strong.  The hardest part about any of these seeds are whether or not there is a enough LSA in them to do the trick.

fightguy wrote on Apr 20^th, 2010 at 2:54pm:

  No orange wedge for you.

           Potter

Bummer. After 5 days headache free, I was hit last night shortly after going to sleep with a kip 7

Does it usually take dosing more than once to be effective, or is it more likely that the HBWR seeds are not going to work for me?

I am so disappointed and was feeling very enthusiastic about this. 

fightguy wrote on Apr 21^st, 2010 at 10:35am:

Switch to psilocybin or try another natural remedy like Kudzu.  A lot of folks here have good luck with that.  That beast constantly changes patterns so it's a game to him and makes our management harder.

fightguy wrote on Apr 21^st, 2010 at 10:35am:


Dont be too disappointed. 5 days pain free from the first dose usually means you'll have pretty good luck. Most people need at least two and more likely more, especially with the seeds.

have you ever gotten 5 days pain free time from a shot of imitrex?

Seed potency varies greatly. On an average, HBWR are 5 to 8 times more potent than RCs. if I remember correctly, the CB website suggests starting at TWO HBWR.

We've had Rivea Corymbosa seeds analyzed by a lab and some seeds contained exactly zero LSA. That is one reason you hope to get an average dose from those seeds.

When you open the HBWR, you can more easily tell if they are fresh and more likely to have a full compliment of LSA. There is no way of telling with the RCs.

I understand people being hesitant about using the mushrooms.
Maybe consider coming to the Clusterbuster conference this year in Portland in August and you can introduce you wife to a bunch of busters and she'll see we're (for the most part) ordinary people, leading ordinary lives.

Psilocybe mushrooms have been used for thousands of years for medicinal purposes. They would actually be one of the least toxic medications you'd ever used. You would have to eat your body weight in mushrooms, in one sitting, to get close to a lethal dose.
Try eating just one pound of Tylenol.

Not trying to convince anyone, just supplying facts for a discussion.

Bobw

Wow!, I mean Damn!, I mean F**kin'A!

I don't want to jump the gun reporting this, so take it with a grain of salt but I think we may have crossed a line here. I've been disappointed that Michael hasn't been able to extend his PF time, regardless of the size of dose he's taken. Same ol', same ol' - headache, dose, 3-4 days PF, headache again. Not this time.

He took a lot this last time: 4.25g. But he seemed to have the same reaction (or so we thought). This is the 7th day after dosing and he isn't interested at all in doing it again yet! He's been headachy and feeling pretty gnarly since about the 4th day after - but it's different this time.

The 1st day after dosing, he dropped his methadone intake from 12 to 6/day. I think he's had some kind of bug because he's had a stomach ache and hasn't been eating worth a damn. Nor has he been sleeping well. As those things have worked themselves out, he's felt better and better. Till today when he tells me he's feeling pretty good and would like to take a hike! Far f**king out!

We're both pretty nervous and I think some advise here would be well received. So, whadda we do? Do we wait and see if the HA comes back or do we dose while he's feeling good? We're in new territory here and could use some guidance.

Cool, huh?

Ron

Ron,

That is AWESOME news man!  I would do what Bejeeber said and keep dosing as a preventative measure.  I'm not near Michaels state, but i'm convinced my maintenance dosing has kept the beast away further and further as the years go on since I have kept up with the seeds.  I know Michael uses psilocybin which to me seems to be more affective in treating CH, however since the lesser of the two in strenght being rc seeds works for me, that's why I don't need the psilo.  Keep up the good news coming.
Have a great weekend

Cheers,
Chad

At this point and knowing how you've been dosing, I don't think you would make the wrong decison no matter what you do as far as the next dose.
You could either wait it out and see how things go and how long he can go before needing the next dose.....or dose now. Either way and I think you'll be good to go.
If things are holding and not getting worse, or getting a little better each day. I'd probably hold off as long as possible. Thats the goal....to be able to go a LONG time between doses.

Bob

Nice work guys! 

You have an interesting study going on with psilocybes and methodone.  Wonder if anyone else around here is doing the same??  As time goes on we will have more info thanks to your work.  Keep track of it, someone else will need the help too.

Good luck! (smiley face for pain free) and a  (and a mean guy to ward off evil spirits)

--Shaggy

Thanks you guys. This is day #10 and not even an inkling! I think we'll dose at either the 1st inkling, the 1st hint or maybe just the 1st suggestion. Sound good?

Ron

bonkers wrote on May 3^rd, 2010 at 4:06pm:

Hey, fightguy -

Whadaya say me and you have a race? 1st guy to 100 days PF wins.

Ron