Chad,

Thanks for the advise. We'll report back to this forum with our results as they come in. You've all been a great help and inspiration. With a little luck I think we'll be able to get my son his life back.

Best,

Mike's Dad

Hi All,

Well, it's 4:30 here and the Eagle has landed. We ground up 30 of the little buggers (used a plastic, 2-piece, screw-together pill crusher - the only thing we had 'cause we didn't want to wait) which are now soaking in a small glass of room-temp., distilled H2O. We'll wait 2 hrs. and chug 'em down.

Mike's headache's pretty bad today (I guess it's always pretty bad) but his last methadone was about 4:00 this morning and he's not going to take his afternoon meds till after we see how the seeds work; we'll just have to wait and see how well this stuff works on top of the meds - I'm hopeful since he had good success with the LSD and that also was on top of the methadone. I'll come back on line about 7:30 and report.

Please keep your fingers crossed.

From everything I've heard, be prepared for the headaches to get a little worse before they get better.

Bonkers he most likely will feel no reaction at all from the seeds.

The seeds depending on the person may take from 15 to 40 minutes to have an affect on someone.
They are thought to be about 1/100th the strength of a small LSD dose but dont let that disuade you as they are very powerfull all the same in the work they do against CH. and serotonin adjustments

The low dose methadone probably creates a stronger though similar feeling. But the narcotics work on different receptors I think.

Bonkers,

I've been using the rc seeds for almost four years.

I'm episodic, with cycles every 12 to 18 months, each lasting for 8 to 16 weeks.  I know I am not, nor ever have been at the level your son is. 

When my cycle began, I ground up 35 seeds in a pepper grinder, soaked them in a shot glass of warm water for 2 hours, then chugged down the tea along with the small amount of what I call "sludge" in the bottom of the glass.  It's not the tastiest thing, but at 35 seeds I experienced absolutely no "high" and it worked for me.

I did have a couple of pretty bad hits for the next few days, but waited 5 days (some of us don't wait that long) before taking another 35 seed dose.  My cycle completely stopped the day after that second dose.

Another cycle a year later tried to start, and it only took one 35 seed dose to stop it.

I've been completely pain free for over three years!

I can't answer whether your son's need for methadone falls within the detox drugs, but if you go to Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to or and go to their FAQ section, scroll down to section 4.1.2 which contains a pretty long list of meds that should, if at all possible be stopped before or while dosing.  This list is directed more toward mushroom therapy, but it might hold true with the rc seeds.

I am sincerely wishing that the seeds help Michael.  I can't remember seeing in this thread whether Mike has oxygen or not, so if I'm repeating something, please forgive me.  But, O2, with a non-rebreather mask and a regulator that flows at a minimum of 15 lpm (25 is better) has been proven to abort hits within minutes.  I highly recommend looking into O2 to help him through the hits that the seeds don't stop.

Please feel free to PM me and I'll help if I can.

Sandy

The closer the two treatments are together, the less effective the 2nd treatment will likely be.

MAPS.org

CC2004, thanks to the support and information supplied by the great folks on this forum, Michael is doing much better. He had a pretty tough day today but not like those he used to have. Had his next dose of r.c. seeds today. With a repeat performance of the day after his last dose - and a little luck - tomorrow should be much better. Thanks for your interest - and for the bump.

TV has got to be the best way to get noticed surely.  What's the count on this thread?  Surely one of the TV networks would love to have a story on something as juicy and contraversial as this - 60 minutes or ...?  A well constructed letter could be just the thing.  Any CH lawyers been counted?  I certainly have known a few who enjoyed the recreational use 

BTW any chance someone could record that show for me on VHS?  I have never seen a thing on TV about CH here in NZ!

bonkers wrote on Nov 4^th, 2009 at 5:39pm:


bonkers, you might want to try upping the dose.  I know a lot of people have had success with 30-35 seeds but that never hit the spot for me.  I've been taking RC seeds for the past 3 years and 100 seems to be the magic number for me with very minor side effects.  I know that might seem excessive but everyone's body is different.

Also, make sure he waits the full 5 days before taking another dose. 

slacker032 wrote on Nov 10^th, 2009 at 1:23pm:


After hearing that, if I was in Michael's ultra critical condition  I'm sure I'd be taking the whole bag in one go (usually 200 or so seeds I believe when you order a quantity of 100).

Please do update us with what is going to Michael how he responds, also if the RC seeds fail at that dose, I red about histamine desinsetization helping also, try to read about it on internet.