Wondered if anyone had any thoughts on the angina/CH remission issues? I have an appt. booked for later in the month to do a treadmill/ECG test, so should get more info then. However, in the last two weeks, and especially in the last week, I've had almost complete cessation of the 'angina' symptoms. I've been taking a daily aspirin as suggested by the GP, but could it really have that dramatic an effect already?

Anyway, here's the abstract of the article I found that piqued my interest in angina and CH:

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We report on eight patients with episodic CH and coexistent effort-induced angina pectoris. Cases 1-6 had been free of their headaches for many years but got recurrence of CH within a few weeks after the administration of long-acting organic nitrates (isosorbide-dinitrate, isosorbide-5-mononitrate or slow-release GTN) aimed at treating their chest pains. These nitrate-induced headache periods were more severe and had a longer duration than the previous spontaneous ones. Furthermore, one of the subjects and two additional cases experienced a marked reduction of their anginal attacks during successive CH periods.

[size=18][/size]I think that I will wait until the FDA approves hallucinogenics before trying them.  There are very valid reasons that LSD, etc., are illegal and until they are legal and are a proven method of "curing" CH, taking psychodelic drugs can have some very serious medical problems-I think that the 1970s proved that.  I agree with you 100% Michael.

Patiently Waiting,

Yikes! Some thread...

FWIW, I shortened my last cluster (October 97?) just after "mid-term" with RC seeds. Had a whopper the day after dosing...but could tell something was going on.

Just starting a new cluster, and hit it with seed tea last Sunday. Nothing till today and I'll dose again in an hour or so. Will the seeds be the savior for me? Way too soon to tell, but I can find no reason not to try--since I am immoral and unethical and criminal.

I know this is true because there is a little hand-written note on the legally purchased 1000 seed packet saying "Not for human consumption." ;)

FTR, Bob, your original post was not at all abrasive, quite the opposite,  and it's great to see all the supportive posts. Whether the seeds do the trick or not I would like to publicly give thanks as well. You gently and succinctly answered my 1997 emails apparently simply out of the goodness of your heart. Pretty sure I know what do do this time around--if my seeds from a 18 months ago are still good...;)

(and I've ordered a O2ptimask as well--O2 works wonders for me as does exercise)

Your work has probably helped more people in more important ways than anybody I can think of. Of course, I hang out with fellow criminals, so you don't have a lot of competition, but still...;)

Cheers,
Kirt

Hi all,
I read a little on this subject back last year but put it to the back of my mind because although I do have a problem with illegal substances I was newly diagnosed after about 14 yrs suffering and hadn't even been given 02.  Since then i have tried verapamil which turned me into a zombie with a killer headache on top of my CH and migraine.  I was supposed to get a flu jab and turned up at the docs and they refused to give it to me and then admitted me, I was in such a shape!  Now I'm on Epilim which has reduced the attacks that last for days on end.  However I still get kip 5 or 6 pretty much every day about tea time and a kip 8 or above once a week.  i use 02, sumatriptan tablets and injections.  I tried cold showers, hot showers, energy drinks, coffee, can't even contemplate exercise and cannot leave my bedroom.
I recently came off the Epilim as Inhave outlined in my recent post entitled contraceptive link. The beast pounced and I realised I need the Epilim to cope.  However I still am like a zombie every night.  I'm fed up of missing putting my little lad to bed and being able to help my 16 yr old with her GCSE revision etc.  I cannot hold down a job as it stands and am feeling worthless.  As I said the Epilim is approx halfing it so I do feel lucky to a certain extent...and feel guilty in a way that I want to feel better.  I feel that I have fought hard to get this much relief so maybe I should just accept and be grateful.  Or maybe that's my excuse for not having the guts to try the seeds etc? 
I am so interested in this and believe people have relief and wish I could make myself try it.  My main problem is that it's illegal.  Most of the posters here are in America and I read that some states have it legal for meds, that's not so here in the UK.  Although in my area I'm pretty sure I could get it easily.  The other problem Im have is that my ex was a regular user of cannabis, mushrooms, and it ended badly because of his paranoia, violence etc.  Also my mother is a drug addict, I have seen her in some terrible states, high, suicidal, she's bloated, her teeth have fallen out from rubbing drugs in her gums, suffers from bad vomiting and gets hospitalised, and she's a morphine and methadone addict.  I know some will point out that seeds and shrooms are not the drugs my experience is with, but in my head I just see a title of illegal drugs and think of the state of my mother.  I kinow if I took the step to take seeds or shrooms to help my CH I wouldn't be the same as my mother but I have a massive hurdle to jump in my head.
As soon as I finish this post I'm going to clusterbusters to re read the info.  But I am so scared to take this step yet so eager.
x

Howdy Folks.

Been a while. I just had to make a post here. I started reading the clusterbuster site a few years back and one day a couple years ago i said what the hell, and ordered some spores.  I grew them in my basement cellar, dried them and vacuum packed to be saved for my next cycle.  a few months later i was having, what I believe to be shadows. I went straight to the mushrooms and grapped one small cap, chewed it up and that has been it for ch for almost two years now. I just keep doing that same thing. If i feel the slightest bit like i am having a shadow, I eat 1 small peice. To this day i may have had to eat them maybe 5 times.  There is definately something to this. I was an imetrex junkie till now! No more 4 vials a day. 

It may be illegal, but who the hell cares. If it works. If they made imitrex illegal, would you stop using it if you had access to some?

Just my opinion.     Can somebody from clusterbusters drop me an e-mail when they get a chance I have a quick question.


Chris

Im kinda going  thourgh some of the same things beth. I get shadows from time to time, I do my seeds every six weeks or so and i have not gotten 1 hit above a small kip 6. I truely hope this is the anwser for me. ( knock wood, Wait, where's some wood? Where's the GOSH DARN WOOD!!?? someone please give me some wood.)

                                           Coach Bill

Hey josh,

Not sure if its the same for everyone, but when I use them, the amount is so small that I feel absolutely no effect from it at all. And from what I've read there should be no need to take near the amount a recreational drug user would to get the "HIGH" from it.

Chris

I got Chris on a PM
Us Canadians gotta stick together.  'Eh.   

Doug

Pinkfloyd wrote on Mar 26^th, 2009 at 11:46pm:


well, guess it goes to show i didn't know the whole story before i posted. i was under the impression that you actually needed to do more to achieve the desired effect.

edit x2 - sorry guys, i read a lot more on the subject and now have a completely different opinion.

on another note, has anyone heard of someone getting busted for trying to treat their CH's? lol

mezza wrote on Mar 27^th, 2009 at 11:09pm:



uh no... not me.... I think you should go to the clusterbusters website and read a little more to gain a better understanding.  I am not sure you have it quite yet.


Kelly [/quote]

see above 'edit'

im a little late on this one.....after i read that shroomz worked keeping the beast at bay we found chris some shroomz. we ate them and ive had like 4 hits since then. i feel if i dose again i will knock this one out. last year i ate shroomz for 4 months, just for fun, and i didnt have a cycle. this year i had a cycle start and i aborted it with 1 dose 3 months into the cycle. after all ive been through, im sold on the shroomz. i never want to take another pill as long as i live. besides, my body cant take anymore. clusterbusting is the way to go in my opinion.

I can and will stand up and be counted.  Here's my story, not unlike many before me.  I spent 14 years of my life a chronic.  I tried every possible remedy suggested by the 4 neurologists, 2 pain management Drs., 1 anesthesiologist, 2 different styles of acupuncturist, internists etc.   I visited.  There were so many prescriptions I actually lost count and sadly, the only relief, a temporary one at that was the prednisone.  We all know that party must end almost as soon as it's started. I was at my wits end when I went for the Occipital nerve block. The first one didn't work though the crunching under my scalp was an interesting experience, the second time (was I crazy to try again) I was injected with Botox. Again, no luck.  It was on this board approximately 2 years ago that I saw mention of Dr. John Halpern, research using psychedelics as a preventative remedy. I did contact Dr. Halpern and was introduced to Clusterbusters.  Here's the facts, I was scared to try mushrooms, I was worried about the legalities, at the time I had teenage children at home, my wife councils children in the high schools system with drinking and drugging problems, I could see all the reasons not to try, but I was sick, real sick with cluster episodes 4-6 times each day.  The quality of my life was gone and when I wasn't in excruciating pain I was worked up and worried knowing my next cluster was soon to arrive.  Sound familiar? Frightened and wondering if I could actually last a week with out any medications I bit the bullet had one of the worst weeks in my life and started the mushrooms in low doses. It took 4 doses, each 5 days apart before I showed any signs of success.  First I passed a time where I always had a cluster, then a day and on and on until I went 4 months pain free.  Interestingly, I broke a finger and that physical stress brought on a cycle.  I made some mushroom tea and again, after a few doses I was headache free.  I now am on a maintenance program and the clusters stay away.  No more trex injections, prednisone or blocks.  Oh and by the way I did discuss this with the family and there response was clear... they would rather I try anything including breaking the law than to watch me bang my head, scream and cry, pull my hair out and think of ending it all.  Good luck to all of you that read this message, perhaps mushrooms are worth try.