Hello to all fellow suffers out there, my name is Bill Roberts i live in Cleveland Ohio. Ever since i was in my mid 20s i would get these monster HA at night, they would last about 1 hour and wake me from a dead sleep only to have me on my knees 15minutes later crying in pain like a 10 year old boy. They would go away after a couple of months and stay gone for what seem like years, only to jump right back into my life and destroy me as a man. I could never stop thinking it was from the partying i did as a kid, so when the last blast of this shit wouldnt let me go and i thought that this was it, i desepratly reached out to find anything that could help me go on. Thats when i met bob, and he told me about clusterbusters.com and anwsered all my questions so i was not worried at all about trying this, because what the doc had planned for me was much worse. so i ordered RC seeds and followed some advice, and the next day when i woke up i just knew they were gone!! I can say with 1000% percent truthfull words that these seeds ended those headaches!! I now stand here today medicene free, i take nothing, not one perscription drug!!! Sure i got a rouge hit ONCE and my 02 tanks are covered in dust. So i just want to say to anyone hurtin from this god awful bullshit that this is something you must consider to end your battle with CH. Thank you again Bob for waking me up from the nightmare i was living for the past 20 years, I can never repay you for how your site has given me my life back but only by trying to help another suffer i feel like i have tried to give back. Count me.   Coach bill

cash5542 wrote on Jun 26^th, 2008 at 10:37pm:


I forgot to tell you that all dates must fill out a clusterbuster questionaire, and supply us with references, to make sure we approve of her dates. And don't be suprised if we all wait up until she gets home safe and sound.  

Just wanted to thank everyone for posting your stories and comments. It's one of the things that keep us all motivated to carry on.

Bobw

OK,  I just read every post on this thread and I am appalled by some of the comments.  The word illegal keeps coming up.  
Ethical and moral; that is your decision, but unless your slate is clean (and I only know of one) don't talk to me about illegal.  I would eat the crap rooms grow in if I thought it would stop one attack.
When I found this site over a year ago I WAS SUICIDAL from my pain, and guess what, that is illegal.  Drinking below the age of 21 is illegal, but how many of you did that?  
Want further testing ?  Ask damn near any person (except the ones bitching) below the age of 40 and they will tell you the results.  Ask the manager or the president of the company and if they are honest a lot of them will tell you.  They took it in a lot larger doses than it takes for a CH and guess what; they are still around, they still have a brain (maybe some managers don't) and they are not hooked.
My wife is a very religous, ethical, and moral person; to her there are no shades of grey; it is right or wrong, legal or illegal, but she is all for me using this form of treatment in an attempt to stop my suffering.
This stuff ain't new, sports fans; it has been around for centuries, and thousands of mostly young people are trying it every day.  Hell, they get to see the pink elephants and we don't.  They do it for recreation and we do it for survival.  
Talk about research, If you think I haven't done my homework you can think again. I am 60 years old, retired owner of a very successful business, and don't have time or patience for nonsense.
You get off your soap box and I will get off of mine.  Remember what this website was designed for; A SUPPORT GROUP FOR CLUSTER HEADACHE SUFFERERS. No matter what I do or what I try if you are a true supporter then you will support my efforts.  If not, then I am on the wrong website, and I will keep searching.
I thank God for those that called me after my first post or I would not be writing this today.  Now that is what this whole thing is about; HELPING OTHERS!
Now go ahead and tear this post apart since you evidently have never been in my shoes.

Eddie - "Unethical" and "immoral" are grey areas. "Illegal," by comparison, is not. "Illegal" is merely a statement of fact. A moral or ethical act may still present issues with the law, and unethical or immoral acts may be perfectly legal.

It is illegal to posess or ingest psilocybin, period. It is perfectly legal to posess or grow morning glories, but it is illegal to ingest the seeds. One cannot even obtain a legal prescription for either of these in the US. Some people will not risk losing their careers, homes, etc. by taking the chance. That's all.

And I didn't have to climb up on a soapbox to say that.

Eddie - Perhaps you're missing my point. It is simply this: for some, the fact that it is illegal is reason enough not to do it. I don't have a problem with anyone else utilizing this method. I find it neither unethical nor immoral. In my mind it is not wrong. It is simply illegal.

Yes, everyone can choose. But then everyone must be prepared to deal with the consequences. Plain and simple. In my case, I am not prepared to deal with the potential legal problems this course of action might send my way. Others are. More power to them and to you.

Do I wish it wasn't a felony? You bet I do. In the meantime, I get by with what's available to me legally. I cast no aspersions, and I do not judge those who take the risk.

One other thing - I would like to see one thread - just one - in the history of ch.com that contains only facts and no comments. I don't think there is such an animal.

I agree with Eddie - If it works, who gives a crap if it is legal or not.

Well Bob.. I'm sure you knew that this thread would veer off course, just the mention of this topic is fodder for debate/controversy.

However, I think its wonderful that there are so many finding relief, and are able to use this method of treatment for getting back their lives, and their sanity.  

Keep on truckin'! (even though that saying is really way before my time)

Pepp

I would also like to add that tryptamines are NOT commonly tested for in a  workplace drug screen they generally test for opiates methamphetamine cannabis cocaine and PCP......It costs more to test for other drugs and god forbid if it cuts into the bottom line....or maybe they can use some sub standard test from china.....but either way if it works for you legality is not an issue....PFDAN

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I completely understand and respect your reasons for not taking the alternative route. 

Beth

Brew, i also understand your thoughts, and im the sole income for my family as well. I work for a place that is a clean and drug free workplace, you can be tested at any time. In my 10 years there i have been tested 2 times, but not since i have tried the RC seed method, but like we both said were the sole income, and during my last battle with ch i had to revert to the family medicial leave act to save my job because of missed work time, and that put a big damper on my familys income, frankly it hurt us bad. Since ive been doing regular doses now i have not missed a single day of work since. but for me it was no chioce, eithier be fired for a drug test i belive wont even show it, or just lose it because im unable to keep a job while im in cycle like i was. thanks for reading. coach bill

OK gang,  after fighting the demon almost hourly for the past three weeks I took my 1st  "dose" at 2 PM.  Nothing, not even a twinge did I feel, but guess what;  IT HAS BEEN 9 HOURS AND NO HEADACHE!!!!!!!!
I'm hitting the shower and crawling into my own bed for the 1st time in three weeks.  I pray that when morning comes I will wake from my first nights sleep in a long, long time.
I will keep you posted

Got an e-mail.  I didn't mean 3 weeks without a shower. I guess I worded that sentence wrong!!!!!!
Having a few hits, but found out some other medicines I take may have had a effect on this.
Tapering off of them.
Had one great nights sleep with no hits; it was wonderful!