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Cluster Headache Help and Support >> Medications, Treatments, Therapies >> Vitamin a in the d3 regime http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1414364986 Message started by BRODE on Oct 26th, 2014 at 7:09pm |
Title: Vitamin a in the d3 regime Post by BRODE on Oct 26th, 2014 at 7:09pm
I have a question for Batch. My multi vitamin has Vitamin A (beta carotin) is that the same as retinal. I have everything else but b- 50 and if the A is not the correct one than I am missin that. I cannot find a vitamin A specifically labeled retinal.
Thank you for all that you have done. P.S. I am waiting to get my blood work done so I am doing the 10,000 iu of D3 until I can get the blood work done. |
Title: Re: Vitamin a in the d3 regime Post by blacklab on Oct 27th, 2014 at 12:58am
Hi brode,
just from my perspective and batch will come in with the correct technical stuff. the amount of vit A in the Kirkland multi that we take should do the job, mine is vit A acetate 25oo iu which is then converted to a retinol value. I am currently also taking an extra vit A supplement, which is vit A 5000 iu palmitate which equates to 1500ug retinol equivalent. it is these values that convert back to retinol. I know that Vit A is extremely important, even at a gene level as far as vit D goes with our regime so just like the 3 month course of Vit B that batch recommends, im just giving my self a boost of vit A to see what difference it makes. I forget off hand what the maximum intake of beta carotin vit A is, but batch confirmed what I was taking was fine, im sure he will post up the correct info for you. hope I haven't confused the matter.... regards colin |
Title: Re: Vitamin a in the d3 regime Post by BRODE on Oct 27th, 2014 at 11:36am
Thank you for the info.
Here is what I am taking as of two days ago. Sat I took 22000 iu of D3 multi vitamin V-A Beta Carotin 5000 iu V-3 225 mg V-D3 400 iu V-E 75 iu V-K 50 mcg V-B6 75 mg V-B12 100 mcg Calcium 270mg Magnesium 200mg Omega 3 2400 and a protien shake my wife made which included Spinich, Almond milk, honey, bannanas, blue berries, orange juice, coconut oil,and protien powder I had a ch that nigh but not as bad and a mild ch when I woke up in the morning. Sunday 10000 iu of D3 multi vitamin V-A Beta Carotin 5000 iu V-3 225 mg V-D3 400 iu V-E 75 iu V-K 50 mcg V-B6 75 mg V-B12 100 mcg Calcium 270mg Magnesium 200mg Omega 3 2400 V-A 8000 iu (made from fish) and a protien shake my wife made which included Spinich, Almond milk, honey, bannanas, blue berries, orange juice, coconut oil,and protien powder No CH last night. I hope that this is the end of my CH. |
Title: Re: Vitamin a in the d3 regime Post by Batch on Oct 27th, 2014 at 3:02pm
Hey Brode,
Thanks for the update. It appears you're starting to respond... That looks like a nutrient rich mix of the right supplements and food types... You're not out of the woods yet as you're going to need a regimen like this for weeks to get your 25(OH)D up around 80 ng/mL. You'll also need a continual intake like this year-round to keep your 25(OH)D at this serum concentration. That's the only way I know this regimen is capable of preventing CH effectively and continue to do so. 25(OH)D has a half-life of two weeks without further vitamin D3 supplements. The few chronic CH'ers, myself included, who stopped taking this regimen fell out of remission in 7 to 10 days. It's no different for episodic CH'ers if they're still in cycle. Take care and please keep us posted. V/R, Batch |
Title: Re: Vitamin a in the d3 regime Post by Don B on Oct 27th, 2014 at 4:51pm
Hi Batch, I am on the accelerated loading schedule for one more week, with the super dose being Tuesday. I will then back it down to 15,000 for two weeks and then the maintenance dose. I know it will vary from person to person, but in your experience, is there a typical response to this regimen given my level of 25 ? concern for toxicity ? I'm not too concerned about that; just want to get a feel for perhaps a typical response to the regimen with a baseline of 25, I expect to have more labs done in two weeks do you typically see an increase in 3 weeks that will bring the level from 25 into at least the 80's ? also, a history of kidney stones, any adverse reactions that you know of on the regimen ? By the way thanks so much for everything minimal CH's in the past week aborted with oxygen
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