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Message started by JessieD on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 10:59am

Title: Just diagnosed 8 months ago...
Post by JessieD on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 10:59am
Hi all... I was just diagnosed with Clusters 8 months ago by a headache specialist here in Dayton. Thank goodness my General Practitioner knew he didn't know enough to help me.  :)

I am 36, married with two kids.  I have always suffered from sinus and tension headaches and have always had chronic allergy issues.  So as my headaches got worse as I got older, I just wrote them off as my sinuses acting up more.  Then the migraines started (about 6 years ago) and I knew this wasn't just the sinuses anymore.

Then.... then.... the excruciating, debilitating Clusters began (about 18 months ago). I had done a bit of research myself online about various types of headaches and Clusters seemed to fit a little better than anything else.

So now, after 8 months of treatment, I have a diagnosis of 'Chronic paroxysmal hemicranial clusters in a migraine pattern'.  My doctor calls me his "Little one-in-a-million". (I guess I should be pleased?) My headaches come in a migraine pattern and typically follow my estrogen levels which scream migraines BUT they are hemicranial with ice-pick to the eyeball pain, my nose clogs up, my left eye droops, and the only way I get any semblance of relief is to go for a run.  I can't lie down. I can't close the blinds. Silence does nothing more for me than not. I have pulled clumps of my hair out.  I have scraped my forehead against our living room carpet (giving myself rug burns... it was attractive) to attempt to get rid of the pain.

My headaches also come on at a level 10 and always wake me out of my sleep between 1-3am.  Then, over the course of the next few days, they will hit me every few hours and decrease in intensity.  Typically my patterns last for 3-4 days.  This all happens twice per month... estrogen up and estrogen down.

I am taking Indomethacin on a daily basis - anywhere between 2 and 4 pills per 24hrs.  I also am on Imitrex injections as well and had to use one just last night.

I'm here for support and understanding most of all.  My husband has NEVER had a headache to speak of and doesn't suffer from any allergies.  I made him go with me to my first specialist appointment so he could see that I wasn't crazy.  I think he is starting to understand as he did stay up and walk around the house with me during my episode last night and did ask if I needed another injection this morning. So maybe I'm making progress.  Although I'd rather never get a headache again than teach him how to understand them. :)

Title: Re: Just diagnosed 8 months ago...
Post by Bob Johnson on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 12:23pm
It appears that you are still working with the primary care doc. If this is so, suggest you seek a headache specialist (given the complexity of your situation).
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LOCATING HEADACHE SPECIALIST

1. Search the OUCH site (button on left) for a list of recommended M.D.s.


2. Yellow Pages phone book: look for "Headache Clinics" in the M.D. section and look under "neurologist" where some docs will list speciality areas of practice.

3.  Call your hospital/medical center. They often have an office to assist in finding a physician. You may have to ask for the social worker/patient advocate.

4. START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or RegisterEND PRINTPAGE; On-line screen to find a physician.

5. START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or RegisterEND PRINTPAGE Look for "Physician Finder" search box. They will send a list of M.D.s for your state.I suggest using this source for several reasons: first, we have read several messages from people who, even seeing neurologists, are unhappy with the quality of care and ATTITUDES they have encountered; second, the clinical director of the Jefferson (Philadelphia) Headache Clinic said, in late 1999, that upwards of 40%+ of U.S. doctors have poor training in treating headache and/or hold attitudes about headache ("hysterical female disorder") which block them from sympathetic and effective work with the patient; third, it's necessary to find a doctor who has experience, skill, and a set of attitudes which give hope of success. This is the best method I know of to find such a physician.

6. START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or RegisterEND PRINTPAGE NEW certification program for "Headache Medicine" by the United Council for Neurologic Subspecialties, an independent, non-profit, professional medical organization.
        Since this is a new program, the initial listing is limited and so it should be checked each time you have an interest in locating a headache doctor.
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You do not mention being on a preventive medication. That is in order, regardless of the specific Dx. Suggest you print this protocol and give to your doc and discuss your treatment options. Point being: using an abortive only leaves you unprotected. The preventive med works for the long run to reduce/block attacks.
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Headache. 2004 Nov;44(10):1013-8.   


Individualizing treatment with verapamil for cluster headache patients.

Blau JN, Engel HO.


    Background.-Verapamil is currently the best available prophylactic drug for patients experiencing cluster headaches (CHs). Published papers usually state 240 to 480 mg taken in three divided doses give good results, ranging from 50% to 80%; others mention higher doses-720, even 1200 mg per day. In clinical practice we found we needed to adapt dosage to individual's time of attacks, in particular giving higher doses before going to bed to suppress severe nocturnal episodes. A few only required 120 mg daily. We therefore evolved a scheme for steady and progressive drug increase until satisfactory control had been achieved. Objective.-To find the minimum dose of verapamil required to prevent episodic and chronic cluster headaches by supervising each individual and adjusting the dosage accordingly. Methods.-Consecutive patients with episodic or chronic CH (satisfying International Headache Society (IHS) criteria) were started on verapamil 40 mg in the morning, 80 mg early afternoon, and 80 mg before going to bed. Patients kept a diary of all attacks, recording times of onset, duration, and severity. They were advised, verbally and in writing, to add 40 mg verapamil on alternate days, depending on their attack timing: with nocturnal episodes the first increase was the evening dose and next the afternoon one; when attacks occurred on or soon after waking, we advised setting an alarm clock 2 hours before the usual waking time and then taking the medication. Patients were followed-up at weekly intervals until attacks were controlled. They were also reviewed when a cluster period had ended, and advised to continue on the same dose for a further 2 weeks before starting systematic reduction. Chronic cluster patients were reviewed as often as necessary. Results.-Seventy consecutive patients, 52 with episodic CH during cluster periods and 18 with chronic CH, were all treated with verapamil as above. Complete relief from headaches was obtained in 49 (94%) of 52 with episodic, and 10 (55%) of 18 with chronic CH; the majority needed 200 to 480 mg, but 9 in the episodic, and 3 in the chronic group, needed 520 to 960 mg for control. Ten, 2 in the episodic and 8 in the chronic group, with incomplete relief, required additional therapy-lithium, sumatriptan, or sodium valproate. One patient withdrew because verapamil made her too tired, another developed Stevens-Johnson syndrome, and the drug was withdrawn. Conclusions.-Providing the dosage for each individual is adequate, preventing CH with verapamil is highly effective, taken three (occasionally with higher doses, four) times a day. In the majority (94%) with episodic CH steady dose increase under supervision, totally suppressed attacks. However in the chronic variety only 55% were completely relieved, 69% men, but only 20% women. In both groups, for those with partial attack suppression, additional prophylactic drugs or acute treatment was necessary. (Headache 2004;44:1013-1018).

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SLOW-RELEASE VERAPAMIL

Dr. Sheftell applauded the protocol for verapamil used by Dr. Goadsby and colleagues, which entailed use of short-acting verapamil in increments of 80 mg. “This method was suggested by Lee Kudrow, MD, 20 years ago as an alternative to slow-release verapamil,” Dr. Sheftell noted.

“I would agree with using short-acting verapamil, rather than the sustained-release formulation, in cluster headache,” he said. “I prefer the short-acting formulation with regard to ability to titrate more accurately and safely. My clinical experience anecdotally demonstrates improved responses when patients are switched from sustained-release verapamil to short-acting verapamil.”

Dr. Goadsby agreed that his clinical experience was similar. “There are no well-controlled, placebo-controlled, dose-ranging studies to direct treatment. This is one of those areas where clinicians who treat cluster headache have to combine what modicum of evidence is available with their own clinical experience,” Dr. Sheftell commented.
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Also print out the PDF file, below, and give to him.

http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?action=downloadfile;file=THERAPIES-_Headache_2011.pdf (96 KB | 16 )

Title: Re: Just diagnosed 8 months ago...
Post by JessieD on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 1:13pm
Hi Bob - thanks for responding.  I am actually working with a headache specialist now and have been for the 8 months.

Title: Re: Just diagnosed 8 months ago...
Post by Jeannie on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 1:24pm
Hi Jessie,

Sounds like you've got a lot going on.  Has your Dr. mentioned oxygen?   I can abort a CH in sometimes 5 minutes using a high flow rate and my Optimask. 


Title: Re: Just diagnosed 8 months ago...
Post by Alex Gingell on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 2:34pm
Have you tried water? Simply tap water and lots of it for a sustained period. I suffered for 14 years and it was hell!! Now clear for nearly 6 years because of water. Drink drink drink 6ltrs a day for a week, then 3ltrs a day. My life has now changed hugely with 3 businesses and 5 kids - loving every minute of it now. I'm 40 yo now. Believe me I tried ergotamine, steroids, verapamil, Oxygen even cold baths and saunas, but nothing worked - just tap water! Chin up and you WILL get through this.

Title: Re: Just diagnosed 8 months ago...
Post by Alex Gingell on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 2:39pm
...and it was Dr Blau who I was under for 8 years (the guy who wrote the piece on verapamil). He died a few years back and Anne McGreggor has filled his shoes. I have spoken with her at length and she recommended I come on these sites to try and help people.

Title: Re: Just diagnosed 8 months ago...
Post by JessieD on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 3:24pm
Thanks Jeanne - yes, my doc did mention O2 at one point but figured that if the Indo and Imitrex injections were working, then let's go with that for a while.  BUT now with last night's episode, I'm thinking I'll be revisiting that with him at my appointment next week.

Water, water, water! I did just read one members post about water here a few hours ago.  I drink a lot as it is but I am definitely going to try to up that even more.

Title: Re: Just diagnosed 8 months ago...
Post by RichardN on Mar 27th, 2012 at 6:02am
Hi Jessie and Welcome

  I came here 2/02, after 13 months of tests, non-working meds, having 6-8  attacks daily, sometimes 3-5 at night, Kip 5-9, most 20-45 min and the occasional 1 1/2 - 2 hr+ horror.  After my wife found this site for me, I copied pages of info and took to my doc and finally got started having some control of this beast of ours.  Initially I started on Verapamil (as preventive) and Oxygen as abortive . .  . the 02 is a miracle for most of us and if used at the onset of attack at the proper flow rate and proper mask was able to avoid many a "dance".

  Water therapy (see "water X3" . . . link on left).  Post surgery and prior to chemo 5/04, I stopped taking the Verapamil.  My attacks had reduced in frequency/intensity to a level I could control with the 02 . . .rarely going above Kip 5 (unless I was delayed getting to my tank/mask).  Finally accepted it was the water I was required to consume to prevent UTIs (have had several) . . . IT IS NOT EASY TO DO . . . and if I slacked-up on water intake drastically, would get slammed with a series of nasty attacks.

   After dealing with the beast for eleven years, I have now been painfree for 4 1/2 months due to the D3 regimen . . . definitely worth a try.

  Glad you found us .  . . keep reading . . . keep asking.


     Be Safe,    PFDANs


       Richard

Title: Re: Just diagnosed 8 months ago...
Post by JessieD on Mar 27th, 2012 at 1:34pm
Thank you Richard and congratulations on your 4 1/2 months pain-free!

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