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Cluster Headache Help and Support >> Medications, Treatments, Therapies >> Been to doctor to talk about O2, verapamil, rb etc http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1277209955 Message started by RuVa on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 8:32am |
Title: Been to doctor to talk about O2, verapamil, rb etc Post by RuVa on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 8:32am
Hey all,
it's been a while since my last post but I'm back with an update. Previous week's Tuesday I went to my housedoctor to talk about a possible switch from topamax to verapamil, the possible use of O2 during an attack and drinking red bull. I sent her a mail with info I found on this site. After talking things through with some of her collegues this is the result of that meeting: - Taking Verapamil can only be taken while under surveilance by a cardiologist. So >> meeting with neuro coming up and needs to be discussed with him in accordance with a cardiologist. No further information only that verapamil can actually have quite a bunch of negative side effects as well. Since topamax is really causing so many issues, I want to try anything else but I don't want to replace one issue with another. My sparkling excitement has been slapped in the face but well... I still have an appointment with the neuro coming up so we'll see. - My doctor is a very good listener. She did question having a huge oxygen tank in the garage, while I might only have 1 cluster period in the year anyway... + what if I run out of oxygen in the weekend? I won't just get extra oxygen overnight. It seems it's not so easy getting small portable oxygen thingies either so I need to look up a bit about that. Either way, she said I should definately talk about that with my neuro and if I really want it, she'll do whatever she can to get me an oxygen tank. She knows companies that provide them so... - She actually told me off when I told her I started drinking red bull. Lol, she's funny. Haha, anyways... She doubted it would help + it's not very healthy. However, it seems to me it does help. It seems to really take away some of the feelings I have in my head... I don't know... I don't drink them every day and I only started a week and a half ago with the red bull but the times I've been drinking it I've felt at elast temporary relief from all the buzzes in the head. - Then we discussed which neuro to go to... I told her I'm ok with the one I have now, but I'm affraid that I'll do my story and he'll be like... whatever... what you say is not true... He acted like that last time, or at least that's how it seemed to me. So she told me to contact another neuro. A pretty young guy but according to her a very good one. Someone who really listens and someone you can go into discussion with. I think that last part is really important! She said he's a person I can definately tell everything I learned on this site. I'm really looking forward to visiting this guy. Don't know when yet. I think I'll call this Friday to make an appointment. Cheers all, I hope you are all having some relief from the beast! |
Title: Re: Been to doctor to talk about O2, verapamil, rb etc Post by Guiseppi on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 9:36am
A doc who will sit and listen to you is worth their weight in gold. For the oxygen, I keep a little cart in my garage with 8 E-Tanks. My oxygen supplier, APRIA, does next day service. When I'm down to only 2 full tanks, I call, the next day they drop off a six pack of full ones. I've never used the larger tanks.
Good luck with the new neuro, here's to hoping he really is a good listener. Joe |
Title: Re: Been to doctor to talk about O2, verapamil, rb etc Post by wimsey1 on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 9:49am Quote:
I don't know about the others, however the advice I was given on this site, and to which I adhere, is the use of a caffeine/taurine drink at the onset or as close thereto as possible. I treat it like an abortive, not a prophylactic. Her reluctance to O2 and energy drinks may have more to do with her lack of knowledge concerning CHs, but if you hang in there with her, she'll learn. Blessings! lance |
Title: Re: Been to doctor to talk about O2, verapamil, rb etc Post by Lettucehead on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 8:28pm
your family dr. sound like a neat person and a good dr. A doc who actually spends time listening and respects the opinion and viewpoint of her patients is invaluable...
good luck to you!!!! It sounds like you're in a good partnership with your doc... |
Title: Re: Been to doctor to talk about O2, verapamil, rb etc Post by Callico on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 2:54am
I think you are on the right track with your Drs. I concur with your GP's suggestion of the new Neuro. Having one you can discuss matters with is essential for good treatment. Otherwise you are stuck with what they want to give you as opposed to what you have studied and believe you need. Don't take no for an answer without a rational explanation for the no.
If you are unable to convince your Dr to let you try Verap instead of the Topomax you might consider Kudzu. It is an herbal that is over the counter and some of us have had good success with it rather than the RX's. I had some success with Verap for a while, and more with Lithium added, but I couldn't handle the side effects of the Lithium and didn't like the listlessness brought on by Verap. Topomax and Depakote got no more than two dosages before I knew I couldn't handle them. I ended up weaning myself off the Verap and started easing into using Kudzu until I got up to a full dose of Kudzu/day and was off Verap totally. I found I was able to tolerate it MUCH better (the only side effect I noticed was a bit of gas) and I found I had as good a preventative as Verap and Lithium together. Each of us is different, and each of us reacts to meds differently, so you will need to experiment a bit to find what works for you, and then will probably have to do it again and again as the beast morphs on you over the years. That is why it is so important to keep reading up on things even when out of cycle. Always have a plan of action in mind for when you need to change. Jerry |
Title: Re: Been to doctor to talk about O2, verapamil, rb etc Post by RuVa on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 3:53am
Thanks all for the good luck wishes!
I feel happy with my doctor indeed, it looks good with the new neuro. I'm looking forward to the first meeting and I'll post an update later. Bob_Johnson, thx for all that info but the more I learn about verapamil the more scared I become of it. I'll make sure to have a decent talk about it with my neuro. I'll print out the info in your post just to make sure! Callico, I didn't hear of Kudzu before. I can live with gas :) Time to get revenge on some of my collegues ;D LOOL Well, it might be worth looking into anyways. the more info the better. But I can't try everything at once. I'll wait until I'm back from the neuro but the kudzu is surely noted! Thanks all for the support! Cheers, Ruben |
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