Anyone get this when they are severe?

You're the first.

       Potter

I don't, but apparently a fair percentage do.

Somewhere around 14 percent, according to this particular article.  YMMV.

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Best,

George

Our most recent cluster headache survey that completed in December of 2008 asked the question about symptoms occurring during cluster headache attacks and 403 out of 1134 (35.54 %) of the respondents listed nausea...

i've had some migraines make me feel that way. never ch

A gut full of cafergot would make me barf.  Good part was that hurling would always end the attack.

3 out of 7 of my family members often do, but that does not apply to the rest of us.  With that said, I did one time during a horrible cycle years ago, but I feel sure it was the medication.

This is the first time that I've experienced it in the 20 years of ch. Weird thing is, is that it happens weather I'm getting a hit or not. Sometimed just the shadow is enough.

It may not be CH itself, but a psychical reaction to bad experience which is CH but there is chance I am wrong.

It would happen to me during a particularly bad hit. Vomiting would be good for about 5 minutes relief. Hasn't happened to me recently. I'm now an 02 user and I can abort a CH in 10 minutes so they don't get that bad anymore.

I can remember it happening to me during an incredible several hours long high kip rager once - it felt like the pain induced it but some ergotamine inhaler junk I took very well may have contributed to it (this was before imitrex was available).

At the time I recall feeling like at least it was a diversion....welcome in a way, since it took my mind off the pain for a half minute or so.

Yes.. Without any meds and the O2 fails, when the pain reaches K-9. Sometimes for  5 min up to 30 min.

The vomiting makes the pain worse and doesn't signal the attacks end, I usually have an hour to go after. Sucks big time.

Don

Never had that problem with ch.  Migraines are a different story and I never felt better afterwards.  I hate puking..... :-[

Only when i took about 8 asprin then a couple of zomig, About 20 minutes later... YAK!!!

Coach Bill

Probably a good thing you yakked Bill. Sounds like too much of a good thing you were taking.

A bit slow to reply to this one, but I used to find that when the pain was really bad I would feel the need to vomit and sometimes would be PF much quicker. Luckily since using 02 I don't have this problem anymore.  ;)

Nancy,

LOL. If there was ever a asprin eating contest i would make those hot dog boys look silly.

Thanks for the laugh... coach bill

yes but there is nothing to throw up
except sometimes ...fluids(sorry)
maybe it's because i ve got an empty stomach
if and when it happens
full of coffee,energy drink and a pill?
don't know
but what i read about migraine
that throwing up makes you feel better
for ch it makes no difference at least for me

I've had CH since I was 10.  As a kid I would throw up after every hit but as I got older it only happened after very high kip level hits.   It usually meant that I was almost over it.  There was some discussion here about it maybe being related to the serotonin that is produced in the gut or a response to pain.   Now that I have 02 CH will never make me vomit again! 

Jeannie

I throw up almost every time the beast visits.  Sometimes I induce it myself because it decreases the pain and usually makes me feel better.  Sometimes the pain is just so bad, it just happens.  Either way I get nauseous when I get a CH.  After I get it all out of my system, I'm exhausted from the heaving and can usually falls asleep to get rid of the rest of the CH. 

Nada

It's happened only twice to me, and both times were kip 10's.

Only if the anxiety gets too high.
I've never experienced nausea with a pure cluster.
Like I said, the anxiety from a tremendous amount of pain could do it.
This happened to me yrs ago before effective treatment.

Rare but happens with right meds, kip and food or lack of combo.

I've had them since I was 14.  I didn't get sick until I was in my early 20's, the pain was so horrible.  The pain seemed to be escalating the older I got.  And when I was 27 was my first ER visit (prior to knowing it was CH).  I think the pain sets me off into sickness.  Ever since I found out I have CH & got the proper meds and O2, I can stop the headaches from getting full blown.  Therefore, haven't been sick since but twice (at 27, 5 yrs ago).

Angela

Hi, I'm 62 and have had CH since I was 19.  I was in my mid-fifties before I discovered 02 and Frovatriptan to ease the pain.  Previous to that I was sick every single time - constantly retching right through it, it was terrible, especially when my kids were little.  It used to last 6 - 8 weeks at a time in those days and about two episodes a year.  Nowadays I get a longer remission and shorter episodes and I have the 02 and Frova to help.  However two nights ago I had a rotten experience when NOTHING WORKED!  I take Domperidone to combat the sickness but it didn't work so I couldn't keep down the Frova and the 02 only works by itself for the first week so I was in big trouble.  It brought me to my knees for the first time in years.  I'm off to London on Wednesday to have my first GONB.  Wish me luck!

Dorothy

Dorothy wrote on Apr 9^th, 2010 at 1:04pm:

I take Domperidone to combat the sickness

Perhaps the pharmacist misread the prescription order. Mine reads:

"Take Dom Pérignon as needed for sickness."

Hahaaaaaaaah!  I never thought of that!  I'll get my prescription changed forthwith.....

What type of O2 setup do you have? NON-reabreather mask with a bag? A regulator that goes to at least 15lpm?

Good Luck,  Don

I have a non rebreather mask with a bag which I bought online and my 02 is delivered with a regulator which goes to 15 lpm.  But you know, I think the other night was a mixture of things.  I have a new mask and I don't think I was getting the 02 properly. I'm not quite used to it yet. I wasn't taking the correct doseage of Domperidone and I think I waited too long to take the Frova so my bad night might have been because I wasn't properly prepared.   I read on this site yesterday about someone who used his 02 for ten mins before bed and someone on the UK OUCH website was taking his Sumatriptan before sleep so I did both (only using Frova) and I had a great night's sleep.  I'm trying to get hold of a mouthpiece to get the 02 properly as I'm never happy with the masks.  Wish we had access to the 25 lpm regulator!  Sounds brill.

Regards, Dorothy

Not like a migraine where Im sick, but yes.  Sometimes the pain is so severe that I feel like I want to vomit, or the nasal drip down my throat makes me want to vomit... sometimes it's the meds.  Usually it's just the pain though, and a dry heave or two makes me feel, slightly, better.

Yes, but I'm also the type that throws up with anxiety, and extremely severe hits cause me great anxiety.

Mostly though I get sick when I took a medicine that causes it as a side effect.

Lithium in particular made me throw up so much I was downing that children's over the counter nausea reliever (flavored corn syrup) by the bottle full.

I get projectile vomitting (the kind that actually leads to vomitting blood by the third or fourth cycle) and severe purgative diarrhea.  There is something to this: I note several other posters felt that the vomitting gave them relief from the pain. That is my exact experience. 

The pain comes on like a locomitive, then the respiratory signs, followed by more waves of progressive pain, then the nausea and cramps occur very suddenly. Practically no warning whatsoever.  I tend to camp out in a washroom when the CH visits.  I hate the vomitting, but I know that it means that the headache is cresting. I will usually go through three or four cycles of cresting waves of pain, then purgation followed by a five minute respite where I usually just collapse on the floor and gasp in exhaustion. Then it starts all over again. 

I am not sure if the headache stops after the last purgation cycle or I merely collapse in complete exhaustion and the headache passes while I am unconscious.

It seems to me that more than a couple of posters here mentioned that the vomitting seemed to bring releif.

Not typical of clusters.

       Potter

been getting CH's for 15 years, I've been throwing up my last 2 cycles only. I've been through so many medecine changes/combos I can't find a common denominator.

I have thrown up in the past. It was always with the really big nasty hits (K9+). I could never figure out if it was due to the pain or if it was from the meds. My sister has CH now too and she says she throws up all the time.

Skyhawk5 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2010 at 12:01am:

Yes.. Without any meds and the O2 fails, when the pain reaches K-9. Sometimes for  5 min up to 30 min. The vomiting makes the pain worse and doesn't signal the attacks end, I usually have an hour to go after. Sucks big time. Don

^^ This.  If I wait too long to try the abortive, I've had it happen two or three times, most recently two weeks ago or so.

And I had about an hour left.  My abortive was an Imitrex tablet, which means it left my body at a rapid rate -- and I was too nauseous to take another one and try to keep it down.

That was a bad day.