I went to IAMSHAMAN to order some RC seeds and found the following:

Although these exact seeds are still widely available in seed catalogs and gardening shops worldwide, with recent disturbing developments, we have decided to make the difficult decision to suspend offering these seeds for now. We have a long history of erring on the side of caution, so to protect ourselves and our treasured customers, these seeds are out of stock until further notice.

I posted this info on the clusterbusters site and one of the regulars ran down the story. I hope he/she doesn't mind me using the quote.

The owner of Bouncing Bear botanicals was arrested a week ago for distributing K2 a synthetic but currently legal pot alternative, as well as LSD like substances, lysergic acid amides, (LSA or Marigold, RC and HBWR seeds)
Until the trial happens I am sure all the others selling seeds will tread very lightly untill the courts rule.

Untill then CH relief for so many may not be so easy to achieve in the U.S.

This may be a time for all of us to heartily speak up about our needs and send the message far and wide that a very solid natural supplement/medication has been found and literally changed so many lives, returned many to the workforce, reduced the level of needed and expensive medical care and given hope to so many that conventional RX could not help.Yet none have been harmed that I am aware of.

There is a strong undercurrent underway to rid the world of many entheogenic compounds mostly through ignorance and very conservative and misled ideas to save the world.
We as clusterbusters have a voice and unless we speak up it will be back to all them nasty drugs that never have stopped a CH cycle.

If anyone can find the attorneys or judges name in the case we should submit letters of support for LSA and how LSA has changed our lives. Or perhaps someone could develop an online petition. CB.com, Maps, Kansas news media, Erowid etc... Send the message far and wide.

Just thought I would share. Scott

This is disturbing news indeed.  Looks like i'll be growing my own out back and other wise use morning glories.

>:(

I see they have taken down the sale of morning glories, HBWR seeds as well.  I wonder what they'll do to retailers like Home Depot, Lowes and Walmart who sell morning glories. 

I think I'll take to growing Rivea Corymbosa this year.

Some of us have no place to grow ANYTHING...

Not looking good for this spring... >:( :'(

Redd wrote on Feb 16^th, 2010 at 1:22pm:

Some of us have no place to grow ANYTHING... Not looking good for this spring... >:( :'(

Do you have a flower pot, some potting soil, and a window?

My Windows face north and get zero sunlight in them.  I have no plants at all because they die from lack of direct sunlight.

There do apper to be many vendors who are no longer selling the rc seeds.

there is this vendor and they don't indicate they are no longer selling anywhere on their site. i have not bought from them, but let me know if you do and what  your success is.

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i think it is best for us who use the rc seeds to keep an open dialogue on who is selling the seeds.

Other than growing them myself I may have to find alternative options for natural prevents.  It's sad it is easier to obtain psilocybin in my area than it will be to get seeds.  The seeds are my top choice due to NO tripping affects.

Redd wrote on Feb 16^th, 2010 at 1:42pm:

My Windows face north and get zero sunlight in them.  I have no plants at all because they die from lack of direct sunlight.

Grow lights

I'm really curious to hear if anybody has experience with salvialight.com or any of the other sites that seem to still be offering RC seeds.

Salvia Light:
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Salvia Supply:
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Individual sellers on eBay. E.g.:
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Individual sellers elsewhere E.g.:
Bonanzle
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If anybody in this group has had positive experiences with any of these or other sources, I'm sure many of us would like to hear. Thanks.

deltadarlin wrote on Feb 16^th, 2010 at 7:25pm:

Redd wrote on Feb 16th, 2010 at 1:42pm: My Windows face north and get zero sunlight in them.  I have no plants at all because they die from lack of direct sunlight. Apartment (small apartment) living ...wish it were that simple Carolyn....... Grow lights

I was browsing around these sites last night, but I didn't save the one that had a good deal on 100 seeds.  I'll have to ask if they're viable.  I think it said they were untreated which is very important as we know.

I don't know. What does untreated mean?

sch wrote on Feb 17^th, 2010 at 8:44am:

I don't know. What does untreated mean?

Sometimes they treat seeds with chemicals I wouldn't want to ingest. 

Ok fellas,  I just bought 100 seeds from this site and I got a reply from there on email saying their seeds are "viable" and "untreated".

All the best!

BTW, 100 seeds/$15

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Thanks for the info, Chad!

psychoactiveherbs.com does have good prices and good customer service. This is where I've been buying mine because they were one of the only sites that would ship to my state.

B

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Received my shipment today. It seems there are still vendors around.  ;)

Racer1_NC wrote on Feb 20^th, 2010 at 1:27pm:

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Just went there and I couldn't find RC seeds anywhere on the site. 

Well it looks like I must have caught the last plane out so to speak. The page I ordered from has been modified and one can no longer place an order. Sheesh!  >:(

How's that hope and change working out for us?

Racer1_NC wrote on Feb 20^th, 2010 at 8:05pm:

Well it looks like I must have caught the last plane out so to speak. The page I ordered from has been modified and one can no longer place an order. Sheesh!  >:(

Kinda what I guessed.  You got your order in before it was pulled.

Chad posted a site, but I'm a bit hesitant with a confirmation by a member with only 2 posts. 

Redd wrote on Feb 20^th, 2010 at 9:03pm:

Kinda what I guessed.  You got your order in before it was pulled. Chad posted a site, but I'm a bit hesitant with a confirmation by a member with only 2 posts.

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I officially got my 100 seeds in the mail today.  As another has said, they worked for him.  They are viable and untreated too.  Those of you interested may want to check this site out.

Thanks for keeping us in the loop. With Chad's confirmation I just placed my order. <fingers crossed>

Krojo, I realise I have few posts, but I've been lurking here for years. I'm a sufferer just like you. I'm reliable too.  ;)

B

Brew wrote on Feb 20^th, 2010 at 8:47pm:

How's that hope and change working out for us?

I'm hoping for ANOTHER change in a couple of years....   ;)  It sure isn't going to help much for the present though. >:(

Chad wrote on Feb 16^th, 2010 at 12:34pm:

I see they have taken down the sale of morning glories, HBWR seeds as well.  I wonder what they'll do to retailers like Home Depot, Lowes and Walmart who sell morning glories.

I remember quite a few years ago when the consumption of morning glory recreationally
was common, some of the major seed suppliers changed the seeds they were selling as Heavenly Blue, Wedding Bells, and Flying Saucers. Their packages no longer listed exactly what you were buying. Best bet would be to purchase RC from a reputable supplier so you know what you are getting. Have never quite understood the logic behind their actions. Can only assume they took it upon themselves to become the moral police, or maybe they had some pressure exerted upon them by an outside group.

On a side note, the treated or untreated state of seeds refers to them having been treated with a chemical to prevent mildew when planted. It's reported that it is easily washed off with water.

Order and recieved my 100 seeds in the mail from psycoactiveherbs.

midwestbeth wrote on Feb 25^th, 2010 at 8:13am:

Order and recieved my 100 seeds in the mail from psycoactiveherbs.

Awesome!  Looks like we found a new home :)

Hi all,

Without wanting to sound like an idiot, what are these seeds, how do you use them and what do they do? I've never heard of them (I'm a supporter not a sufferer).  Perhaps my partner already knows given he reads up a lot and would jump at the chance of anything that could bring relief, but I would like to ask in case this is a new one for him.

Thanks for any help you can give :)

Sammy99 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2010 at 12:22pm:

Hi all, Without wanting to sound like an idiot, what are these seeds, how do you use them and what do they do? I've never heard of them (I'm a supporter not a sufferer).  Perhaps my partner already knows given he reads up a lot and would jump at the chance of anything that could bring relief, but I would like to ask in case this is a new one for him. Thanks for any help you can give :)

Go to clusterbusters.com (rather than somebody here rehashing it all).

Brew wrote on Feb 25^th, 2010 at 12:44pm:

Go to clusterbusters.com (rather than somebody here rehashing it all).

Thanks for the link  :)

Will head over now for a good read up...

Just to update, I received my 100 seeds from psychoactiveherbs. My order took a long time due to a bug somewhere on the site or perhaps with Paypal(?) but the staff at psychoactiveherbs was helpful and reliable.