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Message started by Katie-Marie on Jan 31st, 2010 at 7:42am

Title: Amitriptyline
Post by Katie-Marie on Jan 31st, 2010 at 7:42am
As mentioned in previous post I was first perscribed with Sumatriptan, 100mg tabs and told to take 2 at the start of attack, once a day. After posting it was clear this was a very high dose. So I only took half 1 tab (50mg). This was awfull.. It made things worse I was sick had neck & shoulder pain and the attack to deal with! I then felt sick just looking at the tab!

So I went back to my doctor in a desperate bid for oxygen.. This did not work even after providing her with the info Bob had given me she still believed it would not work!

I was perscribed AMITRIPTYLINE 10mg tab and told to take one a night..
I has only been 4 nights.. 1 night painfree (First in 4 weeks!!) :) However I am getting very confused with short term memory and after taking the tablet am very restless.
Anyone else have an experiance with Amitriptyline?

I recieved a letter from the NHS, Choose & Book Neuro! So I log on enter my information to find there is NO appointments available.. Will I wait forever.......................

Title: Re: Amitriptyline
Post by Dallas Denny 62 on Jan 31st, 2010 at 8:41am
Amitriptyline was the 2nd med I had prescribed during the course of treatment for CH.  Of all the meds I have tried it was the one that I could least tolerate and although I had some of the "confusion" you mentioned, by far the worst side effect was waking up at night with both my forearms and hands "asleep" so badly that they ached.  In my experience Amitriptyline and Noritriptyline are both "old school" meds when it comes to CH. 

DD

Title: Re: Amitriptyline
Post by Brew on Jan 31st, 2010 at 8:48am
I don't know much about the British model of healthcare, but I'D BE LOOKING FOR A NEW DOCTOR, LIKE, YESTERDAY.

Title: Re: Amitriptyline
Post by Joni on Jan 31st, 2010 at 1:29pm
I have taken 10 mg of Amitriptyline at night for 4 0r 5 years, which is a very small dose.  When I first started it, it made me sleepy.  The only side effect I don't like is mild constipation.  It was not given to me to abort or prevent clusters, but rather to ease some of the nerve pain and help with sleep...which in turn did help.  I cannot speak about it alone because I take it with other meds as well that I started at the same time.  My brother could not take it at all.  He had symptoms similar to what you describe.   

Title: Re: Amitriptyline
Post by MITYRARE on Jan 31st, 2010 at 1:37pm
Amitriptyline is prescribed in order to put you into a deeper sleep...with the theory being that CH happen mostly in REM sleep and not deep sleep, so it could potentially minimize the number of night time hits.  It is also used in high dose as an anti depressant for adults, and in small doses as a drug for children to take in order to reduce bed wetting.

I have been on amitriptylene for years and years being prescibed for a sleep disorder. My presciption calls for up to 80 mg before bed....i usually take 30 max and it is effective for sleep...it may have reduced the number of CH, i'll never know for sure, but at least I do get some sleep as a result.

When you first start it , you can become unsettled and anxious  until your body adjusts to it...this uneasiness forces many to drop it.  I know it works for my sleep disorder and if I take more than 40 mg at night I become a sleepy dope all day long... once when I was at a sleep clinic I had to take 80 mg and I felt like a lazy dope for three days after (not recommended)

I have never heard of memory issues, but I would immediately report your experience to the Doc and look for alternatives.

Good luck.
P

Title: Re: Amitriptyline
Post by sch on Jan 31st, 2010 at 4:48pm
I started Amitriptyline towards the end of a cycle and found that it almost totally knocked out the night time hits. I started with 25mg and found that was way enough and I'm a pretty large fella. I did not experience a lot of the side effects as some have experienced. I did experience strong sedative effects though and required at least 8 hrs (10 even better) of sleep and a large strong cup of coffee in the morning. I asked my doc to prescribe the 10mg and I sort of bounced back and forth between 10-20mg before bedtime. It helped me.

That being said, I was nearing the end of my cycle and had already been on a tapered dose of Prednisone, Verapmil, and Triptans for acute attacks (Treximet - 85mg Sumitriptan, and Sumitriptan Nasal Spray -20mg). The nasal spray worked the quickest. I ended up halving the Treximet and that worked ok also but took longer. The side effects of the triptans are certainly prevelant. For me it felt like I was having a slight heart attack but those subsided and were well worth putting up with to combat a 2-3 hr k9/10.

Midway thru my cycle I finally got setup properly with 02 (HI FLOW AND NON REBREATHER MASK) and that helped abort or at least lessen the length and severity of the attacks.

If your Doctor will not prescribe high flow 02 for a diagnosed Cluster Headache patient they should be reported to their governing agency for malpractice.

Next time the axe-man visits me I think I might try Melatonin for sleep instead of the Amitriptyline but I would use again if needed.

Title: Re: Amitriptyline
Post by sch on Jan 31st, 2010 at 5:51pm
You know Katie-Marie the more I read this thread the more bewildered I get.

That doc should be disbarred just for prescribing 200mg oral sumitriptan all at once. And the pharmacist who filled it with those instructions should be called down on the carpet as well.

Get a new doc - this one is dangerous!!!

Title: Re: Amitriptyline
Post by daveaust on Feb 27th, 2010 at 12:44am
I've used amitriptyline as my go-to preventative for many years. But I get episodic clusters of 1-6 months at a time every 1-2 years. That may sound infrequent but when they hit they are relentless and unforgiving. I usually just hi-dose oral pred for few weeks while they elavil is "adjusting the receptors". I start at 100mg and usually go up to 150. First week I'm a little sleepy the next AM but for me elavil never fails. I've tried most all the other the other things w/o very good result but that's just me(I'm kinda weird anyway). So I know it's old-school but at lower doses it can work--but lotsa side effects. Hopefully you can try some of the other more friendly oral meds if the elavil is too rough. And yep that sumatrip dosing sounds way out there too-wow. Keep in mind I'm really not trying to give advice here, just telling you what I do! good luck.

Title: Re: Amitriptyline
Post by jlcalbre on Feb 27th, 2010 at 10:17pm
I took amitriptylene for almost ten years.  The first month or so I felt stoned for a few hours in the morning but it went away.  A couple of times it stopped working and my doctor increased the dosage and it worked well until it eventually stopped working altogether and I switched to verapamil.  It did screw up my metabolism a little bit and caused me to gain some weight.  While it worked for me for a while, I think there are probably some better treatments out there.

Title: Re: Amitriptyline
Post by Headache Boy uk on Feb 28th, 2010 at 8:22pm
Don't know about the meds but I have had some experience with choose & bodge,sorry book, keep trying on the net , try ringing them as that should release new appointments BUT if you get a cancellation make sure it's to see a neurologist. I ended up in an me clinic which was no help what so ever. Don't be surprised if you have a 3 month wait.
sorry it's not good news but it's the best I can offer.

try searching on line for the London headache clinic ,i think that's what it's called , you don't need a referral but they do charge £100 for a first appointment, tho i don't know what they are like , was a bit too expensive for me at the moment.

all the best
Nigel

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