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Message started by deltadarlin on Oct 20th, 2009 at 8:01am

Title: Firefighter suspended for American flag decal
Post by deltadarlin on Oct 20th, 2009 at 8:01am
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Title: Re: Firefighter suspended for American flag decal
Post by BigMatt on Oct 20th, 2009 at 11:51am
Every firefighter in that city should put a flag sticker on their lockers then what would the idiots do?

Title: Re: Firefighter suspended for American flag decal
Post by Linda_Howell on Oct 20th, 2009 at 12:05pm

Flying a flag in Portland.  Having a clothes-line in the back-yard now illegal in Canton, Ohio and now this.

What's next? We can only paint our houses a certain color?   >:(   All of our indiviual rights are being systemactically taking away.

Title: Re: Firefighter suspended for American flag decal
Post by Brew on Oct 20th, 2009 at 1:21pm

Linda_Howell wrote on Oct 20th, 2009 at 12:05pm:
What's next? We can only paint our houses a certain color? 

Many subdivision covenants actually include this kind of language.

Title: Re: Firefighter suspended for American flag decal
Post by Lobster on Oct 20th, 2009 at 1:58pm
Someone else owns the locker.  If the owner tells you to remove all stickers, you do it.

Do the people in question have flag stickers on their cars, refrigerators and house windows?  Probably not.

Show all the patriotism you want, on your own belongings. 
 

Title: Re: Firefighter suspended for American flag decal
Post by Brew on Oct 20th, 2009 at 2:07pm

Brew wrote on Oct 20th, 2009 at 1:21pm:

Linda_Howell wrote on Oct 20th, 2009 at 12:05pm:
What's next? We can only paint our houses a certain color? 

Many subdivision covenants actually include this kind of language.

And that color is the color of mildew.

Title: Re: Firefighter suspended for American flag decal
Post by BigMatt on Oct 20th, 2009 at 2:14pm
I have a flag on my car and I feel it is a way of showing that I love my country even with all its short falls. If you don’t love it then the door is always open any time you want to leave, don’t let the door hit you in the butt on the way out.

Title: Re: Firefighter suspended for American flag decal
Post by Melissa on Oct 20th, 2009 at 2:23pm
It's so sad how nowadays the act of one rotten person ends up punishing all the people who did NOTHING WRONG.

THAT is what it's really all about!

Title: Re: Firefighter suspended for American flag decal
Post by deltadarlin on Oct 20th, 2009 at 4:06pm

Lobster wrote on Oct 20th, 2009 at 1:58pm:
Someone else owns the locker.  If the owner tells you to remove all stickers, you do it.


Let's see here.  How about putting it up to a public vote then?  Since they are firefighters and firefighters are considered to be public servants, then msot likely those lockers are owned by the public who paid for them with their taxes. 

As an aside, the flag is on their unifroms, the flag is flown at the station, should that be removed too if somebody protests?

Title: Re: Firefighter suspended for American flag decal
Post by Lobster on Oct 20th, 2009 at 4:23pm
They are wearing it on their uniform because their boss makes them.
They are flying it in front of their station because their boss makes them.
They are taking them off their locker because their boss is making them.
The public does not get a vote on day to day administrative decisions.  It doesn't matter who complains.  If your boss gives you a simple instruction you follow it. 

The flag is not a holy object which gives the purchaser of a 25cent made-in-China sticker the right to apply it wherever they see fit. 


Title: Re: Firefighter suspended for American flag decal
Post by BarbaraD on Oct 20th, 2009 at 7:05pm
Good lord!! Madelin O'Hare is one happy camper in hell today... That bitch started all this back when she "thought" praying in schools was not a good thing and WE let her get HER way... Things have been going to hell ever since.

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with it, but when you work for someone, ya gotta follow their rules or go to work for yourself and set your own rules. That's just business.  And if it's in the policy manual.... the only way to change that is to go to the city council and protest and get it changed. But until then - it's the rules...

:-*

Title: Re: Firefighter suspended for American flag decal
Post by Charlie on Oct 20th, 2009 at 7:53pm

Quote:
"The directive says 'everything,' "

Directives.........no room for common sense or interpretation.  :(

Is there something I missed about no adults allowed? Twerps.


Quote:
Having a clothes-line in the back-yard now illegal in Canton, Ohio and now this.

Right Linda. I know about this thing and it can be found in a lot of communities.  :o

Charlie

Title: Re: Firefighter suspended for American flag decal
Post by Karla on Oct 20th, 2009 at 8:52pm
The house we owned from 1998-2008 in Madison, WI had a covenent with the subdivision.  We could not have clotheslines in our backyards.  We couldnt build anything onto or put up a lean to on our property without it first being approved by the subdivision.  My backyard neighbor was forced out because he put up a ugly depcrepid wooden leanto for his dogs to get in and out of the back patio door.  It was a wood frame proped up with a tarp over it so the dogs could come and go.  We couldn't park cars in our driveways overnight or have campers or trailers or boats parked in our driveway.  Which reminds me my backyard neighbor had a boat parked all the time in his driveway.  I thought the whole thing was ok with me as far as my property goes.  I had no objections but my neighbors shur pitched a fit with my backyard neighbor until he had to sell to find peace. 

Title: Re: Firefighter suspended for American flag decal
Post by Charlie on Oct 20th, 2009 at 9:16pm
Actually, I understand Karla. My street seems to be off the radar. My neighbors do their best most of the time though. For now, I'm drying my clothes the hard way until I deal with my on the fritz dryer....mostly in my cellar though.

Charlie

Title: Re: Firefighter suspended for American flag decal
Post by Linda_Howell on Oct 21st, 2009 at 11:36am
What you guys are referring to here is a planned community with an "association"   where you actually pay a yearly fee so they can tell you what kind of curtains can be hung in your windows or where you can park your car.  Anyone who buys a house in this kind community KNOWS upfront about the rules and assumes responsibility for adhering to them or he buys a house in a normal neighborhood.

When living in a normal neighborhood one shouldn't be at the mercy of....like Mel said...one or two malcontents on a power trip who spoil it for the rest.

As for the 11-yr. veteran fire-fighter with the flag,  I'll bet almost anything he put that up there after 9-11 and no one said anything til now..for whatever their reasoning might be.  I understand that the locker is not his property...but what a nit-picky thing to do that sends a horrid message.

I'm sure that little bitty flag decal was just messing up the whole departments cohesion something fierce.  ::)

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