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Cluster Headache Help and Support >> Medications, Treatments, Therapies >> Comparable strength to steriod Experiment started! http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1241623572 Message started by cassie on May 6th, 2009 at 11:26am |
Title: Re: Comparable strength to steriod Experiment started! Post by ClusterChuck on May 6th, 2009 at 12:20pm
I will let you know. I AM going to get some, and try it out ...
Chuck |
Title: Re: Comparable strength to steriod Experiment started! Post by Katherinecm on May 6th, 2009 at 4:15pm
Let me know if it helps. If it does, I may apply for funding to do an undergraduate study on it.
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Title: Re: Comparable strength to steriod Experiment started! Post by Lefty on May 6th, 2009 at 8:43pm
curcumin
There are several studies online about curcumin’s low bioavailability, which means that most of what we swallow goes directly into our gastrointestinal area and is expelled. Very little remains in the bloodstream about an hour or so after ingestion. piperine if one is using a drug for which the therapeutic level is not substantially lower than the toxic level, piperine supplementation might raise the bioavailability of the drug until its intracellular concentration exceeds the toxic threshold. On the other hand, piperine supplementation can sometimes turn a marginally effective therapeutic substance into a highly effective one simply by increasing its bioavailability and intracellular residency time. A good example of this latter phenomenon is the use of piperine to increase the bioavailability of curcumin, a supplement with broad activity against cancers, inflammation and infections. A 20 mg dose of piperine can increase curcumin’s bioavailability twentyfold. I just cut and pasted this here as I thought it may be relevant to your post...! Lefty...! |
Title: Re: Comparable strength to steriod Experiment started! Post by cassie on May 6th, 2009 at 9:09pm
Hello Lefty,
This curcumin was bought pure 95% curcumin in form. This is not from the pills you buy in the store they add that piperine to try and make it bio available. If you dissolve the curcumin in FAT your body does absorb it many times more than popping that pill with the ridiculous dangerous additive. Supplement suppliers want to sell you there product with the additives in it and try to claim it is super bio available. If there is anyone in here that knows there science and chemistry then they can verify that if dissolved in FAT it will be highly absorbed by the body. If you want things to get into your lymphatic system take it with FAT PROTIEN. Someone mentioned that people in India get CH and they eat tons of curry turmeric. Curcumin is the beneficial component super concentrated. You would have to eat tons of curry and turmeric to get this concentrated amount. |
Title: Re: Comparable strength to steriod Experiment started! Post by cassie on May 6th, 2009 at 9:19pm
PS
If anyone wants the supplier info I purchased from they are out of California, just send me a pm for the info. Cassie |
Title: Re: Comparable strength to steriod Experiment started! Post by cassie on May 7th, 2009 at 12:38am
Thanks Monty.
I personally would not take any additives with the curcumin. |
Title: Re: Comparable strength to steriod Experiment started! Post by monty on May 7th, 2009 at 11:48am
Well, simply taking a larger dose of curcumin can have the same effect as taking it with something like bioperine/pepper, which increases the measured levels in the body. Seems like your bag is big enough so that you don't have to worry about it.
That's not my bag, baby! :) Heat also increases the solubility of curcumin ... not sure what temperatures they used, or how long, or if it would work with the traditional curry prep method (fry spices in small amount of oil for one minute at high heat, then add coconut milk). Coconut milk is fatty, but has lots of water, and probably doesn't get much hotter than 212/100. On the other hand, the traditional curry method can take it up to 400 degrees F or higher. Not sure if the heat treatment below involves exposure to oxygen or not, or if it would be better to use a dry pan to fry the curcumin to activate it. Quote:
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Title: Re: Comparable strength to steriod Experiment started! Post by cassie on May 14th, 2009 at 10:42am
I have not had a CH since Saturday evening, that is 4 days. I have only taken one large dose of 14 grams and two small doses at 4 grams. Hard to believe but seems the episode is done!
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