No insurance and only have one trex injection left, I've been using the Kud-Zu again nothing yet, getting hit 3 to 4 times a day and about 4 times a night, had a few kip 3's & 4's but a lot of 8's and 9's, can't stand it, I think I'm getting to old for this sh@*, it's amazing how one can forget how bad that beast can be.

PFDN

Norm

Welding O2 doesn't require a prescription and it's downright cheap. I wasn't handling the high level hits so good, so I did something about it - whole new world out there......

Hey Marc,

Long time no chat, I do plan on trying the 02 again working on it as I speak, it didn't work for me last time and I'm afraid it might not this time, just trying to be prepaired. I'm scared as hell to have nothing if you know what I mean.

River_Rat wrote on Apr 15^th, 2009 at 9:11am:

I do plan on trying the 02 again working on it as I speak, it didn't work for me last time and I'm afraid it might not this time,

I think we enjoy our pain free time so much that when the beast returns we understandably forget how much the F***er hurts..!

I'm not from your side of the Atlantic so I have no problems securing meds for free but from listening to Marc and the rest welders 02 seems to be a cheaper alternative.

I know you've had no success in the past with 02 but I've read that increasing the LPM has had success for many. Get a regulator fitted that allows you to get the max from your 02(Some have gone as high as 60lpm) Whatever it takes to beat the beast....!

Hope it works for you this time. ;)

Lefty...!

Norm,

Something you might want to give a shot at is to chug a Red Bull (or other similar energy drink with caffine and taurine) at onset.  Just as soon as you feel the first twinge.

Many people have has success at least in keeping the kip level low and short duration, and in some cases people report a full on abort.

There is a generic Red Bull at ALDI stores, and it's well worth the investment.  I keep some on hand at all times, even though I'm  virtually pain free at this point.

Worth a shot brother!

Pegg

Norm, sorry the beast found you again.  That REALLY sucks!

Before you try the oxygen again, read the information behind the tab, on the left side of your screen, oxygen info and you will see we have come a long way, since you last used it.  

MANY, that oxygen did not work for, in the past, are getting GREAT results by using it at the higher flow rates of 25LPM and even higher.  The higher flow rate, plus the O2PTIMASK^TM have improved the effectiveness immensely!

Give it a shot!

Chuck, an oxygen junkie

OK so I just went and bought a green welders 02 tank and have it in my garage, I do not have a regulator yet or a mask, can I just breath it out of the tank until these items arrive?????????

PFDN

Norm

You could try it , but I'd wager there would be too much air mixed.  100% consentrated oxygen is what is needed.

Lefty wrote on Apr 15^th, 2009 at 9:51am:

I think we enjoy our pain free time so much that when the beast returns we understandably forget how much the F***er hurts..!

This is built into the human psyche. If it wasn't, women would only have one child max and the species would have died out long ago.

over the counter methods
-non generic 4way nasal  spray
-breathrite strips that go over your nose
-humidify the air
-energy drinks with taurine and caffeine (red bull)
-ice water treatment
-hot/cold showers
-frozen peas over the face

stay away from nitrates, beer, chocolate, and don't smoke weed 8-)