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Message started by bsic on Dec 23rd, 2008 at 9:09pm

Title: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by bsic on Dec 23rd, 2008 at 9:09pm
Hi All,

I know there have been a couple of smoking threads in the past, but Im trying to get a feel for how many of you smoke, or have smoked in the past.  I did see that quite a few have quit, and still gotten CH- so Im curious if this mostly hits folks who have at one point been smokers- regardless if they have quit or not.

Answer away!

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Jimi on Dec 23rd, 2008 at 9:16pm
Yep, probably about 80%. That is the first thing that we notice when we go to our first convention. Everybody appears to smoke. Addictive personality? Something else? Who knows.

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by CH-HELL on Dec 23rd, 2008 at 9:18pm
 I belive there are a lot of smokers here and I am one.   I have quit several times and my ch only got worse every time I quit,  so I will no longer be called a quiter ;).
           Phil [smiley=smokin.gif]

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Guiseppi on Dec 23rd, 2008 at 9:18pm
Never been a smoker!

Joe

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Jonny on Dec 23rd, 2008 at 9:25pm

Guiseppi wrote on Dec 23rd, 2008 at 9:18pm:
Never been a smoker!

Joe


Show off.....LMAO!  ;D

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Charlotte on Dec 23rd, 2008 at 10:01pm
I've never been a smoker, but when I grew up almost everyone smoked so I never minded smoke.

Charlotte

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by starlight on Dec 23rd, 2008 at 10:13pm
Hi bsic!

Just for the sake of info, I started getting CH when I was 14--never had smoked, drank, or even drank coffee at that age and wasn't around second hand smoke growing up.  So...I am always a little skeptical that CH people necessarily smoke or that there is any link.  All I know is, CH can hit people who have never smoked.  Good luck with your research!

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Balanchine on Dec 23rd, 2008 at 10:31pm
non-smoker.

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Pixie-elf on Dec 23rd, 2008 at 10:34pm
Nope. Lifelong asthmatic. No one was allowed to smoke around me as a kid and teenager because it was too likely to make me have an attack.

No one smokes around me now, because after my cycle started, first whiff of smoke I got caused a cluster.

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Rolomatic on Dec 23rd, 2008 at 10:37pm
Oh yea, [smiley=smokin.gif]

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by bsic on Dec 23rd, 2008 at 10:42pm

Jimi wrote on Dec 23rd, 2008 at 9:16pm:
Yep, probably about 80%. That is the first thing that we notice when we go to our first convention. Everybody appears to smoke. Addictive personality? Something else? Who knows.


Ah!  Ya know, i wish i frequented this board earlier, y'all met in my neck of the woods last year :(  

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Guiseppi on Dec 23rd, 2008 at 10:54pm
First chance you get try and make a meet and greet....you'll never be the same! ;)

And Jonny....biteth me! ;D

Joe

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Barry_T_Coles on Dec 23rd, 2008 at 11:01pm
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Barry

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Just Plain Carl on Dec 23rd, 2008 at 11:19pm
I smoke twice as much when in cycle.
           

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Ray on Dec 23rd, 2008 at 11:24pm
[smiley=smokin.gif] and wish I never started...

Ray

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by George on Dec 24th, 2008 at 1:17am
Yep.  Not all that much (it's never been all that much)--maybe ten cigs a day--but still...

Thing is, I started with CH years before I started smoking.

There's a definite relationship, but I don't know whether smoking increases the likelihood that one will be a clusterhead, or whether something about smoking is peculiarly attractive to clusterheads.  It's interesting.

Best,

George

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by ClusterChuck on Dec 24th, 2008 at 1:27am
I am not a smoker.  I have just been testing the taste of them, for the past 50 years, to the tune of two packs a day.  BUT, it is just for research mind you, as I am NOT a smoker ...

I can put them down, forever, at any point ...

Chuck

(Ya believe THOSE statements, then I have a pill here, that will CURE you of cluster headaches!  A Pill that is cheap {relatively} and has NO side effects)

(Just send me $873.98 for ONE sugar magic pill, that is guaranteed to cure your clusters.  If it doesn't work, buy another, and THAT one will!)

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Barry_T_Coles on Dec 24th, 2008 at 2:23am

ClusterChuck wrote on Dec 24th, 2008 at 1:27am:
I am not a smoker.  I have just been testing the taste of them, for the past 50 years, to the tune of two packs a day.  BUT, it is just for research mind you, as I am NOT a smoker ...

I can put them down, forever, at any point ...

Chuck

(Ya believe THOSE statements, then I have a pill here, that will CURE you of cluster headaches!  A Pill that is cheap {relatively} and has NO side effects)

(Just send me $873.98 for ONE sugar magic pill, that is guaranteed to cure your clusters.  If it doesn't work, buy another, and THAT one will!)

I'll have 6 thanks Chuck, I'm in a hurry ;)

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by AussieBrian on Dec 24th, 2008 at 2:43am
40 a day for 40 years and I just quit.

No change to CH, slipped two discs.

Unimpressed.

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by sheena.t on Dec 24th, 2008 at 7:45am
I started smoking at 16 and started CH at 32, I must be a godsend to the tobacco industry 'cos I wouldn't manage without my cigs.  I don't want to give up and have never tried, as soon as the O2 goes away out come the cigs. [smiley=smokin.gif]
FYI I don't drink coffee or tea, and haven't touched alcohol for about three years. It's these smells that kick me off. I can't even stand coffee/alcohol flavoured foods.
What's in Red Bull that everyone seems to find helpfull? Or am I missing the joke? [smiley=worried.gif]

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by barry_sword on Dec 24th, 2008 at 7:55am
30 year smoker, worked myself up to two packs a day, then one day I said to myself, ENOUGH ALREADY! Went out and bought myself a new mountain bike and never touched one since. That was September 3rd, 2005 at 9:45am.

Did not change or effect my CH's either way. [smiley=twocents.gif]

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by bsic on Dec 24th, 2008 at 7:58am

sheena.t wrote on Dec 24th, 2008 at 7:45am:
What's in Red Bull that everyone seems to find helpfull? Or am I missing the joke? [smiley=worried.gif]


It has something to do with the high amount of Taurine in red bull and other energy drinks, i believe because it along with the caffiene is a vasal constrictor, which shrinks the blood vessels.   Im sure someone here can add to this, or tell me im way off :)

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by GrandPotentate on Dec 24th, 2008 at 8:17am
I used to smoke a couple packs or so a day, cause I didn't have time for more.  I didn't have a monkey on my back, I had a Diane Fosse study group.  I was never able to just smoke a little.  Like the old Tex Ritter song "Smoke, Smoke, Smoke that Cigarette."

Anyway, I got doped up with a bunch of narcotics by a neuro, stopped buying smokes, and never even noticed.  Haven't had one in six years.

Does it affect the CH? Maybe.  My worst CH day came after travelling and chewing some nicotine gum to get through overseas flights.  Since quitting, I've had fewer and milder cycles.  But none of us knows what affects the beast.

I find it is a LOT easier to function in life as a non-heavy-smoker.  I used to smoke in my office; my present job doesn't allow anywhere on the property.  I could go on and on.  There are a lot of really paranoid non-smokers out there, and they are winning.  The tyranny of the majority in a democratic society.  You can't change it, so deal with it.

I still occasionally hang out in smoky bars in Indiana.  But I've also been to NYC and Ireland, and like to duck into a pub for a breath of fresh air.




Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by sheena.t on Dec 24th, 2008 at 8:32am
So would I have to drink the Red Bull with coffee? or is the caffeine in the drink?
Either way I cannot seem to tolerate caffeine at all, most energy drinks are too much for me too.  I must be more weird than I originally thought [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by bsic on Dec 24th, 2008 at 8:36am
RedBull is loaded w/ caffeine as well, one stop shopping.  Its worked fairly well for me as an abortive should I get one in the car- its happened a few times and its aborted 2 out of 3 on the way to work.

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by gizmo on Dec 24th, 2008 at 8:38am
It is the caffeine and taurine combo in the drink that helps some of us.

Oliver

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by sheena.t on Dec 24th, 2008 at 8:44am
Ta muchly on the info on Red Bull, I don't know whether to try it if there is caffeine in it. The only stimulant I can seem to manage is the cigs, can't do without my nicotine hit!! ;D

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by uncle-cluster on Dec 24th, 2008 at 9:49am
A smoker & a bull drinker . I was drinking lots of redbull without knowing it may have been helping me..
Maybe I felt good and subconsciously kept on drinking it. I only found out on this site that caffeine/ redbull  was good for us..   (another thanks)

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Melissa on Dec 24th, 2008 at 10:13am
Smoked previously, been in cycle whether smoking or not.

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by E-Double on Dec 24th, 2008 at 10:54am
Smoked for 18 yrs more than half my life.
Quit 4 months ago.

Hasn't seemed to make a difference with exception to me being more of a prick...I still need to find a different coping mechanism.

It's nice to have a few more extra bucks though

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by [johnny] on Dec 24th, 2008 at 11:42am
2 packs a day [smiley=smokin.gif] [smiley=smokin.gif]

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Snapper21 on Dec 24th, 2008 at 12:39pm
I slow down my smoking about 50% at about kip3 or 4. They just don't appeal to me. Regularly .80 packs/day

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by MITYRARE on Dec 24th, 2008 at 2:24pm
never smoked

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by JSCartier on Dec 25th, 2008 at 3:24pm
Well lets See , Been smoking since 12 and that was 22 years ago. I seem to have more need for nicotine during my cycle then when PF ( though that is a rarity)

It seems that when the Kip is increasing I tend to smoke a lot more until I hit about a 7 or so then its nothing but me , my aborts and the beast.

My usual is about half a pack a day but that increases to a pack a day during my dancing time

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by MorDog on Dec 28th, 2008 at 8:38pm
Used to smoke a pack a day.  Quit about 11 years ago.  Had CH's while I smoked and still have them now.

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by seasonalboomer on Dec 28th, 2008 at 9:02pm
Smoked from 15 years old to 34. Quit twelve years ago. Best thing I've ever done for myself. Didn't change my CH though.

Scott

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Bob P on Dec 29th, 2008 at 7:20am
Based on this sites survey, about 50% of clusterheads smoke:


Quote:
Does the sufferer smoke (if yes, the frequency is listed)
No                    5842 48%  
Less than 1 ppd 2672 22%  
1-2 ppd             3131 26%  
2+ ppd               254   2%

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Marc on Dec 29th, 2008 at 7:43am
Based on OUCH conventions, I would have thought that it was higher.

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Chad on Dec 29th, 2008 at 11:24am
This Feburary will be 4 years for the wife and I.
Since I have quit, the intensity, frequency, and cycles
have been reduced.  As soon as I would light up back then
during a cycle, a cluster would almost immediately follow.
If you're really looking to reduce the pain, it's worth quitting.
That's how I look at it.  Any trigger during cycle is worth quitting,
no matter what it is.

Chad

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Blue_eyes on Jan 1st, 2009 at 2:34pm
I smoke 1- pack a day [smiley=smokin.gif]

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Lenny on Jan 1st, 2009 at 2:56pm
   I quit back in 94 ( 8.5 months ) at the time i was in cycle and the beast refused to give me a break.....I was going to quit today (lasted 2-hours) so i will try again on the 3rd.of this month (my wife will have 5-years on the 3rd.) so hopefully i will do it (i know i can do it)just not sure how bad i want it.....The only thing that scare's me is after each hit (when i get rid of the beast) i will miss my smoking afterwards (its almost like a celebration of victory).....Lenny

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Skyhawk5 on Jan 2nd, 2009 at 1:09am
Smoke 1 PPD.  , Don

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Kilowatt3 on Jan 2nd, 2009 at 2:31pm
Smoked about a pack a day for a little over 33 years, starting at age 13.  Quit 5 years ago.  I did have a long remission from CH at around that time, but the remission actually started before I quit, so there's probably no connection, but who knows?

Regards,
Jim

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by midwestbeth on Jan 2nd, 2009 at 3:47pm
I'm a smoker and don't have the desire to quit right now.  Congrats to all who have quit!!!   Quitting smoking is the best thing you can do for your health in general.  If it reduces the ch's or shortens a cycle, I would consider that a bonus.

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Langa on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 12:50am
Smoked for 10 years.  Quit 12 years ago.  Went into cycle either way.

Langa

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Monica on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 9:24am
Joe is a long time smoker, 1 ppd; he does not think about a cig when he is having a hit and does not smoke after aborting for a while.

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by Totka2 on Jan 4th, 2009 at 4:03pm
30+ years f@ckin' smoker.

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by sheena.t on Jan 5th, 2009 at 6:19pm

midwestbeth wrote on Jan 2nd, 2009 at 3:47pm:
I'm a smoker and don't have the desire to quit right now.  Congrats to all who have quit!!!   Quitting smoking is the best thing you can do for your health in general.  If it reduces the ch's or shortens a cycle, I would consider that a bonus.


I wholeheartedly agree with everythin you say here... The first thing you must have is the desire.. I don't want to give up and find the first thing after an attack is a drink of water and a cig!!! [smiley=smokin.gif]
sheena

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by superhawk2300 on Jan 6th, 2009 at 5:09pm
Never smoked a day in my life.

That being said I wish I had something that cost 5 bucks a day to quit - I need some money!

Title: Re: Do a lot of you smoke? Or have you previously?
Post by echo on Jan 7th, 2009 at 6:02pm
At least a pack a day for 35 years.

I topped out at 2 1/2 packs a day when I was a police officer.

Trying to quit now.  I have the lung capacity of a 2 year old.

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