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(Message started by: jonny on Sep 18th, 2003, 7:18pm)

Title: Wanna help?
Post by jonny on Sep 18th, 2003, 7:18pm
Never asked for and never planned too.

But switching insurance companies has me in a ringer, 4 weeks to see a pcp and six to see the Neuro that diagnosed me....I have about six days of meds and thats tapering so I dont crash and burn when they run out.

I went 9 weeks with only three HA's and now that I have to taper down im getting nailed.

All im asking is that if you have any lithium contact me...the verapamil I have comming "Thank you my friend"

Dont mind me...im a chronic that dont want to see that side of the street again.....

...........................................jonny


Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by Patrick_A on Sep 18th, 2003, 7:23pm
Sorry bro, I only have Verapamil and Prednisone but would gladly share with ya.

Patrick  ;D

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by jonny on Sep 18th, 2003, 7:42pm
Thank you, Patrick....if I need Ill let you know.

Anyone got any Lithium?.......sure was alots folks saying they did if I needed it.

Guess what?

................................jonny

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by CC on Sep 18th, 2003, 7:52pm
imitrex injections here,  can send ya a box if need be!

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by arby on Sep 18th, 2003, 7:57pm
jonny

Check your messages

Ross

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by Ann on Sep 18th, 2003, 8:16pm
Jonny!

I've got plenty of lithium...and I can get more!  Can I send it across the border???  E-mail me

hugs
Ann

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by Margi on Sep 18th, 2003, 9:45pm
Jonny, Mike still has a little bit of lithium here (I think about 40 pills).
As Ann says, though, not sure what the border would do to it.  Had a bit of a prob sending across the border before....

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by ZAIRA on Sep 19th, 2003, 3:35am

Hey Jonny..... I sent you a message!

:-*

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by Svenn on Sep 19th, 2003, 4:46am
Shit Jonny.I still have those 30+ shots with trex here that i will donate.Just dont know any way to send it without any problems with the damn customers office

Svenn

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by SommelierCH on Sep 19th, 2003, 5:25am
Bro,

Don't have LI, but I have some Maxalt MLT 10mg and a few Zomig ZMT 5mg. I know that is not in the same ballpark as LI, but let me know if that would help. You were the one that clued me in on using them as a nighttime abortive, would love to help you out any way I can.

I think that this is only the second or third time you have asked us for help, while I've been here. Wish I could do something. My best friend in high school used to rip off veterinarian clinics for PCP. Should I reach out to him?

Love ya,
David J.

P.S. This is a good time to mention to the episodics (like me, dumb, dumb, dumb!!!!) that you must keep refilling your prescriptions in-between cycles. My insurance limits me to 6 tabs of Zomig ZMT 5mg., per month, I need at least one every night during my ten week cycle. During the 22 months pain free between cycles, I should get those fucking 6 mofo tabs, every month. I haven’t. Somebody, please, just shoot me.

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by jminmilwaukee on Sep 19th, 2003, 7:22am
Do not take this the wrong way but I find this thread very interesting coming from a group that fears the leagal ramifiactions of growing mushrooms.

What is the penalty for interstate prescription drug transactions?

Really, I think it is great that everyone is willing to help out and I would help in a heartbeat (if I had or needed prescription drugs).

Just an observation, thats all.

jmin

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by Jackie on Sep 19th, 2003, 7:42am
Jonny,
Our plan is in motion.  I'll keep you posted.



jmin,
I noted your 'observation'.  My observation is that clusterheads will take extreme measures to help other clusterhead.....when they won't or can't do the same for themselves.  It's a matter of the heart.

Jacks 8)

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by SommelierCH on Sep 19th, 2003, 7:58am
jminmilwaukee,

Dude, I would do mushrooms in a heartbeat. But damn, it's been tough ever since Jerry died.

David J.

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by jminmilwaukee on Sep 19th, 2003, 8:01am
Jackie,

I completly understand the extreem mesure thing. As I said, I would help in a heartbeat if I could.

Why is that Clusterheads will take extreem measures to help other clusterheads but not themselves?

Again, I am not arguing the helping out thing but If your willing to go to jail for someone else, why not yourself?

Just curious. Not a slam or a flame or a putdown, just something to ponder.

jmin

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by SommelierCH on Sep 19th, 2003, 8:15am
Uhh..

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by jminmilwaukee on Sep 19th, 2003, 8:36am
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/htm_hl?DB=uscode&STEMMER=en&WORDS=prescription+drug+&COLOUR=Red&STYLE=s&URL=/uscode/21/333.html#muscat_highlighter_first_match

Intersesting read.

Again, this is not an attack. Perhaps I am selfish when it comes to how I choose to break the laws. I know that no one would ever ask anyone here to do something they themselves were not also willing to do.

I still fail to see the difference between taking a chance on this as opposed to quietly growing your medication.

Anyway, this is probably the wrong thread to address this issue.

jmin

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by Jackie on Sep 19th, 2003, 8:42am
jmin,

It's a bit like a mother who would steal food to feed her hungry child but she wouldn't do it to feed herself.

I could be wrong but that's how I see it....

Jacks 8)

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by Margi on Sep 19th, 2003, 8:47am
Jmin,

I have to comment here.  If you don't understand why we would would risk breaking laws to help a clusterhead prevent going back into pain, then you don't understand the nature of this website and the resulting family it has spawned.

Jonny and I don't see eye to eye on much anymore, but....he is a clusterhead.  My husband is a clusterhead, too.  Jonny built us a regulator for our O2 tank and shipped it up here for us.  Now, my husband has some left over lithium that may or may not make it through customs and across the border.  It would be safer and probably much easier if we could find some in the states for Jonny, but if we can't, then we'll try to ship it from here.  

Jonny got some pain free time this year and now he's running out of meds that could keep him there.  Am I going to help prevent that if I can, regardless of all the angry words we've spoken to each other in the recent past?  Hell yeah I am.  This is different than fighting with each other.  This is fighting on the same team to fight the beast.  Whole different ball game in that regard.

Would I risk legal consequences to fight the beast for any clusterhead in trouble?  Say it with me now.... Hell, yeah!  

edit:  there are some that the shroom therapy has failed here (my hubby is one of them), and there are those who may just not want to pursue that route.  Further, if the person has been on other meds for a long time, as Jonny has, it's a really bad idea to try this route without detoxing first.  Some folks also have personal reasons for not wanting to try the shrooms.  

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by Ree on Sep 19th, 2003, 8:53am
wooooooooooo hooooooooooooooo margi you go girl...

I wish we could help.... Dave has Neurontin and plenty of imatrex injections if you need em we're hopin his cycle is over but he got hit last night... had a pain free week though....We are right up the street remember that...  

Call us if there is anything else we can do jonny...

...............................................ree

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by jminmilwaukee on Sep 19th, 2003, 9:14am
No argument over the do anything for a fellow Clusterhead. No Argument over the tried and did not work or personal choices.

Just don't give me that "I can't try it because my family, job, life is much to important to me to risk" argument (pertaining to shrooms).

I would suspect that the majority of those who feel that way would also not risk the prescription thing.

I understand why someone would risk 10 years and 250,000 dollars to do this. If you read my earlier posts in this thread you would see that I pointed that out.

The mother baby thing is a bit of a stretch though. Would you steal food for your baby if it meant your baby could end up doing hard time also?

Anyway, enough said. Just be carefull out there. I would suggest you take this kind of help "underground" as I would not put it past the DEA to monitor these types of transactions over the web.

One last thing, the whole FAMILY argument is getteng rather old for me. I am the drunken uncle, remember?

Geeze.......

jmin

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by Margi on Sep 19th, 2003, 9:22am

on 09/19/03 at 09:14:48, jminmilwaukee wrote:
... the whole FAMILY argument is getteng rather old for me.
Geeze.......

jmin


Then you really DON'T get it.  :( Make plans to go meet another clusterhead.  You'll change your mind, I guarantee it.


Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by Ree on Sep 19th, 2003, 9:33am

 Dave being one of those that doesnt want to try the shrooms because his job would be at stake... He drives tractor trailer for the USPS and has to have prescriptions for everything he takes and is drug tested constantly...

ps why do we always have to have someone bring negativity to a thread.... this started out to be an awesome thread......... negative....... negative...... negative jim from milwalkee........our family is fine here thankyou.........
maybe a change in meds is due for you dear... ree

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by Jackie on Sep 19th, 2003, 9:34am

on 09/19/03 at 09:14:48, jminmilwaukee wrote:
One last thing, the whole FAMILY argument is getteng rather old for me. I am the drunken uncle, remember?





LMAO.....I'm thinking your might be the drunken uncle with wart hog tendencies..... ;D  

Serious now.....appreciate the warning..we'll 'be careful out there'

Jacks 8)

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by Bob P on Sep 19th, 2003, 9:37am
JM,
Who cares?  Is it our business if people don't want to grow shrooms for whatever reason?  I know it's none of my business.  I'm not even sure the people sharing meds are the same ones that won't grow.  It doesn't matter anyway.  Everyone is responsible for their own decisions for whatever reasons they choose.

Come to the board and tell us how well the shrooms work for you but don't judge others for not wanting to try it.

That said, I will add that any woman who hasn't tried indocin is nuts!

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by jminmilwaukee on Sep 19th, 2003, 9:50am
You are absolutely right.

It is none of my buisness and to each their own.

Sorry for the negativity, not intentional.

Just be carefull, Dave will have a hard time driving truck if he's doing hard time.

This was not a judgement, just a question of where does one draw the line concerning legalities, thats all.

And for the I don't get it thing, I do. I take and give to and from this board what works best for me. Just because this sometimes goes against the grain does justify "You don't get it".

We all make choices, right or wrong depends on an optinion or perspective. Unfortunatly, the law does not make that distinction.

Anyway, I am rambling now.

Jonny is taken care of which is really the important issue here (I mean  that, no sarcasm).

Peace out 8)

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by Roxy on Sep 19th, 2003, 10:19am
Dammit jonny....wish I had some lith.  I have verap, cafergot, trex and maxalt........everything but what you need.

I'm sorry....... :'(

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by nancyc on Sep 19th, 2003, 10:39am
Bro, my friend is no longer in practice or i would be able to help you out...will keep my antennaes up though and see what i can find .smiles,nancyc  

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by hopefull on Sep 19th, 2003, 12:36pm
Hope you get what ever you need......and trouble doesn't follow.....

Wait a minute this Jonny .....I have a feeling trouble follows him everywhere..... :-/

Feel Better!

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by cathy on Sep 19th, 2003, 12:48pm
Jonny glad you got sorted out....sending you a huge SMOOOCH anyhow just for the hell of it...

Cathy  ;D

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by Loris on Sep 19th, 2003, 1:13pm

on 09/18/03 at 19:18:45, jonny wrote:
Never asked for and never planned too.

But switching insurance companies has me in a ringer, 4 weeks to see a pcp and six to see the Neuro that diagnosed me....I have about six days of meds and thats tapering so I dont crash and burn when they run out.

I went 9 weeks with only three HA's and now that I have to taper down im getting nailed.

All im asking is that if you have any lithium contact me...the verapamil I have comming "Thank you my friend"

Dont mind me...im a chronic that dont want to see that side of the street again.....

...........................................jonny



Hello Jonny,
I take Lithium and Verapamil, If you want I can arrange with Zaira and we’ll send you a little. Regards, Loris




Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by jonny on Sep 19th, 2003, 2:16pm
Now thats what i love to see....A family come together and brawl....LMMFAO ;D

Thank you each and evey one of you for your offers.....I have worked it out and will be all set soon. im going to start back with my correct dose today seeing that I sat in a highway rest stop in a pain I have not felt since the no med days, man!, did I get some fucking looks...LOL...long haired, tattooed crazy freak squeezing head, pacing around his truck in the rain swearing....ROTFF ;D...even my last zomig wouldnt touch this fucker. the only good thing was that it only lasted 45 mins.

Again, thank you so very much  :'(

Now that im here stop the damn brawling before I put my boot in someones ass!!! ;D

.................................jonny

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by Melissa on Sep 19th, 2003, 2:29pm

on 09/19/03 at 09:37:50, Bob P wrote:
That said, I will add that any woman who hasn't tried indocin is nuts!


Taking the bait here, I suppose that means I'm nuttier than a fruitcake... :-[  Exactly WHY is it women should try indocin?  Is it cause women don't get clusters? ::)

:P

;D



Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by cootie on Sep 19th, 2003, 2:32pm
DON'T quote me if I'm wrong....but aren't shrooms consider'd more of the halucinagin's type drug with stiffer fine then lithium would be ? Did I explain that right......I mean I'd worry about sendin them or TALKING ABOUT SENDING THEM IN PUBLIC then the lithium deal. So I guess I am jus tryin tame yer worries jmin and not sure I did a very good job at explainin myself tho....sorry. Pam that thinks ya need ta worry bout sum stuff but not others as much  :-/

Sorry jonny no lithium here or you'd be MORE then welcome to it if we did !

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by jminmilwaukee on Sep 19th, 2003, 3:30pm
Yes, I am sure that shrooms are much stiffer penalty.

Just forget I said anything bout anything regarding this and get Jonny his meds.

He almost sounded happy there for a minute!!!!

Jeff who brings up deep conversations and viewpoints that go against the grain ane ends up getting nowhere but put back into his place after trying to make a point that nobody but jeff can understand.

Perhaps I should try some of the drugs you all are taking, I may then see the light  8)

(damn kids)

Jmin - Your drunken uncle

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by jonny on Sep 19th, 2003, 3:34pm
LMAO....Jeff ;D

Good one

..........................jonny

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by Bob P on Sep 19th, 2003, 3:38pm

Quote:
Is it cause women don't get clusters?


Well, yes and no.  It's because:
1.)  CPH mimics CH.
2.)  CPH is more of a woman's afflictionand CH more of a man's.
3.)  Indocin is almost 100% effective against CPH.
4.)  Some women with CPH are suffering needlessly because they are treating it like CH.
5.)  Indocin is cheap with few side effects.
6.)  Women don't get clusters!

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by ebk3 on Sep 19th, 2003, 3:50pm
Hey, Bro I sent u a PM so I guess your taken care of Great!!

Gene

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by cootie on Sep 19th, 2003, 4:17pm
Jmin is our " ISSUE BOY "......hey.....everyone has a spot......There's always gonna be an issue Pam  

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by jminmilwaukee on Sep 19th, 2003, 5:02pm
Hey Cottie! I resent that remark!

It is issue MAN and don't you forget it.  8)

Don't make me come down on you girl.

:o

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by 5-string on Sep 19th, 2003, 5:12pm
Jonny,
I don't have lithium, only verapamil, Imitrex(nasal)and 02.
 I'm happy to share what I have if you need...
e-mail me.
...Mark...

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by Cerberus on Sep 20th, 2003, 10:13am
J,

I.M. me if you need anything I got, No Lithium tho, never had it. I just got hit this a.m. with a fresh cycle, shadowing ever since. PF and good luck to ya bro, my thoughts are with you man.

Ramon

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by badfly on Sep 21st, 2003, 4:32am
Well Jim I for one understand your point and dont find it negative at all ! I think shrooms have negative connetations in our society today and pharma drugs are kosher (normal and ok). Personaly I am suspicious of any pharma drug and place VERY negative connotations on them. I guess what I am trying to say is that everyone is looking in with that distinctly individual outlook that has been developed over many years, generations and cultures. If this forum was in chineese, I bet the majority of ppl here would be freaking over Imitrex but happy to discuss growing methods for all their herbs and funghi.

Just a little perspective from John. He cant spell, but boy can he roll.

Title: Re: Wanna help?
Post by badfly on Sep 21st, 2003, 4:34am
PS: Jonny, sorry the beast is on you case so much of late, but really glad the family is pulling it together for you. These kinda threads are my favorites !!



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