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(Message started by: Jewel on Sep 12^th, 2003, 9:32am)

Title: Women: Is it true?
Post by Jewel on Sep 12^th, 2003, 9:32am

That clusters are worse than child birth?

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by kbbogo1 on Sep 12^th, 2003, 9:48am

Indeed! Even worse than 2 root canals with no novicane. That was a pretty tight call, though.

The good thing is that I never had any clusters (or migraines) while pregnant. Clusters came back with a vengence within a week of giving birth. Sometimes I think the epidural triggered it.

Kim B

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by CryingInPain on Sep 12^th, 2003, 9:55am

I would answer this with a ....BIG HELL YEH! hehe

I did not have natural Child Birth but I did lay in labor for 16 weeks on meds stopping the birth only to end up with an emergency C-Section and whoaaaaa I would rather have 10 more of those then 1 more HA

~Hugs~
Jen

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by catlind on Sep 12^th, 2003, 10:05am

I went through childbirth 3 times, twice with epidurals and one natural. On the pain scale natural childbirth hits an 8 and a full blown CH hits a 10.

I think for me the biggest issue is that at the end of the pain of childbirth you have something wonderful (for a short time at least, then teen years hit ;) ) whereas at the end of a CH you have only the knowledge of the next CH to come.

Cat

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by Jewel on Sep 12^th, 2003, 10:11am

on 09/12/03 at 10:05:03, catlind wrote:

...at the end of the pain of childbirth you have something wonderful...whereas at the end of a CH you have only the knowledge of the next CH to come.

Very true.

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by Bob P on Sep 12^th, 2003, 10:19am

Good thread.

Hope you women don't mind if I collect these responses for future reference and display, perhaps on the OUCH site.

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by Jewel on Sep 12^th, 2003, 10:26am

Not at all. ;D

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by catlind on Sep 12^th, 2003, 10:31am

collect away Bob :)

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by 9erfan on Sep 12^th, 2003, 10:32am

I thought women didn't get clusters?? :o

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by Jewel on Sep 12^th, 2003, 10:34am

LOL That's funny because during my first appointment with a neurologist, she told me that it was very unlikely that I have CHs because I'm female. They are supposedly "uncommon" in women.

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by UnsolvedEquation on Sep 12^th, 2003, 10:38am

I'm not a female ... so I can't compare it to childbirth...but it sure is alot worse than broken bones and kidney stones! (They hurt a lil' too)

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by Jewel on Sep 12^th, 2003, 10:50am

Worse than a yeast infection? Uhhhhhh.....I dunno. What do you ladies think? :o ;D :o ;D

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by kim on Sep 12^th, 2003, 11:41am

Uh......... ;D-ANYway, Childbirth was cake compared to ch. Childbirth hurts and then your eva so happy and it's OVER. Clusters are relentless - pain over and over. It's two completely different kinds of pain. I'd rather have a baby than clusters.

That probably made no sense, but whaddya expect from this poster ;D

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by Seth on Sep 12^th, 2003, 11:45am

:) there is one thing that I have found out that hurts more , and that is see your own child get hurt.

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by 9erfan on Sep 12^th, 2003, 11:49am

Yep, I've had a Dr. tell me I didn't have clusters because I am a woman also. What a jackass!

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by tsayswhy on Sep 12^th, 2003, 12:12pm

told me the same there are more men then women"but" also said he has been seeing more and more women each year. maybe god thought child birth wasn't painfull enough so he thought he would challenged alittle more
lol. that makes us pretty tough women ;D

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by Jewel on Sep 12^th, 2003, 12:38pm

We are tough women!! :)

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by Lori on Sep 12^th, 2003, 12:59pm

Had two kids, it hurt alot but I didn't feel like I wanted to die like I do with a cluster! It is a different pain for sure.

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by aprilbee on Sep 12^th, 2003, 1:02pm

Child birth was a breeze compared to CH, I had nurses in amazement because I never even so much as wimpered, and Kim's right, at the end you totally forget the pain because you get this precious gift at the end of all of it, you get jack squat after a CH except an ugly face, ugly hair, and a sore ass from sitting in the shower.... :)

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by ozzman on Sep 12^th, 2003, 1:09pm

on 09/12/03 at 10:38:01, UnsolvedEquation wrote:

I'm not a female ... so I can't compare it to childbirth...but it sure is alot worse than broken bones and kidney stones! (They hurt a lil' too)

LOL, Same here. Cracked ribs and lots of Kidney Stones. No comparison. I never tried to punch my ribs to make it go away or my kidneys for that matter....

Ozzy

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by Karla on Sep 12^th, 2003, 1:49pm

I gave birth to twins naturaly an hour in a half apart with complications inbetween. I would still say clusters are worse.

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by suzy617 on Sep 12^th, 2003, 1:50pm

Well I slept thru having my babies. Too bad I couldnt sleep thru my CH's.

Suzy

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by Mastifflvr28 on Sep 12^th, 2003, 8:50pm

MUCH rather have a kids then a ch. Wouldn't wanna keep 'em, but I'd give birth to 'em.

Mast

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by Melissa on Sep 12^th, 2003, 9:09pm

after having a baby 2 & 1/2 months ago, I'd say HELL YES! Having Elijah was a piece of cake compared to the torment of my CH's!

:)mel

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by goaway on Sep 13^th, 2003, 8:09am

on 09/12/03 at 10:05:03, catlind wrote:

I think for me the biggest issue is that at the end of the pain of childbirth you have something wonderful (for a short time at least, then teen years hit ;) ) whereas at the end of a CH you have only the knowledge of the next CH to come.

Cat

And don't forget that you always have us!

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by Tim_w on Sep 13^th, 2003, 8:09am

The only thing I can think of that compares to the pain of CH is a broken heart :'(
Different pain but hurts like hell !
Timw

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by goaway on Sep 13^th, 2003, 8:18am

Hang in there Timbo buddy!

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by suzy617 on Sep 13^th, 2003, 8:29am

Yes Tim a broken heart is as bad as CH but that too eventually passes... you dont think so at the time but it does.

Suzy

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by cathy on Sep 13^th, 2003, 1:21pm

...I've had 4 children, 3 labours...twins in 50 minutes.... :o anyhow...I don't get CH and Wes said he never felt a thing.....so yep I reckon CH is much worse than childbirth :)

Tim_w...sorry you got a broken heart. :'(

Cathy

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by Zonie on Sep 13^th, 2003, 2:20pm

It's absolutely true....CHs are much worse than childbirth. Intensity of the pain is similar to giving birth to my 8+ pound daughter breech. But when it was over, it was over...and having clusters is like giving birth 3, 4, 5, or 6 times a day....not much fun at all. I'd trade my clusters for child birth any day of the week.

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by nancyc on Sep 13^th, 2003, 4:33pm

I was in labor for 51 hours...and that is why I only have one child...but one ch is more painful than the entire 51 hours i spent in labor...pretty scary , huh? smiles,nancyc ps wish some docs could understand this.

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by ClusterChuck on Sep 13^th, 2003, 5:28pm

on 09/13/03 at 14:20:51, Zonie wrote:

having clusters is like giving birth 3, 4, 5, or 6 times a day....not much fun at all. I'd trade my clusters for child birth any day of the week.

Wait a minute here!!! I have heard this line before!!

What I wanna know is, who the hell is gonna be able to AFFORD and care for THAT many kids???

Let's see, take the lowest number, 3 a day ... ummmm 3 times 365 equals a shitload of kids !!! heeheee ..

(that's 1095 kids for those that don't wanna pull out their calculators)

And with THAT many kids, I think the CH might be the LAST of your worries!!! heehee ...

Chuck

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by taraann on Sep 14^th, 2003, 8:28am

I must agree....having a baby is much nicer than having a CH, having a baby you totally forget about the pain once you have that gift in your arms. CH i never forget the pain even when its done.

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by Spindrift on Sep 14^th, 2003, 4:36pm

A most interesting thread, and highly informative for this person who will never experience either the pleasure or the pain of childbirth. Must admit I'd been skeptical of the claim that CHs were as bad as giving birth. But no longer.

Now how about the other pain I'd heard compared to our common woe: amputation without anesthesia.

Any comments?

sd

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by zanychef on Sep 15^th, 2003, 3:11am

I AM NOT CHOPPING MY ARM/LEG OFF TO SEE IF IT HURTS MORE!!!

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by hopefull on Sep 15^th, 2003, 7:48am

with child birth there is a beginning and end...don't feel that way about CH's...my kids were 8- 2oz, 9-10oz , and 8-8oz...all had to be pulled from my body ...long labors...a cake walk compared to clusters.....had a couple weeks of hell with my second...CH for a straight 2 weeks...Didn't know i had clusters then thought they were just bad migrains...no meds and preg....stayed in bed the whole time....while try'n to keep up with 4 year old...

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by Kenzie60 on Sep 15^th, 2003, 10:24am

I have had 4 children and was in hard labor for 48 hours with no medication before they finally decided to do a C-section. I would rather do that everyday than have a CH. Ch pain is much worse than childbirth.

Roseanne

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by fubar on Sep 15^th, 2003, 11:29am

If you can imagine your leg from the knee down being rotated 360 degrees (full circle), basically ripping almost every tendon and ligament to shreds, only to have one bastard ligament hold on tight enough to the patella (knee cap) so that it shot *back* around with enough force to shatter it *and* the femur... well that happened to me. I was told I'd never walk normally on the leg again (who siad I ever walked normally anyway). The pain was, at the time, more than I'd ever experienced. More than anyone should experience. It's not like having a baby, but I can't imagine a baby would be worse.

Then I got clusters and found out what pain was.

-Fu

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by 9erfan on Sep 15^th, 2003, 12:16pm

Fu-

All I can say is WOW!

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by Smurf on Sep 15^th, 2003, 1:03pm

Since I'm a woman, too, and can't have clusters ;)

Never had a baby, but they're worse than:

*migraines :o
*CRUSHED foot (and all the surgery and therapy that followed) :'(
* yes, yeast infections
*bladder infections - even to the point of bleeding ::)

I think if you know the cause of something, it's easier to deal with it.
-Smurf

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by Jewel on Sep 15^th, 2003, 1:36pm

Wow.

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by ZAIRA on Sep 15^th, 2003, 1:54pm

I don’t know ;D ...... I have spoken with women CH sufferers from OUCH Italia and they said me that the childbirth is better than CH.

Ciao, Zaira

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by StanTheMan on Sep 15^th, 2003, 2:55pm

Most interesting thread....(especially since my wife just gave birth...)

You know, I think there might be some additional value to the testimonials given by the female CH sufferers here.

Is there any way these types of testimonials could be summarized, quantified and forwarded to health insurance companies to (some how, some way) give these folks an additional CLUE!?!?
There's gotta a be a sizable number of female executives or senior managers that have had a child or two.

Maybe I'm off base, or just dreaming, but I can't help but think that this kind of information might help bring some perspective to this vastly under-estimated and understood disorder.

Whaddya think, clusterville? Has anything like this been kicked around?

Regards to all and PFDAN....

StanTheMan

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by jonny on Sep 15^th, 2003, 2:58pm

Im still waiting for someone to post "Dude, I had my arm ripped off in a bike accident and it didnt hurt as much as CH"

Have yet to see that person post.....LOL ;D

.............................jonny

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by fubar on Sep 15^th, 2003, 7:04pm

Jonny,

For all intents and purposes, I *did* have my leg ripped off. There was an alarming amount of damage.

Ch is worse.

I don't know why, but in serious injuries, you seem to be able to deal. Like the pain sort of becomes detached from your body and you know it's there but it doesn't really matter because you're quickly going into protective mode (doctors call it shock.)

The thing is, CH doesn't seem to trigger this protection.

-Fu

Title: Re: Women: Is it true?
Post by brain_cramps on Sep 15^th, 2003, 9:06pm

Shattered heel (7 breaks / about 20 pieces)
3 broken toes
80% of ligaments in foot torn
stretched achilles tendon

just a 'hop in the park' compared to CH