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(Message started by: Svenn on Aug 23^rd, 2003, 2:26pm)

Title: About Clusterville :'(
Post by Svenn on Aug 23^rd, 2003, 2:26pm

Hi there friends

My personal feeling is there is somebody here trying to kill clusterville.Cant you see folks that we already has lost to many cornerstones here?
How many more can we afford to loose?

Svenn :'(

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by jonny on Aug 23^rd, 2003, 2:39pm

Its me I confess ive been here everyday for four years trying to kill clustervile and I have not been able to.

LMMFAO ;D

..................................jonny :D

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by ave on Aug 23^rd, 2003, 3:13pm

I dunno, Sven. Jonny is here. Pam is here. DJ is here. Don is here. I am here and you are here...

Seriously, what I mean is... Clusterville exists as long as there are people with clusters willing to listen to each other.

In my view ANYBODY who comes here and meets those two requirements is a cornerstone of clusterville.
Could be wrong of course. Anybody here more important than the next sufferer?

Title: watchin the river
Post by rumplestiltskin on Aug 23^rd, 2003, 3:20pm

this is so ludicrous.

I have so many good smart-ass posts waiting in the wings....butt I'm being a good boy cause DJ pulled the threads which started this folderol...which says to me that he has said "subject closed".

Folks keep dregging it back up veiled under all kinds of subjects. The bottom line here for me is that the webmaster closed the discussion.

I strongly suggest you visit this post.

Whoops...OK..here. I don't have the exact URL...A visit to the archives will do ya good anyhow. Look for:

"Posted by DJ (198.247.7.54) on November 12, 1999 at 19:27:07 "

One day the "board" just disappeared. DJ shut it down. The above link was a wakeup call that noone with any concern for Clusterheads wants to repeat.

Hello
den

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by kim on Aug 23^rd, 2003, 4:09pm

Den, I'm rite behind ya. Oh, and I'm so glad you took the smileys off yer forehead. You look much betta now.

Tarzana the rope swinger.

Walk in the dirt.

Every day eat a stikabuddahwitsomeseasawlt. ..............It's good forya!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by OneEyeBlind on Aug 23^rd, 2003, 4:19pm

Kim, think you said it all !!!!! ;)

Title: whoops
Post by rumplestiltskin on Aug 23^rd, 2003, 4:54pm

I had the wrong link earlier in my first post. I gave it a different map....one to the archives. A place every good Clusterbud should visit....

Enjoy the trip
den

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by stevegeebe on Aug 23^rd, 2003, 5:21pm

Hey Svenn,

Clusters don't kill us. Than all is well.

Just going through some shit now. I don't know what its all about but from what I know about our family, I'm not worried in the least.

It's kinda like a real family. Steve G

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by Charlie on Aug 23^rd, 2003, 5:24pm

Time to let it go. I never really understood it anyway.

These characters will be back. Too much good stuff going on here, like it or not.

Everyone start over. What's to lose? Clusterheads need each other.

Snarl.

Charlie

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by Big_Dan on Aug 23^rd, 2003, 5:56pm

... I've said it before, and I'll say it again...

just because a couple of monkeys ran away, doesn't mean the circus is shutting down...

-Big Dan

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by Hooter on Aug 23^rd, 2003, 6:52pm

Good God!
Somebody is trying to kill Clusterville? That's just plain silly. Someone may be trying to cause division because they are hurt but this site is too big to be killed by this. I am currently suffering from what is known here as a 'virus of the vine' (i.e. I speak and hang the consequences because I'll be sober in the morning)

I saw trouble that brewed and stewed over a VERY long time, then exploded when the behaviour became visible and real rather than cyber. I saw (not for the first time) needy people who tried to get more from the site than it is possible for even the best website in the world to offer. That need was bugger all to do with CH but is utterly human. Expectations like this are bound sooner or later to be demolished by reality. This is a website, with (on a good day) wonderful information, kindness and support. IT IS NOT A REAL LIFE, IT IS NOT A COUNSELLING SERVICE, IT IS NOT A MEDICAL MIRACLE CURE, IT IS NOT A LONELY HEARTS CLUB, IT IS NOT A SAFE SUBSTITUTE WHEN REAL LIFE IS BAD, IT IS NOT EVEN A PLACE TO MAKE REAL FRIENDS-THAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU REALLY MEET PEOPLE AND GET TO KNOW THEM.

When people's expectations/hopes/illusions are shattered (as mine were) you have two choices. Understand and accept the site for what it is and deal with it, or fuck off and get a life of which this site is but a part.

Some unfortunate behaviour has happened, then really harsh words have resulted. I know I speak euphemistically here and I am sorry if this frustrates people, but I still don't regret one word of the posts of mine that were deleted about not publishing people's private lives for public consumption.

I am happy to be part of this board and also happy that it is a valuable part of my life, but I only ask it to give me what it was set up to do. No more, no less.

W the B

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by stevegeebe on Aug 23^rd, 2003, 7:05pm

Bully.

Steve G

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by Hooter on Aug 23^rd, 2003, 7:13pm

Who is a bully Steve?

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by Kirk on Aug 23^rd, 2003, 7:47pm

Let's see. Svenn's here so is ted, don, MarkC, Charlie, Nancy, Elaine, jonny etc.
Nope it's not dying off ol friend. Ya gotta stop smoking that Herring ya Viking. It's getting to you ;D

TTFN

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by stevegeebe on Aug 23^rd, 2003, 8:16pm

Bully...like TR. Like ..yes I agree.

Steve G

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by Hooter on Aug 23^rd, 2003, 8:24pm

Sorry! It's one of those "we both speak English but not the same language" moments. I have quite a few of those on this site, even when I'm sober!

Hooter (means 'nose' here not tit) now off to put the dustbin out on the pavement and the suitcase in the boot of the car, sit on my bum, and put my last fag in my gob.

I think the words you would need are:
Trashcan, sidewalk, trunk, fanny (much ruder part of the body here), and cigarette.

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by OneEyeBlind on Aug 23^rd, 2003, 8:38pm

LOL Hooter ....... when will you English get the words right ??? We sent Fenny home with the proper ENGLISH vocab. Make sure you two visit and get Americanized properly !!!!!!!!!! I know what to do with my knife and fork ........... do you know what to do with your fanny ?????????? (ask Fenny about that one). LOL. Luv ya loads.

As for the board ............ I'm still here. And so are a ton of others. Anyone who left is more than welcome back..... we all take breaks now and then.

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by katethecelt on Aug 23^rd, 2003, 10:58pm

Hiya Svenn,

I was separated from my computer (sob) at the time & didn't see the posts. It's of no consequence as I've said before, I can't imagine leaving.

Good Vibes to you my friend,
Kate

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by Charlie on Aug 23^rd, 2003, 11:09pm

I'll have been here 3 years in September. Since then we've had some nasty shit and we're still here. A lot of that was political.....in all the ways that can mean but DJ knows when it's time to come home.

As Kirk said, most of us are here. Others will find the way back too. Take it from MOC.

Charlie

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by Mastifflvr28 on Aug 24^th, 2003, 12:10am

W the B says:

Quote:

IT IS NOT EVEN A PLACE TO MAKE REAL FRIENDS-THAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU REALLY MEET PEOPLE AND GET TO KNOW THEM.

Wendy, do you really mean this??

One of my very best friends in the world I met HERE. Then I met her in real life. She is the strongest person in the world, that I know of.

And she just deleted her profile.
Elaine :-[

Mast

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by Linda_Howell on Aug 24^th, 2003, 1:53am

I have no idea of what you all are talking about, but I'm still here..............................

Linda

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by Hooter on Aug 24^th, 2003, 2:53am

Yes Mast I do. It's a personal view but online people can be anything they choose to be, use other's words as their own, hide behing personas that aren't them. When you actually meet them, all your intuition can be used because you see their eyes, hear their voices, see their body language and really get to know who they really are and what they are really like. For me, a really true friendship where I can trust the person can't happen until I have done this.
It doesn't mean I don't value 'virtual' friendships, I just couldn't ever see them as the same as 'real' ones where I feel I really know the person.
For me this is also why meeting people in person who I have talked to by computer is difficult because so many illusions could be shattered. The opposite of course can happen, when someone surprises you wonderfully and you find a soul mate.

I just think it is dangerous to try and plug emotional gaps in your life with a site like this as I think a few people have.

W the B

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by Svenn on Aug 24^th, 2003, 5:39am

Its 2 things here in this thread!!

1 Most of you dont understand what i tried to say

2 You refuse or dont want to understand what i tried to say

3 Some of you refuse to see or are not able to see whats going on here in Clusterville

With my "babelfishenglish" i have no other way to try and explain what i`m meaning

So if you mean that i should get the fuck out of here i will.

Thats entire up to you all

I have made som marvelous friends here so i can talk with them in another fora

Svenn

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by Patrick_A on Aug 24^th, 2003, 6:02am

I dont think anybody means harm to you Svenn. I think people CANNOT feel text like they CAN feel the emotion of spoken words. What Wendy said holds a lot of truth, but of course its not altogether true. Best friends can be made on the internet. Love can be found on the internet.
I personally hate what is happening, BUT, I also think CH.com is way to large to die because of dissent among a few people. In fact i am sure it will not die. No, it may not be what you liked it to be. But it may be what someone else likes it to be!
I am just another CH sufferer like you. I have no plans to go anywhere. I will offer my support, and i will ask for support from time to time. We all have so much to share, and we all have our own little needs. CH.com is not normally my LIFE, but at the moment, i need it! I hope to not need it soon! But i will hang around because i have learned the importance of SUPPORTING others!

PFDAN to everyone, Patrick

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by Hooter on Aug 24^th, 2003, 8:42am

Hey Svenn

I'm so sorry, the comments weren't in any way directed at you and I am sorry it seemed that way, I hadn't realised. Your post was sort of a jumping off point. I believe and hope you are wrong that someone is actually trying to destroy 'Clusterville', I just think often these rifts occur because CH.com means so much to a lot of people, for loads of different reasons. Some of these reasons are great like information, CH support, ideas, new developments, social interaction of some kinds, humour etc etc and in my personal view 'beneficial'. The ones I highlighted above are, again in my view, not such a good idea because the person concerned sooner of later will be disappointed or worse. Of course I could not possibly name anyone here as it is purely my own view and based on impressions.

Others, i.e. the recent leavers didn't seem to fall in this category, they seem to me more to be desperately wounded by what must feel to them like treachery when they have given so much of themselves to this site and to others. I just hope when the hurt has dulled a bit or they have 'had it out' behind the scenes somehow they feel able to come back.

Sorry again Svenn. Absolutely no intent on my part to associate you personally with the views I expressed.

Wendy the Brit

Title: hello/goodbye club
Post by rumplestiltskin on Aug 24^th, 2003, 10:36am

The long list of people that have come and gone at this site is staggering. Some have come and gone many times.

I have just returned from a long visit to the 1999 archives. The number of marvelous scientists and humorists that I considered "friends" who no longer post here saddened me. I hope they are well. I'm glad that I can still e-mail them. I saw some of my posts. Boy... I said some stupid things. My comments reflected only where I was on that day.

BUTT...thanks to DJ...the wisdom and humor and stupidity remains there in the archives for us all to partake of.

I can only deal with one day at a time. I have, as we all do, the choice to click or not to click on CH.COM. Noone forces me either way. Now...do I hit "post" or not.....

love
den

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by SommelierCH on Aug 24^th, 2003, 12:32pm

Svenn,

I seem to always piss people off. But, I don’t think that I have driven anyone away from this board.

I always look forward to reading your posts. You are family!!!! Enough said.

Peace my friend, peace,
David J.

P.S. If nothing else, we NEED you for the “heads up” alerts, you give to us, about computer viruses and stuff we don’t hear about in the States. You have saved my ass several times, by warning us ahead of time. Don’t quit on us now.

Leaves fall off the tree, but they grow back next year.

Love you, (the only man I know, that after a heart-attack still swears by cigs and coffee) Rock on dude!

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by jonny on Aug 24^th, 2003, 2:45pm

on 08/23/03 at 20:38:12, OneEyeBlind wrote:

do you know what to do with your fanny ?????????? (ask Fenny about that one).

Ill have to ask about this....could be intresting....Hmmmmm....LOL ;D

...............................jonny

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by Charlie on Aug 24^th, 2003, 6:32pm

I don't think anyone is trying to "kill" Clusterville. Too hard to do and ain’t gonna happen. We grab newbies and indoctrinate them before they have a chance to see just how wacko we are. Poor dopes.

I must have missed something really shitty or else I'm no longer able to comprehend. If all this started with the boring nonsense last week... what an incredible waste. I met some of you. You come off as a pretty decent bunch when you’re not looking.

I've been in the archives a bit too. Den's right. It's amazing how many no longer post, but: Since I came here, almost exactly three years ago, old farts like Den, Georgia, Jonny, (soon to be an old fart too: Svenn) and most of us crabby whiners are still here. Time to rejoin the fold and take your beating.

In many ways you’re making this hard on some of those who stay and have no idea WTF this is all about.

Really Mean Old Charlie

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by Elaine on Aug 24^th, 2003, 8:11pm

Sometimes the darnest things happen! I pulled a Ted hit that delete button instead of the darn change profile button ::)! Well crap happens!

Hey to the oranginal post here. You know what svenn I love ya man ! You just keep smiling cause every thing will be ok here in clusterville.

Michelle stop crying!

Wendy there is a lot to what you say. A lot of us have met and a lot of us are good friends here. You are right no one can read expressions here on this board. Its hard to tell who is joking and who isn't and keep up with all the inside jokes here. I know for a fact a lot of my post were taken the wrong way in the past. Its something that happens to us all.

Now I have to run I need a slow screw!

Thats a drink people ;-) Slow gin and orage juice!

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by SommelierCH on Aug 24^th, 2003, 8:20pm

A "Slow Comfortable Screw Up against the Wall" could be your ticket, Elaine.

Add Southern Comfort, and Galiano, (like a Harvey Wallbanger)

David J.

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by CathiP on Aug 24^th, 2003, 8:24pm

Mee TOO, Mee TOO! PLEASE?

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by OneEyeBlind on Aug 24^th, 2003, 8:40pm

Elaine, glad to see you back. Enjoy that slow comfort. Why don't we all have one and call it a Clusterville Party ???????????????

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by Mastifflvr28 on Aug 24^th, 2003, 9:29pm

WHEW ELAINE,
Ok...done crying.
Mast

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by Ted on Aug 24^th, 2003, 10:23pm

Thanks Elaine. I haven't had my Ted pulled in over a month. Cigarettes are on me.

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by Mark C on Aug 24^th, 2003, 10:36pm

on 08/24/03 at 20:11:18, Elaine wrote:

Now I have to run I need a slow screw!

LMAO!!!
;D

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by kim on Aug 25^th, 2003, 1:38pm

LOL, I gotta do a Ted pull ;D and Elaine, savor it ;)

I hope you will stay and continue to do that "teach" thang ya do woman! We don't promise to be good kids, but we will always have a spot in our hear for ya - warm or smarmy ;D

E - good always comes to the top. Sumtimes it don't seem that way, ......BUT IT DOES!!!!!!!! :)

So.........ya comin on the next canoe trip or what? :) Promise I'll make ya laugh ;) And my boat NEVER tips over. It just crashes into rocks and bushes and matey pees pants :D

Title: Re: About Clusterville :'(
Post by Edna on Aug 26^th, 2003, 8:48am

Hey Svenn my pal,
you say:

"My personal feeling is there is somebody here trying to kill clusterville.Cant you see folks that we already has lost to many cornerstones here?
How many more can we afford to loose? "

Sad to say Svenn, but sometimes there are wicked people who choose to visit us and try their best to sink our ship..........I think there are way too many people here who are too smart to let that happen.

And although we have lost many of the "cornerstones" here, thank God that we still have many who are still here.......no need for name mentioning, you already know who you are.

Can we afford to lose?? no, I think not, but I do think......as long as I have breath left and this place exists I'll be a visitor......no matter what rivalry goes on.

And as was well stated, even if this place goes "poof"......I'll still know how to get in contact with my pals I've met here.

AND FOR THE RECORD..............WHO says they can't understand Svenn........I mean by golly.........if he and "I" can understand each other..........nobody has any kind of excuse.............Right dude??

I mean really, Svenn can read a mile a minute now thanks to me.......and it's all English........lol.......although some comments continue to come in with broken lettering....hehehehehe ;)

Luv ya Svenn, and I'll know you're stickin around,

hugs to ya,
pf wishes for all,
EDNA