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(Message started by: Jackie on Aug 1^st, 2003, 7:38pm)

Title: Try it......might just help!
Post by Jackie on Aug 1^st, 2003, 7:38pm

This should probably be on the meds. board but I want to make sure you all see it.....especially the newbies.....

My hubby, Blake, is a chronic. :'( He's been getting hit at night..nothing unusual in that. He has limited success with the script meds. and has had no success with the home remedies......until now (we hope). Last night I handed him a Dramamine and said TAKE IT....he humored me and swallowed it along with his usual handful of prevent meds....which haven't been working well at all. To make a long story short(er) he got 10 hours of uninterruped sleep. :D We are giving the Dramamine credit........for now. If you all haven't taken Dramamine it might be worth a try...can't hurt... :)

Jacks 8)

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by Jimi on Aug 1^st, 2003, 7:46pm

Hi Jacks,
I got your email. Still in remission. The longest remission ever. I am glad to hear Dramamine worked for him. I believe it was Margi that used to swear by it. I tried it, but all it did for me was make the cluster already a 7 before I came awake. Sure helped me go right back to sleep though when it was over. Caught myself dozing off with the mask still on a couple of times. But 10 hours of uninterupted sleep is a godsend when you have them nightly. Hope it continues to work. :)

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by jonny on Aug 1^st, 2003, 7:46pm

10 hours?

Im drooling here, I havent seen 10 hours in over 20 years.

GO Blake!!!!

....................................jonny

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by Jackie on Aug 1^st, 2003, 7:55pm

Wonderful to hear about your long remission, Jimi....I'm thinking you've outgrown/outrun the beast... :)

I was hoping that since Dramamine is suppose to keep one out of REM sleep he would wake up faster.....before the beast got so far up the Kip scale... :-/

Jonny....Blake says, "take Dramamine, what the hell" ;D

Jacks 8)

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by Elaine on Aug 1^st, 2003, 7:57pm

I used it at the convention. I used it before I got on the plane (cause I get air sick). I was up from 5:30 am Thursday till 5:00 am Friday went to sleep, slept four hours. Friday night I was beat and passed out about 2 am Saturday morning. I did not get hit till Sunday with a cluster, got hit three times that day and night. Monday I thought I was going to come home on a plane(no such luck LOL plane delay) I did not know that and took one guess what I did not get hit. The next day I took one before I got on the plane did not get hit That was Tuesday. I got hit Thursday night.
Margi is pertty smart and so are you. We got to listen to you guys more !

Good Luck Blake! Hugs and kisses!

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by Big_Dan on Aug 1^st, 2003, 8:10pm

Damn.... glad the man got some relief.....

I hope it continues to work for him, and you can shut the damn bastard up anytime you need to...

Here's to your success.... :)

-Big Dan

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by jonny on Aug 1^st, 2003, 8:11pm

Screw that im coming to sleep with Blake, maybe it will rub off....LOL ;D

.............................jonny

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by Jackie on Aug 1^st, 2003, 8:15pm

OK, jonny.....come on sleep with him if you want. I've got to warn you though....he snores louder then a top fuel dragster doing a burn out....same R's and all... ;D

Jacks 8)

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by Patrick_A on Aug 1^st, 2003, 8:52pm

LOL, Just put my shoes on and headed to Walmart for my Dramamine. I'd kill for 4 hours of sleep, much less 10!

Patrick

Title: What is it?
Post by rumplestiltskin on Aug 1^st, 2003, 9:40pm

OKEE DOKEE

Which "dramamine" are we talkin about?

DRAMAMINE:
Antihistaminic, H 1-receptor -- Dimenhydrinate

OR

DRAMAMINE II
Antiemetic --Buclizine OR Cyclizine OR Meclizine

and what dosage?

Gee it appears that it can be taken numerous ways also!

For suppository dosage form:
Adults: 50 to 100 milligrams (mg) inserted into the rectum every six to eight hours as needed.

Clarify please

DEN the pharmacologocal goober

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by Jackie on Aug 1^st, 2003, 9:52pm

Den,

The box says Dimenhydrinate/Antiemetic....50 mg. ea. pill form. It's a generic put out by Family Pharmacy...active ingredient same as Dramamine.

Jacks 8)

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by ShariRae on Aug 1^st, 2003, 10:00pm

I used to with very good success while waiting to get in to see the doc...was a lifesaver for me...allowed me to sleep through the night (yay sleep!)
HUggs
Shari

Title: a dramamine trip?
Post by rumplestiltskin on Aug 1^st, 2003, 10:34pm

shirley you jest!

OK...OK..OK...I live with this egghead girl that is really into finding out the what, whys and wherefores of all substances that effect CH in any way.....and her "research" mania is rubbing off on me...only thing is....I'm great at finding stuff...butt I usually don't understand a word of it....

and now for something completely different:

http://www.erowid.org/pharms/dimenhydrinate/dimenhydrinate_faq.shtml#2.4

Sheerluck den

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by Jackie on Aug 2^nd, 2003, 6:57am

Interesting stuff.......I think ???

Where's Ueli when we need him...... ;)

Jacks 8)

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by don on Aug 2^nd, 2003, 7:18am

I use it every cycle. Always gets me some sleep.

Works best if you sleep in a row boat in the back yard.

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by suzy617 on Aug 2^nd, 2003, 8:01am

Jacks, thanks for the reminder. Next month when my cycle starts >:( I will definitely try it since most of my hits come during the night.

Suzy

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by Jackie on Aug 2^nd, 2003, 6:25pm

Last night another Dramamine......Blake only got one hit and it was low on the Kip Scale....15 minutes or so on the 02 and he was OK....had a smoke and back to bed. I didn't hear a peep out of him for nine (9) hours. Kinda scared me....he never sleeps that long. Something is going on for sure... :D I'll say it again....if you haven't tried the Dramamine go for it....just might work.

Jacks 8)

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by 9erfan on Aug 2^nd, 2003, 6:45pm

Go Blake! That's awesome!

I can't even remember what 10 hours of sleep feels like.

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by Jackie on Aug 2^nd, 2003, 6:58pm

We can't believe it either, Virginia....that's why I keep checking on him all night....kinda like I did the kids when they were babies..... :D

Jacks 8)

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by Prense on Aug 2^nd, 2003, 10:01pm

Hey Jackie...any probs with taking Dramamine for "too" long? Like Tylenol PM, body gets used to it or whatever? Anything that you have read or heard of?

Chris

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by Margi on Aug 3^rd, 2003, 8:55am

psst, hey Jackie.....

TOLD YA!!

so glad to hear that it's helping Blake - it truly is amazing stuff, isn't it? Oh and...honey....maybe YOU should try sleeping when Blake's sleeping too, instead of checking on him. ;)

love ya

Title: me again
Post by rumplestiltskin on Aug 3^rd, 2003, 11:17am

Quote:

The box says Dimenhydrinate/Antiemetic....50 mg. ea. pill form. It's a generic put out by Family Pharmacy...active ingredient same as Dramamine.

hmmmmm

Dramamine:
Dimenhydrinate is supposed to be the Antihistaminic, H 1-receptor kind

and

DramamineII
Buclizine OR Cyclizine OR Meclizine are supposed to be the Antiemetic kind.

Shit...I wish one of our scientist egghead types would jump in here. It would be nice to know if it mattered. Guess I'll shop around and see if there really are choices in the stores.

OK...put O2 in car, put meds in small cooler to keep them from frying in the Texas heat, smokes, keys, coffee, wallet, Indian drum CD.....I'll be right back.

d

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by rumplestiltskin on Aug 3^rd, 2003, 11:18am

fergot my pants

don't move

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by Jackie on Aug 3^rd, 2003, 11:43am

Den.....You got mail......I'm tryin' to get us morons some help here.. ;D

Margi.....Yes, you sure did (told ya) Wish I would have poked it down his throat a long time ago.... ;D ;)
Actually, we did try it once.....more proof that it's a good idea to keep trying....you know the old "if at first" deal...

Jacks 8)

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by Ueli on Aug 3^rd, 2003, 8:12pm

Dimenhydrinate seems to be very popular against travel sickness. Besides Dramamine http://www.rxlist.com/ list lots of other trade names with the same stuff.

Dimenhydrinate depresses the middle-ear function. The middle ear not only tells us where up and down is, but also senses accelerations, the ones that on a ship shake the contents of the stomach up and down. ;) How this connects to the suppression of REM sleep I don't know, but the important thing is it helps prevent CH attacks.

I think one Dramamine a night is pretty save, after all it is recommended for children too.

Another case are people who swallow Dramamine by the fist full, to get a high. For those are the warnings on the Erowid site that Den quoted.

PFNADs
Ueli

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by Ree on Aug 3^rd, 2003, 8:22pm

What a lucky charm Jackie....... we do that with 2 benadryls every night and it worked for a while. Have to get me some dramamine~~ tonight he is takin a 50mg imatrex......... hopefully that will be the lucky charm.........Last night he took an Imagran straight from AVE (thanks AVE) no over night hits~ had an ok day just shadowy.......... i think all the adrenalyn his mom brings out in us keept away the beast... he is asleep on the couch and I am waiting for the wack...with my fingers crossed....knock wood throw salt over my shoulder... rabbits foot........love yas Ree

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by suzy617 on Aug 3^rd, 2003, 8:22pm

So would this be safe to take everynight while in cycle say for 6-8 weeks or would that be harmful since it keeps you out of REM sleep?
I'll be stocking up on them now.

Suzy

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by Mark C on Aug 3^rd, 2003, 8:59pm

I have also used Doxylamine (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/medmaster/a682537.html) sold under the Kroger Brand as a sleep aid. Worked quite well with no bad side effects, and it's cheap!

PFDAN's
Mark

Title: Re: Try it......might just help!
Post by catlind on Aug 4^th, 2003, 6:38am

Suzy, I would think that whether you use the dramamine to stay out of REM sleep, or whether you are awakened from REM sleep by a CH that either way you are not completely REM sleep, so I don't see that there would be much problem.

This is of course just my opinion, and I'm no expert on dramamine or REM sleep hehe.

Cat