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(Message started by: galaxy1 on Jul 27th, 2005, 2:36pm)
Title: Triptans can kill you
Post by galaxy1 on Jul 27th, 2005, 2:36pm
Triptans drugs can kill migraine patients if he will be in a stress situations in time of taken a triptans drugs.......
If he is lucky it can cause a cerebral lessions...
Triptans also cause a high Blood pressure during the time of acting, so it may cause a cerebral bleeding.
You can search the migraine medical archive and you will never find a cerebral lession ar stoke and death of migraine patients before the ERA of TRIPTANS..
You may want more explanation to understand,,
To make the danger of triptans as low as possible, you must know from where the danger comes,,
Triptans works as a strong vasoconstrictore (work on heart vessels and brain also), stress also cause a heart vasoconstrictore, in addition to that you all know that person in stress take alot of coffe ( strong heart vasoconstrictore factore) and Nicotine (smoke) which also heart vasoconstrictore factore.......
Migraine patients which take triptans in such situations can be in a very high risk of heart attack.

How could you say that triptans cant increase risk of heart attack when it cause a strong heart vasoconstrictore, and they wrote inside the triptans box that when patients feel pain in his chest he must stop the treatment but it will be too late,,,,,,

Migraine patients must know how work triptans to make him feel better,,,,
He must know that vasodilatation is resbosable for migraine headache and because of that they give him a triptans that make this vasodilatation stop but by triptans effect as strog vasoconstrictores,,,here is the big danger that every doctors must explain that to his patients,,,,Triptans effect as vasoconstrictore is not selected (not works on the arteries that cause migraine headache but also works on brain and heart arteries) ,,,,
And he must know that any drugs work on heart arteries as vasoconstrictore is very dangerous because it effects goes for a long time which make the posiblility of heart attack is real.....
No one if he think correct can or have wright to talk that triptans cant cause heart attack or worst......
Migraine patients can try any migraine drugs but not TRIPTANS.
When it works as vasoconstricitres on heart vesseles that mean its a poisson,,,,
As known migraine is very common disease, so sportsmens also may have migraine, some patients take triptans to prevent migraine crises,,,so can you think what may be happen, when a sportsmen has a match to play, he has already or he afraid to have migraine crises, so he will take one of triptans drugs,,as he sportsmen he may take 2 tablets to be sure that migraine headaches will sure not disturb his play.....
That mean less blood to supply heart muscle,,,plus emotion that also cause spsm in heart vessels,,,,
Less blood in heart arteries that give heart muscle to contract,,,In addition to that heart will work in maximum effort in sport time,,,.
So we have sure less blood due to vasoconstrictores, and too much need to more blood,,,,,.
You can ask any cardiolog and he will tell you if heart attack in this situation possible or not????????.

Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by floridian on Jul 27th, 2005, 3:15pm
All evidence is that the cerebral lesions are present in migraneurs who have never taken triptans - they are part of the disease process.

Triptans can cause circulatory problems (they are potent vasoconstrictors) - and with basilar migraine, could be fatal.  They are not risk free, but for many patients, the risk is low and they and their doctors may make an informed decision that the relief is worth the risk.

As an episodic, I don't take triptans. Tried it once, felt quite bad.  But my decision not to take triptans is not a mandate to others not to take them.

Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by LeLimey on Jul 27th, 2005, 3:32pm
Hello Galaxy, I see you have posted this on both this board and the clustee specific board. May I respectfully ask if you have clusters and if so what you use instead of triptans?
You seem to have a great down on them but I would like to point out they have stopped many many people here from ending it all. Sometimes the only choice we have is the lesser of two evils and since for many clusterheads extreme exercise is a trigger I don't think the sporting angle will bother many!
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by gMike on Jul 27th, 2005, 3:40pm
Something tells me the 'miracle' cure will be forthcoming shortly.  No doubt, only available from a single source, represented by the kind gentleman that made us aware of the dangers of Triptans........
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by LeLimey on Jul 27th, 2005, 3:50pm
Oh Mike you've spoilt all the fun.. I bet you were the brat at kids parties who always told how the magician did each trick weren't you?!  [smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by burnt-toast on Jul 27th, 2005, 4:29pm
Unfortuanately the majority of meds. we take can kill us.  Even more unfortunate is the fact that there are few options.  So its pick yer' poison at the CH club.

Tom  
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by floridian on Jul 27th, 2005, 4:42pm

on 07/27/05 at 15:40:19, gMike wrote:
Something tells me the 'miracle' cure will be forthcoming shortly.  No doubt, only available from a single source, represented by the kind gentleman that made us aware of the dangers of Triptans........

Aaawww! I bit my tongue and didn't say it.
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Sandy_C on Jul 27th, 2005, 4:59pm

on 07/27/05 at 15:40:19, gMike wrote:
Something tells me the 'miracle' cure will be forthcoming shortly.  No doubt, only available from a single source, represented by the kind gentleman that made us aware of the dangers of Triptans........




I am sitting here waiting with baited breath for our cure!
;;D
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Kiwiinoz58 on Jul 27th, 2005, 5:53pm
;;D Waiting, waiting, waiting !

Jacqs
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by vig on Jul 27th, 2005, 6:03pm
Maybe it's Ali again?
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Lizzie2 on Jul 27th, 2005, 9:58pm

on 07/27/05 at 18:03:41, vig wrote:
Maybe it's Ali again?



Yeah...Solarboy and then Galaxy?

That'd be my guess......
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Jasmyn on Jul 28th, 2005, 1:35am
May I reply that we will all die someday and some of us die everyday and I prefer to die my way! [smiley=headbanger.gif] [smiley=me&mb.gif] [smiley=smokin.gif]
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Sandy_C on Jul 28th, 2005, 4:13pm

on 07/27/05 at 21:58:28, Lizzie2 wrote:
Yeah...Solarboy and then Galaxy?

That'd be my guess......


Ok, I got a really good impression of who/what Ali was from the other board.  From this post, can I assume that Ali has aliases???  Whatever, will somebody please PM me when Ali, Solarboy, or Galaxy visit us again.  I wanna watch the fireworks!


[smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by brewcrew on Jul 28th, 2005, 9:15pm
And I could step off a curb and be instantaneously killed by a bus. But if I lived in fear of being killed by a bus, I'd never go out of the house.

Life itself is a risk. Something I'm not too sure you understand.
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by jcmquix on Jul 30th, 2005, 4:59pm
What happened to the Magic Cure.... ????

This guy must have forgot his password...

[smiley=ohjez.gif]

Oh well.. Back to the TREX and the O2

[smiley=smokin.gif]
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by pubgirl on Jul 31st, 2005, 3:55am
The old Babelfish was having a bit of an off day when he posted that too ;;D
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Topical on Jul 31st, 2005, 6:39am
Given the choice of someone possibly commtting suicide or taking Triptans, it's obvious the reward outweighs any risk.

Why do doctors always turn to Imitrex first and not O2? Why is it far harder for people to get scripts for Oxygen?

I have read stories of people being given Imitrex scripts or samples but when they ask for an O2 script the response is to go to the ER and try it there first or "let's try this first".

Does anyone know the answer? I've asked the question before and will probably raise it again hoping someone knows the answer. I've asked my neuro and just gotten a shrug of the shoulders.
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by pubgirl on Jul 31st, 2005, 6:43am
topical

Don't know the situation there but here the Imigran/trex is licensed as a treatment and the 02 not. We await avidly the results of the formal trials running here to support the historical use of 02 with clinical data so it too is licensed.

Doctors here just don't understand o2 therapy, where, since they do understand what triptans do and have data to back it up, so they play safe

Wendy
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Topical on Jul 31st, 2005, 7:06am
Gotcha Pubgirl,

I have heard that from someone in the UK too and pointed them to a page in Wales.
http://www.attract.wales.nhs.uk/question_answers.cfm?question_id=910

It's owned by the Welsh National Public Health Service. According to it's "about" page it is supposed to be used as a place where doctors can keep up to date on the latest research.

I also point people to this which is dated 2/05:
http://www.aafp.org/afp/20050215/717.html
It's the "treatment of choice" according to the American Academy of Family Physicians article with a 56 percent success rate with no side effects.

What rights do we have as patients to choose our plan of treatment? Is it all up to the doctor and if we don't like it then find another one?

I hate to think doctors are not staying up to date or using resources made available to them. Maybe the treatment plan they go by is the Physician's Desk Reference book, (I have no idea what it says in there about CH. Anyone have a copy by chance?)
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Ueli on Jul 31st, 2005, 12:25pm

on 07/31/05 at 07:06:26, Topical wrote:
I hate to think doctors are not staying up to date

Isn't that a bit euphemistic? After all, Horton described the use of oxygen for CH back in 1942. (For those with no calculator at hand, that was 63 (sixty-three) years ago!)

Ueli                 [smiley=smokin.gif]
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Jul 31st, 2005, 1:20pm
Does anyone know the numbers of migrainers/clusterheads that have killed themselves?  
I would be willing to bet a shot of makers mark that more sufferers have taken their own life than have been killed by a triptan drug.

Good call on the new relief that is only available from one source.  How much longer do you think we are gonna have to wait?
BMonee
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by jcmquix on Jul 31st, 2005, 10:12pm

on 07/31/05 at 13:20:15, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
Good call on the new relief that is only available from one source.  How much longer do you think we are gonna have to wait?
BMonee


I quit holding my breath 2 days ago....  [smiley=smokin.gif]

He must be trying to get a Patent on the Magic Potion..
Probally wants us all to sign a confidentialy agreement..  [smiley=deal2.gif]

[smiley=oops.gif] [smiley=ohjez.gif]
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by don on Aug 1st, 2005, 12:16am

Quote:
Does anyone know the numbers of migrainers/clusterheads that have killed themselves?  


I dont know of a single documented case of a CH er taking his/her life solely due to CH.
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by dirky on Aug 1st, 2005, 7:36am
Topical,
Just a word about one of the links you posted,


http://www.attract.wales.nhs.uk/question_answers.cfm?question_id=910

They are refering to hyperbaric O2, i.e O2 therapy while under pressure in a divers "decopresion chamber".

I only post to suggest caution regarding any hyperbaric studies. The people who run these operations are interested in comercialisation of hyperbaric O2, as decompression chambers are immenesly valuable to divers, expensive to run, but poorly funded. So there is the same old "pressure" for it to be a found to be an effective treatment for all sorts of things. This way, the chambers can be funded as a treatment centre, and will be available for reckless/unlucky divers with decompresion sickness.


This does not take anything away from the study itself, but does point toward an agenda of "selling" the hyperbaric part of the treatment.
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Topical on Aug 1st, 2005, 8:07am
Ueli - You're making me go back to my conspiracy theory involving drug companies.  :(

dirky- Read paragraphs 2 and 5. These appear to be inhalation studies only.

Gallagher RM et al. Analgesic use in cluster headache. Headache. 1996; 36(2): 105-7.

Fogan L. Treatment of cluster headaches. A double-blind comparison of oxygen v air inhalation. Archives of Neurology. 1985; 42(4): 362-3.

I am impressed by Hyperbaric treatments but more study is needed. I posted on Hyperbarbic treatment a little bit ago, please have a look:
http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=meds;action=display;num=1120639147
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by BobG on Aug 1st, 2005, 10:31am

on 07/31/05 at 07:06:26, Topical wrote:
Maybe the treatment plan they go by is the Physician's Desk Reference book, (I have no idea what it says in there about CH. Anyone have a copy by chance?)

I don't know what is in the most up-to-date issue but I can say the Reference book from about 1992-93 had only a small paragragh or two. I had gone, like most everybody here, to the dentist, the ear-nose-throat doc and eye doc trying to find a cause for the pain. After zero results with the specialists my regular doctor handed me his Desk Reference and said "See if you can find what you have and let me know."  
I found the the old sterotype of women don't get clusters, square jaw, pockmarked skin, smoke to much, yada, yada, yada. I finally had a name. Didn't do me much good though. There was no mention of treatment and it said the pain would go away when I reached my 40's. Yeah, right. I was already in my 40's and it was getting worse.
Maybe today's issue of the Doc's Desk Reference is more up-to-date.
But, I doubt it.
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Charlie on Aug 1st, 2005, 2:03pm

Quote:
I dont know of a single documented case of a CH er taking his/her life solely due to CH.


Since 1969, I've never read of it either.

Charlie
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by thomas on Aug 1st, 2005, 3:08pm

on 07/27/05 at 14:36:21, galaxy1 wrote:
Triptans drugs can kill

Why yes indeed they can.  But then again, so can I.  Pick your poison, bub.  Interesting point, eh?
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by thomas on Aug 1st, 2005, 3:10pm

on 08/01/05 at 14:03:50, Charlie wrote:
Since 1969, I've never read of it either.

Charlie

Couple of years ago, there was a girl that came here and said that her cousin, or brother, could have even been her dad took his own life due to CH, she wished he would have found us before that.  
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Leggs on Aug 1st, 2005, 6:38pm
So did we chase galaxy away?  Nothing like starting a hot topic, and not being able to handle the heat.... :P
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by vig on Aug 1st, 2005, 8:22pm
He's like a bad penny... he'll be back...

(every couple of months with a new schtick...)
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Donna_D. on Aug 1st, 2005, 11:21pm

on 08/01/05 at 20:22:17, vig wrote:
He's like a bad penny... he'll be back...

(every couple of months with a new schtick...)



And every time he shows up with his schtick....

....I will be here with MY stick.


DD
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Topical on Aug 2nd, 2005, 4:50am
I think it's fair to say.CH accompinied by depression and isolation will raise the risk for suicide.

Going onto google there is a thread about this:
http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=chspecific;action=print;num=1104654080

Versilleus related a story of one CH'er he knew who jumped. He also stated, "The Clusterbusters surveys show that 64.15% have contemplated suicide.
8.8% have actually attempted it."

From what I have read those who can not find a way to control CH are most likely to choose suicide.
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by ozzy on Aug 2nd, 2005, 8:04am
Actually my Neuro had a CH patient commit suicide. And to me that is bigger than anecdotal.


I also remember last year someone posted a story about a doctor at a hospital that had his best friend (?) commit suicide from Clusters....ring a bell? It' gotta be in the archives somewhere...


Ozzy
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by giffy76 on Aug 2nd, 2005, 8:34am
Lets say suicide is caused by depression. What caused the depression? In my case depression is caused by ch, when in cycle I don't want to associate with anyone, I don't go out, I have to force myself to spend time with the family or go to work. All I want to do is lay in a cold room and be left alone. I'm episodic and I can't even begin to understand how you chronics deal with it year round.
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by jcmquix on Aug 2nd, 2005, 8:44am

on 08/02/05 at 08:34:10, giffy76 wrote:
Lets say suicide is caused by depression. What caused the depression? In my case depression is caused by ch, when in cycle I don't want to associate with anyone, I don't go out, I have to force myself to spend time with the family or go to work. All I want to do is lay in a cold room and be left alone. I'm episodic and I can't even begin to understand how you chronics deal with it year round.


Thats exactly what I posted in another thread, I hope that this cycle will end for me at the end of this month, it usually will not return until December (Hopefully Never)... I really do feel for all that have this year round...

I know what I go through about 5 or 6 months of the year, I understand why people here are so quick to pull out the pokin STICKS, I have had enough in just a few months myself.. EX: Ali, Galaxy, Hidido, etc...

PFDAN's to ALL !!!
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Leggs on Aug 2nd, 2005, 3:37pm

on 08/01/05 at 23:21:05, Donna_D. wrote:
And every time he shows up with his schtick....

....I will be here with MY stick.


DD


Gonna put some good ole fashioned Texas-style woop-a$$ on him?  I will join you.  

It just really irks me when someone blows in to town with the latest "don't use this method/MUST try this" B.S. , making an erroneous assumption that everyone here knows squat about the condition.    

Since I am just episodic, I try to have more of an "I am not worthy" attitude around the chronics.  I have never had triptans, but Re: the suicide for me, I have THOUGHT, on the way to the emergency room, "If I just run into the bridge, I will get knocked out and my head won't hurt anymore," and wanted to die rather than endure the pain.  The last time I had one of only about 5 kip 10's I really thought of blowing my head off, it was just a fantasy of seeing a way to end the pain.  I really am able to say to myself, that is the clusters talking, just like it's the beast, seperate from me, and I know it will end.  I too, have the greatest sympathy for the chronics...whenever I wake up pain free, I pray for them.

One thing I know about clusters, and it's even apparent from the surveys, nothing works for everyone. Further, with meds in general, nothing works for everyone.  We all have a unique chemistry, personal circumstances and tolerance level for things.  THAT is what makes someone knowledgeable, and an authority on something in my book---KNOWING YOURSELF through experience, and and trial and error, what triggered it, how did it differ from last time, what time of day was it, was it after a drink, etc.  

Even when I have a problem, ie: some issues with kudzu, it's MY problem, and I try to express it as a heads-up for others considering it, not me being their Mother, or me acting like the God/Goddess of Know it All.

What's the pay off for Galaxy anyway?  If this is a return engagement, isn't it apparent Clusterheads aren't dumba$$es?   Not to mention to fact that the post is incoherent, like we are going to trust a blubbering illiterate as an authority. Go stick your head down a garbage disposal for a cluster-like experience, and take your "Miracle cure of the day" elsewhere.  
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Kiwiinoz58 on Aug 2nd, 2005, 6:23pm
In my case I was already being treated for depression over a period of 8 years, when the CH's started. The tablets had been working quite well but the headaches have aggrivated the situation immensley. As I'm chronic and get only very short PF periods I often feel I'd rather be dead than feel like this the rest of my life. The worst feeling is guilt over how it affects my partner and our life together.
Now I'm not sure whether I should ask for stronger anti depressants or what.
Bloody CH's cause a lot more problems than just the head pain.
Cheers all,
Jacqs
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Leggs on Aug 2nd, 2005, 9:54pm
Geeze Jacqs, no emoticon for pained look of empathy.  I really feel for you being chronic.  

I can't say "I understand", but I can relate to your comment about how it affects those around you.  The most recent  "wishing I were dead episode" when I went cold turkey off of everything to try kudzu, I recall thinking the thing that talks me back to reality, the thing that let's me know it's the clusters talking is my kids and husband, and then I too feel very selfish, that I would leave them to escape.

Since I had a car wreck last year, I have had this horrific face pain and neck pain, on TOP of the CH lurking out of its cave lately at times other than my normal episode months.  

At least I don't have Chronic CH, but I am constantly in pain. But it's not the CH wish-I-were-dead-rather-than-this-pain that I just get sporadically.  Like I said, even with my neck and face pain, I STILL thank GOD I am not chronic CH, and pray for anyone who is when I get a good night's sleep.    

I really wanted to tell my doctor how this is making me feel depressed, but I don't want to throw any MORE issues into the mix before I get ONE under control.  I haven't worked since last February, I sometimes can't even think of words for things, and I am supposed to be taking some tests to get certified to teach. Hell, I couldn't even think of what a microscope was called the other night.   At least diagnostics show my brain is not blowing up, it just feels like it some days.  

Has your doc every considered self hypnosis/relaxation tapes?  I have very mild depression, where the side effects are not worth the treatment.  When I get thinking of depression, and if something could trigger it, or contribute to it, CH and chronic on top of it would certainly have a reasonable connection.  I use my self hypnosis tapes to destress at the end of the day.

Another thing, you may need  a stronger anti depressant, but what about just a different one.  It IS crazy when you are trying to deal with more than one thing at a time, since you can't just focus on the ONE thing, the CH or the depression, you have to worry about interactions with treatments on top of it.

I know this website does a world of good for me---it's like therapy, to let you know you are not alone, offer alternatives and advice, and plenty of Mama and Papa bears out there to beat off the boobs who want to sell you on some miracle cure.  

Wishing you the best, and more pain free days to come.  I am sure your partner would not think the world was better without you, and hope the effects of CH can diminish over time, where you just have you lives together, instead of your lives with CH.  

PFdays. T.Ann
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by galaxy1 on Aug 9th, 2005, 5:36am
;)
All triptans patients must do a electrocardiograma to be sure that heart didnt have any sick midifications,,,you will see that majority of triptans patients have a sick electrocardiograma,,,,,
Do it and wrote the results here, Exept drugs agents who dont care about any side effects of triptans,,,
www.migrainesurgery.8m.net
Let real patients show you the real results,,,then let Terri talk,,,,
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by LeLimey on Aug 9th, 2005, 5:43am

Quote:
For the attention of anyone new reading this.
Galaxy1 is a troll.
He has registered on this site under many names and deleted all of them after being run off for dangerous, ridiculous and worthless views.
He is not a doctor.
He has no medical training and his so called medical certification comes from scools with no medical education programmes.
Do not be decieved.
His opinion and views are worth their weight in manure so unless you have roses read no further!
Oh and he does not have cluster headaches so if you are looking for help his views are of no value to you.
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by jcmquix on Aug 9th, 2005, 5:46am

on 08/09/05 at 05:36:27, galaxy1 wrote:
;)
All triptans patients must do a electrocardiograma to be sure that heart didnt have any sick midifications,,,you will see that majority of triptans patients have a sick electrocardiograma,,,,,
Do it and wrote the results here, Exept drugs agents who dont care about any side effects of triptans,,,
www.migrainesurgery.8m.net
Let real patients show you the real results,,,then let Terri talk,,,,

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/197940/2/Troll_of_the_Week.jpg
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Leggs on Aug 9th, 2005, 6:09am
Ah man, I thought this guy crawled back under the bridge...Donna, get your stick out!
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by galaxy1 on Aug 9th, 2005, 6:14am
Its easy to be a liar,,,,
Ph.D in neurosurgery from 3 department of (Bordenko Insititute of neurosurgery in Moscow,,,Directors is Proffesor KANOVALOF first in the world in surgery of third ventricole) in 1995  and Im not a Doctor,,,,,
Try to find another lie,,,,,

How much siucide patients you need to stop your idiots drugs.
My new treatment is (How to WOW),,,
And your triptans drugs is (FROM HERO to zero).
Hey migraine, cluster patients take care how much triptans agents wants you to stay away from the truth..

 [smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by jcmquix on Aug 9th, 2005, 6:18am

on 08/09/05 at 06:14:59, galaxy1 wrote:
Its easy to be a liar,,,,
Ph.D in neurosurgery from 3 department of (Bordenko Insititute of neurosurgery in Moscow,,,Directors is Proffesor KANOVALOF first in the world in surgery of third ventricole) in 1995  and Im not a Doctor,,,,,
Try to find another lie,,,,,

How much siucide patients you need to stop your idiots drugs.
My new treatment is (How to WOW),,,
And your triptans drugs is (FROM HERO to zero).
Hey migraine, cluster patients take care how much triptans agents wants you to stay away from the truth..

 [smiley=laugh.gif]


http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/197940/2/Troll_of_the_Week.jpg
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by maffumatt on Aug 9th, 2005, 6:34am

on 08/09/05 at 06:14:59, galaxy1 wrote:
Its easy to be a liar,,,,

 [smiley=laugh.gif]

As you know all to well....................
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by sassy_lady on Aug 9th, 2005, 6:45am
NO LAB RATS HERE!!
GO AWAY!!
BE GONE!!  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Leggs on Aug 9th, 2005, 7:08am
By the way, maybe we would be more inclined to believe you if you spoke coherently in our native language.  

Naw, the stench of bull$hit penetrates any language barrier.
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Frank_W on Aug 9th, 2005, 8:27am

on 08/09/05 at 06:14:59, galaxy1 wrote:
Its easy to be a liar,,,,


Yeah, but it takes special effort and talent to be a giant talking sphincter such as yourself, right?

Mouth-breathing fucktard!  >:(


Aren't you going to take anymore home movies of your mother blowing goats? The first videos were pretty hot. I saw that they had been uploaded to KaZaa and LimeWire.


TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL!
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by seasonalboomer on Aug 9th, 2005, 8:42am

on 08/09/05 at 05:43:21, LeLimey wrote:
For the attention of anyone new reading this.  
Galaxy1 is a troll.  
He has registered on this site under many names and deleted all of them after being run off for dangerous, ridiculous and worthless views.  
He is not a doctor.  
He has no medical training and his so called medical certification comes from scools with no medical education programmes.
Do not be decieved.  
His opinion and views are worth their weight in manure so unless you have roses read no further!  
Oh and he does not have cluster headaches so if you are looking for help his views are of no value to you.


How can we make an emoticon out of this?
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by jcmquix on Aug 9th, 2005, 8:56am

on 08/09/05 at 08:42:27, seasonalboomer wrote:
How can we make an emoticon out of this?


Amen to that....  [smiley=thumb.gif]
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Frank_W on Aug 9th, 2005, 9:07am
Hey, Ali: Do you have any naked pictures of your mom?



No?




Want some?
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by unsolved1 on Aug 9th, 2005, 9:11am
LOL Frank  [smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by galaxy1 on Aug 9th, 2005, 2:25pm
Redd715 wrote;
We are not Human beings on a spiritual journey...we are spiritual beings on a Human journey.
No, the truth for Frank_W is he has un animal sol in human beings, because of that we cant talk each others ,,,
Did you see a Human beings talk to un animal,,,,,
Take care I wrote animal sol not spirit,,,,,
Kinds of animals like Frank_W is majority in this earth here and where you live,,,,,

Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by LeLimey on Aug 9th, 2005, 2:40pm

Quote:
For the attention of anyone new reading this.  
Galaxy1 is a troll.  
He has registered on this site under many names and deleted all of them after being run off for dangerous, ridiculous and worthless views.  
He is not a doctor.  
He has no medical training and his so called medical certification comes from scools with no medical education programmes.
Do not be decieved.  
His opinion and views are worth their weight in manure so unless you have roses read no further!  
Oh and he does not have cluster headaches so if you are looking for help his views are of no value to you.
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by LeLimey on Aug 9th, 2005, 2:42pm

on 08/09/05 at 14:25:09, galaxy1 wrote:
Redd715 wrote;
We are not Human beings on a spiritual journey...we are spiritual beings on a Human journey.
No, the truth for Frank_W is he has un animal sol in human beings, because of that we cant talk each others ,,,
Did you see a Human beings talk to un animal,,,,,
Take care I wrote animal sol not spirit,,,,,
Kinds of animals like Frank_W is majority in this earth here and where you live,,,,,


Learn to talk eeeengleesh before you try and insult people dicksplat.
Now you just look REALLY silly and trust me. With the arse you've made of yourself here that REALLY took some doing! [smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by seasonalboomer on Aug 9th, 2005, 3:04pm

on 08/09/05 at 14:42:44, LeLimey wrote:
Learn to talk eeeengleesh before you try and insult people dicksplat.
Now you just look REALLY silly and trust me. With the arse you've made of yourself here that REALLY took some doing! [smiley=laugh.gif]


now Helen, if you're going to implore people to utilize English, then I think you might come up with better than "dicksplat".


;;D
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by LeLimey on Aug 9th, 2005, 3:07pm
Sorry Scott, I 'umbly apologise!
I wanted to make sure he understood though ;;D
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by jcmquix on Aug 9th, 2005, 3:07pm

on 08/09/05 at 14:25:09, galaxy1 wrote:
Redd715 wrote;
We are not Human beings on a spiritual journey...we are spiritual beings on a Human journey.
No, the truth for Frank_W is he has un animal sol in human beings, because of that we cant talk each others ,,,
Did you see a Human beings talk to un animal,,,,,
Take care I wrote animal sol not spirit,,,,,
Kinds of animals like Frank_W is majority in this earth here and where you live,,,,,

I'm a homeless Troll looking to people to cut up,,,,


http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/197940/2/Troll_of_the_Week.jpg
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by jcmquix on Aug 9th, 2005, 3:09pm

on 08/09/05 at 14:25:09, galaxy1 wrote:
It Sucks to be a Troll like me

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/197940/2/Troll_of_the_Week.jpg


This guy Galaxy1 is a JOKE !!!!
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Svenn on Aug 9th, 2005, 3:12pm
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/197940/2/Troll_of_the_Week.jpg



What an idiot.


Svenn
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by seasonalboomer on Aug 9th, 2005, 3:18pm
I feel stupider than you can imagine. All this time I thought he was talking about imitrex when he was really posting about skin cancer:

Trip Tans Can Kill You

You know, for us in the northern hemisphere, when we go to southern climes too often, we're more likely to develop skin cancer from too many Trip Tans.

Everyone should apologize to galaxy, world reknowned skin cancer specialist....


;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by rextangle on Aug 9th, 2005, 3:57pm
Come on guys... don't scare all the trolls away, I'll have nothing left to wipe with... TP has become so expensive! :(
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Charlie on Aug 9th, 2005, 10:33pm
http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/DUMBTH.png

What a waste of carbon.

Charlie
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Frank_W on Aug 10th, 2005, 7:16am

on 08/09/05 at 15:18:08, seasonalboomer wrote:
Everyone should apologize to galaxy, world reknowned cancer and a boil on the ass of mankind.


I heartily concur. Galaxy-sized tumor, please forgive me. Hopefully, that 5 lb. boil on top of your shoulders will someday be popped.
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Soror on Aug 11th, 2005, 4:16pm
Realizing that this is disturbingly on-topic for this thread...I still have to say, I don't know what I would do without my Maxalt as an abortive.  I may not use it often, but I have the blister packs wherever I go, since it's the only thing that ever seems to work.

So as far as Triptans, here is yet another chronic Clusterhead (although new to the board) that would far prefer the risk of lesions or damage than not having relief.  My doctor told me the risks and I understood them, so it is not as if I was unaware.

Far better to know the risks than take the advice of some insane quack spamming the boards and wanting to do strange, molestation-like things to my cranium.

Soror
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by LeLimey on Aug 11th, 2005, 4:26pm
Welcome Soror,
You're amongst friends here!
This as you've realised is a highly emotive thread. One thing we do not take kindly too here is quacks and trolls. People come here initially looking for answers, often in pain and desperation, often with no meds and no answers.
I for one won't let scum like that prey on any clusterhead while I can prevent it!
We aren't against "alternative" treatments by any means.. we just don't subscribe to outright quackery and we don't like it when someone comes along and with their first (and usually only) post tries to sell something.
Stick around, read up and I'm sure you wll learn stuff thats of benefit to you.
Are you episodic or Chronic? Do you use and preventatives or just the maxalt? Ever tried Oxygen?
Realised how nosey we all are yet?! ;)
Pull up a pew and tell us a bit more about yourself!
Take care
Helen
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Sandy_C on Aug 11th, 2005, 4:44pm
Hey Soror!  Welcome to our crazy clusterhead family!  Sorry you have to be here, but you've come to the right place.  Please trust us that there are trolls lurking on these boards, and before you ever rely on anything anyone spouts as a "cure" for this hell we are living in, check it out with your doctor, or even us?  We're not doctors, but we do have combined a century of experience with The Beast.

Tell us a little bit more about yourself, how long have you had CH, read, read, read every board on this website.  Check in to the spaces on the left for tips on oxygen, imitrex, etc.  But above all, hang in there.  If you thought you were alone, you aren't anymore.

Hugs   [smiley=hug.gif]

Sandy
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by rextangle on Aug 11th, 2005, 5:02pm
Welcome Soror,

Please step under the troll detector... Just kidding!;)

Sorry that you have to be here, but you're in good hands.

Maxalt used to work wonders for me, until I over did it and if I took one now to abort an attack, it would double the pain within seconds.... So, I'm glad to hear that you're going easy on it.

Ask questions, we're here to help.

Cheers,
Rex
Title: Re: Triptans can kill you
Post by Frank_W on Aug 12th, 2005, 7:45am
Welcome, Soror. Sorry that you have reason to be here, but you're in the right place. Stick around... We don't bite too terribly hard, unless we're sinking our teeth into the leg of a troll.  ;;D


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