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(Message started by: Melissa on Jul 18^th, 2005, 9:11am)

Title: Anyone use the NSI Kudzu w/1200mg of 'zu extract?
Post by Melissa on Jul 18^th, 2005, 9:11am

I have been having very light shadows, last time I was in cycle was 2 1/2 weeks after Eli was born....2 years ago. I'm afraid my cycle might be back early, as I used to get it every other year in Sept., but because of having a baby, it probably threw the predictability out of whack.

Anyway, is anyone taking the NSI Kudzu with 1200mg of kudzu extract? I am at the Vitacost website right now filling up my shopping cart. I AM putting 2 bottles of the Natures Way in there too, but am curious about the NSI.

If you have experience with it, please let me know.

Thanks!
mel

Title: Re: Anyone use the NSI Kudzu w/1500mg of 'zu extra
Post by ozzy on Jul 18^th, 2005, 9:51am

Mel,

No idea about NSI, and as with any supplement, quality varies. I've found that Nature's Way works so I'm sticking to it.

How about you try it and let us know....

Ozzy

Title: Re: Anyone use the NSI Kudzu w/1500mg of 'zu extra
Post by Melissa on Jul 18^th, 2005, 11:12am

Thanks for the reply Oz. The NSI Kudzu was $14.99 for 180 capsules. Right now, I am unsure what to do. Do I wait for my cycle to start, or do I begin taking the stuff, as soon as I receive the bottle, until after Sept. has come and gone? Luckily, I am sensitive to any meds, vitamins or herbs, so the minimum dosage is all I need for it to be effective. What would you do? Or anyone else do?

Title: Re: Anyone use the NSI Kudzu w/1500mg of 'zu extra
Post by ozzy on Jul 18^th, 2005, 11:20am

Well Mel, do the math, 2 bottles should very well last you until September, so for $30 you'd be set.

You know *your* warning signs better than anyone. I'm not sure in the case of episodics when do you taper off, but I know some have reported great success at going through the whole cycle withou much to report as far as pain.

I'd say is is a cheap enough experiment and the earlier the better..

Good luck

Ozzy

Title: Re: Anyone use the NSI Kudzu w/1500mg of 'zu extra
Post by nani on Jul 21^st, 2005, 11:11am

on 07/18/05 at 11:20:28, ozzy wrote:

I'd say is is a cheap enough experiment and the earlier the better..

Me, too. Wow, I completely missed this thread until now. [smiley=huh.gif] You know your head best, mel, so if you think it's going to start....go for it. {INSERT ALL REQUIRED DUSCLAIMERS HERE}
Keep us posted, OK? hugs and pf wishes, nani

Title: Re: Anyone use the NSI Kudzu w/1500mg of 'zu extra
Post by Melissa on Jul 21^st, 2005, 3:17pm

Hey there Nani, thanks. You too Oz. :)

Well, I received my 'zu about 15 minutes ago and will begin my regimen tomorrow morning. I have decided, since I'm not in cycle, to take 1 pill at 9am and one at 9pm every day. That way, if my cycle does break through, I can up the dosage if need be. BTW, NSI means "Nutraceutical Science Institute". Reminds me of Tom Cruise for some weird reason. ::)

Anyhow, my bottle of 180 capsules has 1.2g (1200mg) of Kudzu Extract (concentrated 5:1), with other ingredients of Kosher gelatin, rice flour and magnesium stearate.

It's weird, but even though I'm not in cycle...yet...I feel like this huge sense of heavy dread and burden have been lifted from my shoulders. I will keep everyone up to date on my progress to see if I can entirely skip the pain of this years cycle.

:)mel

Title: Re: Anyone use the NSI Kudzu w/1500mg of 'zu extra
Post by seasonalboomer on Jul 21^st, 2005, 3:25pm

on 07/21/05 at 15:17:00, Melissa wrote:

"Nutraceutical Science Institute"

Sounds like something in Willy Wonka.

The nutradoodical fantastanoodical science institutal
Or the nuestramoonical scienamoodical indudapoodical

modified to say:

and if anyone is asking for any of what I'm on, it's just love baby!

Title: Re: Anyone use the NSI Kudzu w/1200mg of 'zu extra
Post by nani on Jul 21^st, 2005, 3:35pm

Jeez, Scott....you're killin' me today. [smiley=laugh.gif]
...please send me some of what you're on.

Title: Re: Anyone use the NSI Kudzu w/1200mg of 'zu extra
Post by Melissa on Jul 21^st, 2005, 4:20pm

Ok, I'm a dork.

A serving size is 2 capsules (600mg 'zu PER CAPSULE [smiley=ohjez.gif]) 3x a day, but I'm going with 1 capsule 2x a day for right now. Can I confusicate anything else today??? sheesh

:-/

Title: Re: Anyone use the NSI Kudzu w/1200mg of 'zu extra
Post by nani on Jul 21^st, 2005, 7:04pm

That should be enough to start, mel. I noticed a difference with a similar dosage. I did have to add more, eventually. Keep us posted, OK? hugs, nani

Title: Re: Anyone use the NSI Kudzu w/1200mg of 'zu extra
Post by Melissa on Jul 31^st, 2005, 8:50pm

Ok, I think I may be going into cycle. :-/ For the past 4 or 5 nights at around 8pm I have been getting very heated up to the point my body gets clammy and I feel like my head is gonna detach from my body. I start to flip out, thinking that I'm going nuts. Now along with it is this strange feeling in my head, like I'm going to pass out or something, but HOLY CRAP, I just remembered... A side effect of the 'zu is dizzyness....OMFG, LMFAO!! [smiley=laugh.gif] Here I've been taking this stuff (only 2 pills a day mind you!) and feeling like I'm going OUT of my mind, and stoooopid me forgot about the side effects. [smiley=ohjez.gif]

BTW, are hot flashes also a side effect?? I still think I might be going into cycle, but have no clue other than the fact I've been getting the telltale "squinty" eye, where I can feel something about to hit me along with my nasal passage becoming stuffy. :-/

Well fudge. If I am only taking 2 pills a day, and I cut down to one... do you think it would still be effective?

This sux. >:(

Title: Re: Anyone use the NSI Kudzu w/1200mg of 'zu extra
Post by nani on Jul 31^st, 2005, 8:57pm

I don't know about hot flash side effects, since I have them all the time anyway. :-/
Do you get hot and sweaty when you get hit? I found I had a lot of "phantom" hits, with most of the symptoms and none of the pain.
You could try just one a day. Time it to coincide with your biggest activity. If they're tablets, you could even cut one in half.
It's really an individual process to find out the "perfect" dose and timing.
Keep up the good work, mel... hugs and pf wishes, nani

Title: Re: Anyone use the NSI Kudzu w/1200mg of 'zu extra
Post by Melissa on Jul 31^st, 2005, 9:06pm

Hey Nani, thanks for the hugs & wishes. Yes, I get very heated up when I am getting hit, only I feel clammy on the outside and not hot at all (according to hubby). I have the capsules, so I cannot split one in half, so I suppose since I am good in the mornings and during the day, I could start taking just one a day at around 6 or 7pm. Thank you for the suggestion! I will keep this thread updated as things do, or do not, progress.

Title: Re: Anyone use the NSI Kudzu w/1200mg of 'zu extra
Post by Melissa on Aug 6^th, 2005, 8:51pm

Well, thought I'd update this thread. I've been taking the 1 pill a day now at approx. 7pm every night. If I am late taking it, then my head really lets me know by giving me little ch "percursers". Hard to explain, but it's sort of like, "If you don't take your pill, I'm going to come and get you." :-/ I have NO CLUE if I'm in cycle right now, and frankly, I don't care to find out!

I'll update again in a couple weeks.

Title: Re: Anyone use the NSI Kudzu w/1200mg of 'zu extra
Post by nani on Aug 6^th, 2005, 9:37pm

on 08/06/05 at 20:51:17, Melissa wrote:

I have NO CLUE if I'm in cycle right now, and frankly, I don't care to find out!

I think that sounds like good news! :D
Wishing you continued doubts. :-*
hugs, nani

Title: Re: Anyone use the NSI Kudzu w/1200mg of 'zu extra
Post by Melissa on Aug 26^th, 2005, 6:09pm

Ok, update time. I have been taking the 1 pill a day at approx. 7pm, faithfully. I've not noticed anything peculiar, until last night. I had 2 wine coolers, and then got slammed with very hard shadows that stayed with me for about 15 min, twice. Not only that, I have come to find out, that I have to give up drinking all together, but that's a different topic. ;)

Anyway, I'll see how things go tonight whether or not I get hard shadows again between 8 & 10pm. If I do, then I have a feeling my cycle is beginning, or has begun. It would be AWESOME if my just taking 1 pill a day prevents them from going full blown, but I'm not going to get my hopes up just yet.

Anyhoo, just thought I'd update this thread. :-/

Title: Re: Anyone use the NSI Kudzu w/1200mg of 'zu extra
Post by floridian on Aug 26^th, 2005, 6:24pm

on 07/31/05 at 20:50:54, Melissa wrote:

BTW, are hot flashes also a side effect?? I still think I might be going into cycle, but have no clue other than the fact I've been getting the telltale "squinty" eye, where I can feel something about to hit me along with my nasal passage becoming stuffy. :-/

I have gotten hot flashes when in cycle - that is easy for a middle aged woman, but no small feat for a middle aged man. ;)

Title: Re: Anyone use the NSI Kudzu w/1200mg of 'zu extra
Post by floridian on Aug 26^th, 2005, 6:24pm

on 07/31/05 at 20:50:54, Melissa wrote:

I have gotten hot flashes when in cycle - that is easy for a middle aged woman, but no small feat for a middle aged man. ;)

Title: Re: Anyone use the NSI Kudzu w/1200mg of 'zu extra
Post by Melissa on Aug 26^th, 2005, 8:02pm

LOL Flo! Better document that feat! ;)

[smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Anyone use the NSI Kudzu w/1200mg of 'zu extra
Post by Melissa on Sep 8^th, 2005, 2:54pm

Update time.

I have been shadowing at least once a day for the past 2 weeks now. Normally I would be in cycle right now, so I don't know WHAT is goin on [smiley=huh.gif]. I'm thinking it could be one of three things:

1. I haven't had my cycle go full swing yet, so it may happen any day now.
2. The kudzu is keeping my cycle from evolving.
3. My cyclic pattern has gone from every other year, to once every 3 years.

You're guess is as good as mine. :-/

Oh, and there is NO WAY I'm going off the 'zu "just to find out". ;)

Title: Re: Anyone use the NSI Kudzu w/1200mg of 'zu extra
Post by Frank_W on Sep 8^th, 2005, 3:05pm

Mel, when I was on the kudzu, all of my hits and accompanying symptoms were muted. What probably would have been horrible hits, ended up being only bad enough to get me pacing. The only times I got hit during my cycle, is when I started fooling around with my dosages, timing, or experimented with tapering off of it to see if it worked similiarly to Prednisone. As long as I stayed on it, everything was fine. I got hit a total of eight times for the whole cycle, and the cycle only lasted half as long as cycles previous.

Glad to hear that it's working for you. Hang in there! PFDAN's!