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(Message started by: Magick on Nov 10^th, 2004, 6:33pm)

Title: Abortive medication methods. (O2&Imitrex)
Post by Magick on Nov 10^th, 2004, 6:33pm

Doing some reading on CH.com and was wondering about a few things.[b][/b]

Does anyone use the cold O2 method and does this work faster for you.

I an inline bubbler really needed for such short durations of o2 use?

On extending Imitrex: Can you do this while getting hit with a kip 8-10? It’s seems to me like even with assistance this would be far more difficult to administer this way under those conditions.

Also I would like to hear others breathing techniques for o2 and what else they try.

Title: Re: Abortive medication methods. (O2&Imitrex)
Post by Biker on Nov 10^th, 2004, 7:58pm

My welders oxygen tank has a tank pressure guage, and an outlet pressure guage. I have the outlet pressure in the neighborhood of 20-30 psi when I first begin to abort. I have a thumb activated valve that turns the O2 feed on and off. I breathe pure oxygen pretty fast at first. I can inflate my lungs in less than 1/2 second if I wish. I try and breathe slow and deep till I feel the headache begin to fade. After the CH receeds some, I reduce the outlet pressure to 3-5 pounds and breath slow, deep breaths.

Title: Re: Abortive medication methods. (O2&Imitrex)
Post by Mr. Happy on Nov 10^th, 2004, 9:12pm

on 11/10/04 at 18:33:44, Magick wrote:

I an inline bubbler really needed for such short durations of o2 use?

Probably not. I've been trying to get one loaded, but dang if the connections don't match up. A bubbler is nice, but if you don't have one, go for it anyway.

on 11/10/04 at 18:33:44, Magick wrote:

Also I would like to hear others breathing techniques for o2 and what else they try.

Not much in the way of technique. Make sure the mask fits Really Tight around the face. Spit on it to find leaks if need be. Got lazy the last go around, and wondered why the O2 wasn't working as well. It was because I was a lazy piece of white trash, not paying attention to the instructions.

CRAM the mask onto your face. HUFF the O2 into your lungs. When it's time to relax and breathe easy, you'll be the first to know.

Constant vigilance,
RJ

Title: Re: Abortive medication methods. (O2&Imitrex)
Post by Bob P on Nov 11^th, 2004, 9:08am

Kip uses the cold O2 method and swears by it. I think he uses a long O2 hose and coils it up in and ice chest full of ice & water. I read a research article a while back that looked at cold air and said it was more effective.

I didn't use a bubbler last cluster. After a few weeks of huffing dry O2 my throat and nose got very dried out and sore. Next time I'll use the bubbler.

A question for the bubbler users:
Does moisture condense on the inside of the non-rebreather bag? If so, wouldn't this be a breeding ground for bugs? Hate to get Legionaires Disease from my O2. Is this a problem, what do you do about it?

Title: Re: Abortive medication methods. (O2&Imitrex)
Post by alleyoop on Nov 11^th, 2004, 8:20pm

Bob,

I use a bubbler and have never had condensation form on the inside of my rebreather bag.

.................alley

Title: Re: Abortive medication methods. (O2&Imitrex)
Post by Not4Hire on Nov 12^th, 2004, 7:15am

Quote:

author=Bob P

A question for the bubbler users:
Does moisture condense on the inside of the non-rebreather bag? If so, wouldn't this be a breeding ground for bugs? Hate to get Legionaires Disease from my O2. Is this a problem, what do you do about it?

Yes it can.

Yes it would.

Spend the $3-4 to buy a new one.

Also look for moisture in the clear plastic tubing--also not a good thing.

Hope this helps......notfer

Title: Re: Abortive medication methods. (O2&Imitrex)
Post by jmorgan52 on Nov 16^th, 2004, 8:02am

on 11/10/04 at 18:33:44, Magick wrote:

On extending Imitrex: Can you do this while getting hit with a kip 8-10? It’s seems to me like even with assistance this would be far more difficult to administer this way under those conditions.

I have no problem using the imitrex tip no matter how hard I am being hit - I just force myself to be calm for the minute it takes. After the 1st time it is easier.

John

Title: Re: Abortive medication methods. (O2&Imitrex)
Post by marlin on Nov 16^th, 2004, 11:35am

This might sound nuts but I have been using a scuba regulator. Don't waste a single puff of O2. An E-Tank lasts me 3 weeks.

Early in the cycle the O2 knocks down the headaches quick and they rarely come back, even at night. After a week or so I have less luck. O2 may delay the onset or make the pain a little more manageable -- THAT'S WHEN I BREAKTHE IMITREX OUT!! 2 minutes and the headache's all but gone.

Title: Re: Abortive medication methods. (O2&Imitrex)
Post by Magick on Nov 17^th, 2004, 9:12pm

I like the idea of the scuba setup. Looking at
OXYGEN HACKER'S COMPANION
SCUBA REGULATOR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR
I thin the non-re-breather mask is a joke. You DO re-breath your own breath and it wastes lots of o2, and that’s money down the drain (or in the air)
O2 works very well for me but I always feel like I’m fighting the equipment somehow.
I think I'm going to hack something together. M class tank, cold o2 hack, bubbler and a SCUBA regulator. That if I can find a way to make it all work together and be safe AND effective.

Title: Re: Abortive medication methods. (O2&Imitrex)
Post by marlin on Nov 18^th, 2004, 11:33am

The problem with the scuba regulator is it doesn't line up or seal perfectly every time. You need to screw with the valve, turn it on and off, so the O2 doesn't leak when the tank's full.

Best to do this rigging before you get slammed...

Title: Re: Abortive medication methods. (O2&Imitrex)
Post by Redd715 on Nov 18^th, 2004, 5:51pm

I've been breaking the trex shots down and pre loading syringes that I can carry with me at all time. the little orange cap keeps them leak free, and as long as you keep them from the light they are just fine. that way it's just swab and poke and go....I can't get by with 2 mgs but 3 does the job jsut right.

Back to the salt mines.....catch ya all tonight.