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(Message started by: Flash on Jun 30^th, 2004, 5:03am)

Title: Philosophers Stone - the legal shroom
Post by Flash on Jun 30^th, 2004, 5:03am

I haven't tried this one myself yet, but I have a sensible friend that used it recreationally and his report was positive.

Psilocybe Tampanensis is a truffle, and is legal in most places. In addition to psilocybin and psilocin it contains numerous other lesser know psychoactive substances. The trip is reportedly smoother with less tendancy towards anxiety. It does however last about twice as long as a shroom trip.

A light dose is 5g fresh, so I'd recommend shooting for 2.5g fresh. The truffles are around 50% water and very easy to dry, so 1g of dried truffle would be another good place to start.

The truffles are legal in most places both fresh and dry.

I suggest that anyone consider this option do some more research before giving it a go.

I'll probably get hold of some myself.

Flash

Title: Re: Philosophers Stone - the legal shroom
Post by forgetfulnot on Jun 30^th, 2004, 10:22am

Flash, are these those things that cost $200.00 US & up a pound?

Lee

Title: Re: Philosophers Stone - the legal shroom
Post by Flash on Jun 30^th, 2004, 10:50am

on 06/30/04 at 10:22:14, forgetfulnot wrote:

Flash, are these those things that cost $200.00 US & up a pound?

Lee

No - they should cost around <$4 per gram fresh.

Title: Re: Philosophers Stone - the legal shroom
Post by ozzman on Jun 30^th, 2004, 3:24pm

Er.... $4 a gram would be over $1,800, much more than 200

Title: Re: Philosophers Stone - the legal shroom
Post by Pinkfloyd on Jun 30^th, 2004, 5:41pm

on 06/30/04 at 15:24:58, ozzman wrote:

Er.... $4 a gram would be over $1,800, much more than 200

It's not cheap becoming a philosopher! ;;D

Title: Re: Philosophers Stone - the legal shroom
Post by floridian on Jun 30^th, 2004, 10:44pm

on 06/30/04 at 05:03:51, Flash wrote:

Psilocybe Tampanensis is a truffle, and is legal in most places. In addition to psilocybin and psilocin it contains numerous other lesser know psychoactive substances.

The truffles are legal in most places both fresh and dry.
Flash

Not a lawyer, but I understand that any material containing psilocybin is illegal in the US.

From Erowid:

Quote:

Psilocybin mushrooms are not specifically named in the U.S. federal scheduling system, however their two primary active chemicals Psilocybin and Psilocin are both Schedule I in the United States. This makes them illegal to buy, sell, or possess without a DEA license. Fresh and dried psilocybin mushrooms are considered containers of Psilocybin and Psilocin, making them illegal to possess as well.

Because spores contain no psilocybin or psilocin, they are legal to sell and possess (in all states except California and Georgia). But in most states, it is illegal to cultivate or propogate spores into mycelium since mycelium generally contains both psilocybin and psilocin.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_law.shtml

The fact that it is a 'truffle' is not likely to make a legal difference as far as I know. Sclerotium (truffles) are different from the fruiting bodies of fungi, but the law does not ban parts of fungi or even species of fungi - it bans psilocybin and psilocin.

Title: Re: Philosophers Stone - the legal shroom
Post by Flash on Jul 1^st, 2004, 5:30am

What a pound or kilo costs is irrelevant since nobody should need to purchase anything like that quantity.

Title: Re: Philosophers Stone - the legal shroom
Post by pubgirl on Jul 1^st, 2004, 5:12pm

Is that what Van the Man's album is named after?

Just wondering.......

W

Title: Re: Philosophers Stone - the legal shroom
Post by floridian on Jul 1^st, 2004, 10:36pm

on 07/01/04 at 17:12:15, pubgirl wrote:

Is that what Van the Man's album is named after?

Just wondering.......

W

Dunno, maybe not - the term 'philosopher's stone' goes back to alchemy - it was the hypothetical substance that could transmutate matter - lead into gold, for example.

Title: Re: Philosophers Stone - the legal shroom
Post by pubgirl on Jul 2^nd, 2004, 5:54am

Duh, dopey me, oh yes, must be because Van can turn an average song into pure gold.

but then again, bet Van likes shrooms! ;;D

Wendy

Title: Re: Philosophers Stone - the legal shroom
Post by pinksharkmark on Jul 4^th, 2004, 9:39am

While the sclerotia-producing species of psilocybe (P. tampanensis, P. mexicana) have advantages for clusterheads when compared to the mushroom-producing species, legality unfortunately is not one of them -- at least in the United States and Canada. Both species are definitely illegal in North America.

It may be diferent in Holland and the UK.

pinky

Title: Re: Philosophers Stone - the legal shroom
Post by miapet on Jul 4^th, 2004, 10:35am

Maybe we need a list of vacation spots where it is legal . . .we know Holland and the UK . . but, I know there are more . . .Flash once posted something about other places . . .maybe with a list, people can travel more, and kick the beast to the curb all at the same time? Oh, and have little get-togethers with those who are either a: living there, or b: visiting/medicating there? . . .Just an idea *g*
*positive light and energy*
miapet

Title: Re: Philosophers Stone - the legal shroom
Post by floridian on Jul 6^th, 2004, 11:00am

on 07/04/04 at 10:35:46, miapet wrote:

Maybe we need a list of vacation spots where it is legal . . .
miapet

Add the British Virgin Islands to the list. A stone's throw from Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands.

Title: Re: Philosophers Stone - the legal shroom
Post by miapet on Jul 6^th, 2004, 1:35pm

oooooooooohhhhhhhhhh . . .how cool . . .we want a cabin to get away to . . maybe it should be a houseboat!
Thanks floridian!
*positive light and energy*
miapet