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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by Prense on Jun 18th, 2004, 9:34pm You're a better man than I... ;;D |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by Gator on Jun 19th, 2004, 2:08pm Dude, look down. There are two other threads on this page alone about red pepper and hot sauce treatment for CH. I suppose you had to try, though. Gator |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by Gator on Jun 19th, 2004, 3:11pm on 06/19/04 at 14:30:30, Jeff_08505 wrote:
Oh, well in that case, someone posted what they said was a cure in the guestbook. It involves rubbing cat schit on your head. One of the entries is purportedly from a neurologist. ;;D Seriously, though. The pepper thing I could almost believe, capsasium has pain relieving applications. Problem is I am a hot sauce and hot pepper hound and I still get HA's. This crap (no pun intended) about cat schit, though is obviously an attempt to get someone to do something disgusting. The person/people who wrote the entries should be publically flogged in the town square and broadcast across the internet. Gator PS: If you do try this and are stupid enough to come back and tells us, you deserve every bit of razzing you get. Here are the entries from the guestbook for you: I read the previous posts with interest. In my 1995 paper "Cutanous applications for neuropathic pain: A novel approach(J.Irrep.Results; 3:4,pp33-45;1995), I addressed the topic. Ammonia is indeed a good solvent for cutaneous absorption of carrying agents, and feline fecal matter is rich in taurine, an agent that can help stop the reuptake of substance P and inflammatory neurokinins. Cat urine can therefore give double benefits. So the combination will doubtlessly work to a degree, but beware: Many cat foods now have low taurine to avoid urinary stones, so don't feed this type of food to your cat if you want to enhanse efficacy (read the label on the bag). Covering the paste with the new "clear duct tape" from the 3M company seems to work well for my patients. Nelson <N.Sanchez@lima.neuro.edu> Lima, Oh USA Friday, June 04, 2004 at 14:23:43 (EDT) I think these messages took a turn to the odd, but here is something to think about: Cat urine is mostly ammonia (NH3). In a pinch, you could use the clay-based residue in a litter box as the emulsifiling agent: The clay-litter soaked with urine plus the "droppings" (I generally use another term), grind to a paste. *poof* you have all the ingredients for a topical paste combined from the same source (the litter box). I've tried weirder things... Scot <Scotmeister@oakgrove.net> Louisville, Ky USA Friday, June 04, 2004 at 13:36:07 (EDT) I once tried the household ammonia with bird guano. It helped, but kept running down the back of my shirt. It would make sense that the cat droppings would be more effective. Mike <MikeS@Sinclairnews.org> Jacksonville, FL USA Friday, June 04, 2004 at 11:34:20 (EDT) My husband has cluster headaches. I treat them by rubbing a paste of household ammonia and cat droppings into the back of his scalp when he is in pain. I don't know if it works or not, but he stopped complaining to me! Lori <lori@pollard.com> brunswick, ga USA |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by Superpain on Jun 19th, 2004, 6:32pm If you squirt sperm in your eye, that will kill a ch immediately! Seriously! Try it! |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by bbrown2b on Jun 19th, 2004, 7:07pm I must agree I read the post on the cat litter patse. If the cayenne pepper work for you to eleviate a few HA's don't look a gift horse in the mouth. |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by don on Jun 19th, 2004, 10:44pm LMMFAO! We've all tried some pretty wierd shit to get these bastards to stop. Lay off the alcohol and stop putting vegetables in your nose. Strained or otherwise. |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by mynm156 on Jun 20th, 2004, 12:55pm on 06/19/04 at 18:32:06, Superpain wrote:
DUDE UR KILLING ME !!!! [smiley=crackup.gif] MYNM156 |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by Gator on Jun 20th, 2004, 8:28pm on 06/19/04 at 19:07:13, bbrown2b wrote:
Try the other end!!! [smiley=crackup.gif] ROFLMAO [smiley=crackup.gif] I know partially quoted and totally out of context, but considering the turn this thread has taken... Gator |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by Gator on Jun 20th, 2004, 8:34pm Oh, man. Check it out. Dude deleted his posts. What a wuss. Hey Jeff. We all say things we later regret. Might as well have fun with them. If you can't laugh at yourself and all, ya know...sheesh Gator |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by Jeff_08505 on Jun 21st, 2004, 11:19am Gator you know what's funny you started getting clusters in 2003,i've been getting them since 1992 and you want the world to know you get them!! I feel so bad for you :'( .I went about 10 years with no meds. I lost a job because of these headaches,and then theres always a loudmouth like your self that thinks everything is funny when it comes to other people (grow up!) That's all you SELF CENTERED WUSS BAG!!! PS. everybody look at the axe in gators head he's in so much pain [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]no one else here has pain in there head just that poor guy :'( Do us all a favor GO BACK TO THE SWAMP!!!! ;;D For the new people,not everyone here is like this Selfcentered GOOOOOOOOFBALL! Most people are here to try to give help! But there's always a clown from the swamp!!! |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by don on Jun 21st, 2004, 12:07pm For someone who has clusters for 12 years your a little thin skinned. |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by E-Double on Jun 21st, 2004, 4:43pm I'm new to this board as well and have been getting these killer CH's for over a decade without taking any meds until last week. 10 years, 6 months or 2 days are too damn long to be in the amount of pain that any of us are in!!! I may be taking things out of context. For all I know you have an established relationship with Gator, but I think what you wrote and how you wrote it was damn B.S!! We all got our shit and ya know what I think every single one of us MOther F'ers are probobly the toughest beings around!! I have no problem saying I wake up crying or go ahead and make fun of me for this one.... Sniffed amonia based on that possible bullshit post just to get rid of the pain, knowing full well that it could have messed me up even more! I have a background in science ;) Point is this: I personally have found comfoprt in everything from this site: From the cat shit ;;D to the Cayenne pepper, to guys like Gator, Thomas, Lobster, and the few others who consistently have "looked out" for one of the new guys! Me. I think it's all in jest! Be well and take it a notch down!!!!!! Eric on 06/21/04 at 11:19:31, Jeff_08505 wrote:
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by Superpain on Jun 21st, 2004, 5:22pm on 06/21/04 at 11:19:31, Jeff_08505 wrote:
Oh shit... You tried squitring sperm in your eye didn't you? I can see how that would piss you off... Getting hit, and having sperm in your eye too! [smiley=laugh.gif] Lighten up... No matter how many years you've had em or how bad they are, you can guarantee there's someone here that makes your shit look like a cakewalk. And I am a self centered goofball/clown too, just not from the swamp... But as far as your headaches go... what 12-13 yrs now? 10 yrs, no meds? Big fuckin deal. So far you register higher on the whiney bitch scale than you do the ch sufferer scale... [smiley=laugh.gif] Now don't go get even more pissed... I'm just calling it like I see it. Like Don said... 8) |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by Ueli on Jun 21st, 2004, 5:57pm I propose Jeff_08505 for "the most obnoxious newbie of this board" award. Anybody supporting this motion? Ueli [smiley=smokin.gif] |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by E-Double on Jun 21st, 2004, 6:03pm You guys are harsh!!! Funny as hell though!! Needed the laugh so I thank you! God, I hope this "newbie" doesn't sound all whiney and shit! And even if I do: So what! right! we all do at one time or another. BE A MAN!!! ;;D Man I miss the booze!!!!!!!! In fact I'd like some Yukon Jack followed by a pepper chaser. Be well, Eric Oh yeah forgot to thank Superpain when I listed my new "mentors" Maybe someday I'll get to meet you all1 Take care |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by FZfan on Jun 21st, 2004, 6:19pm Gator - New board hall of famer Jeff_whatever - New board newbie Don't hafta go much further than that. Hey Gator, do they have swamps in Oklahoma, or is he asking you to go back to Louisianna? Superpain - LMAO! |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by Superpain on Jun 21st, 2004, 6:19pm Thanks for the mention.... I've been the biggest whiney bitch there ever was in cycle. But it was about pain, not something written on a bbs.... I am the flamemaster supreme. And the slightest upset newbie flailing about draws me in with the torch in hand... But I just can't do it right on this board.... Everybody, even the ignorant smartass newbies are still suffering pretty good. So I'm still reluctant to really open up a can of flame-ass on anyone. But I've had an itchy typing finger for a while now and I'm just waiting till someone gets REAL stupid, and maybe I can finally get some satisfaction. 8) |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by E-Double on Jun 21st, 2004, 6:28pm Thanks for the mention.... No Problem and Thank you!!! I've been the biggest whiney bitch there ever was in cycle. But it was about pain, not something written on a bbs... . I understand people needing to vent but it should I guess be about trying to get help not some statements made light heartedly. Then again I don't know you all, but y'all (southern/midwest tribute) have been helpful to me!! Anyway catch all on some other thread! Eric |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by BobG on Jun 22nd, 2004, 2:49pm on 06/21/04 at 17:57:15, Ueli wrote:
Hmmm, I don't know Ueli. My mind wonders back to Danny Boy. Where is he anyway? He's got guts and resilience. No matter how many time he gets a beating he gets up, brushes himself off and takes another. I miss him. ::) |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by Jeff_08 on Jun 22nd, 2004, 2:53pm ;;D ;;D ;;D THANK YOU ;;D ;;D ;;D |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by Rock_Lobster on Jun 22nd, 2004, 3:06pm on 06/21/04 at 17:57:15, Ueli wrote:
Got my 2nd! |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by Superpain on Jun 22nd, 2004, 4:57pm Yeah, but Freddy stirred up much more of a shit storm than this guy... I think you have to make an attack on jonny before you can get the award. |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by thomas on Jun 22nd, 2004, 5:03pm on 06/22/04 at 16:57:45, Superpain wrote:
I wish some one would attack me again [smiley=bigcry.gif].......... it's been so long since Markiemark made that mistake. [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by Gator on Jun 22nd, 2004, 6:01pm ROTFLMAO!!! Thank you my brothers. I think his drawers are just on a bit tight. He's having trouble breathing. ;;D Oh, and the skidmarks go in back!!! [smiley=laugh.gif] Jeff-whatever: If I get caught being stupid in a no stupid zone, I learn from it and move on. I have never been so lame as to delete a post so people that people couldn't read whatever stupid remark I might have made. Layed is played as far as I'm concerned unless the Moderator asks otherwise. As far as pain goes, I don't care if you've been hurting 10 years or 10 minutes - pain is pain. If I can help someone forget their pain for just a few minutes by being a clown, I'll don the Bozo outfit any day, even for you. Don't get so wrapped up in yourself and your pain that you can't laugh at yourself. It's a sure ticket to insanity. That's something the people here know that you apparently need to learn. Even though I don't HAVE to explain it, the axe is to denote the side the pain is on. I tried doing a pic with a dagger in my eye and it didn't show up well enough for my personal liking. As far as being me being self-centered, how many clusterheads have YOU talked through an attack, even though you were hurting youself? How many people have YOU done research for because they weren't sure how to find it on the net? How many people have YOU stood up for when they made anunpopular post and everyone else was trashing them? How many clusterheads have YOUR phone number with instructions to call you if they ever need to talk ANYTIME day or night? How many times have YOU cried because someone you never met was going through a really bad time and you felt powerless to help them? As far as my being helpful, the first post I made in this thread was to direct you to a couple other threads where the topic had been discussed at length, with a concilliatory statement thrown in to show I understand. The second post I made was one made in fun to help you laugh at the situation. Then you pulled the lame a$s stunt of removing your posts. To make it worse, you come back under a different name and try to trash me? My only regret is that I did not quote your posts in their entirety. If your pain is the most important thing in your life, then you need to seriously re-evaluate your life and your priorities. As far as your insults: I've been called worse by better. Probably will again, too. Excuse me if I go an with my life, now that you have crushed my feelings. Your little rant has served no more than to amuse me. If you wanna shake hands and play nice, I am still willing to do that as well. This is a great place for information and support and I'd hate to see anyone do without either. Gator |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by broomhilda on Jun 22nd, 2004, 6:12pm Gator, excellent reply, I am touched ;;D, you hit the nail on the head, nicely put!!! Hugs Andrea |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by Jeff_08 on Jun 22nd, 2004, 10:07pm Ok Gator if it doesn't hurt my ratings (I propose Jeff_08505 for "the most obnoxious newbie of this board" award.) Cause i would like this award!! I think i mis judged you.I accept your handshake!! Sorry i jumped the gun on you. |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by Gator on Jun 22nd, 2004, 11:38pm on 06/22/04 at 22:07:26, Jeff_08 wrote:
Hey, no blood drawn, no harm done. We clusterheads and our assorted supporters gotta stick together, 'cause we're all we got. We face a disease even the medical community doesn't understand and that causes us great frustration at times. Take some time, read through all the help on the left. There is some really great info there and on the OUCH website. Different people post new relevent stuff all the time in answer to questions or to bring up a new idea to everyone. If you don't find the info you need, ask. Some may give you a little 'tude because the question "has been asked a thousand times" - ask anyways. Better you should get the info you need to make an informed decision. Also know that none of us are doctors and as such can only provide you with information or personal experience. You should discuss anything you read with a doctor before trying anything. Read through some of the posts and when you get your legs, come join us in the General area. I have to warn you - wear your thick skin there. We don't just sit around crying about how much pain we have. We discuss, debate and sometimes argue over a multitude of topics, some serious - some not. We are a very loving and supportive family, but we are just that - a family. As in any family, tempers can get short. Smartass answers can be the order of the day. Sometimes you're the windshield - sometimes you're the bug. In case I hadn't said it before, welcome to clusterville. Gator |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by Jeff_08 on Jun 22nd, 2004, 11:56pm By the way my ch's are on my right side also. the very first one i got i got up at 3:30 am. got dressed cause i thought i was having a stroke.Now when i get a normal headache it's nothing.They are the worst pain that i ever had!! We're the (LUCKY) ones.Take care |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by Gator on Jun 23rd, 2004, 2:55pm Oddly enough, I have not had a "regular" headache since contracting this crap. I hardly ever had headaches at all before getting hit, either. I know I'm not the only one. As far as being lucky. I hope that was sarcasm. I haven't felt lucky for the last 8 months that I have been having the attacks without remission. I know, I know and yes, I'll take some cheese with my whine. Sharp Cheddar, please. ;;D Gator Hey, who cut the cheese? [smiley=huh.gif] |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by don on Jun 23rd, 2004, 10:03pm Moe, Larry, the cheese, the cheese! |
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Title: Re: CAYENNE PEPPER Post by Gator on Jun 28th, 2004, 1:43pm on 06/23/04 at 22:03:15, don wrote:
Nyuk, Nyuk Nyuk, Nyuk Woob Woob Woob Woob Woob Woob Woob Woob Woob Gator No. The Limberger! |
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