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Title: Pepper treatment Post by aidancael on May 16th, 2004, 11:50am I'm new here, but have been suffering through the pain of these headaches since I was 12, and I'm now 29. I just wanted to pass this info along for what you might call an 'alternative' treatment. Both my brother and I have recently started to use it, and the results are really encouraging! Anyway, here is the website. http://www.sinusbuster.com |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by mynm156 on May 16th, 2004, 1:09pm KINDA BRINGS TEARS TO YOUR EYES JUST THINKING ABOUT IT! But Hey In the mindst of a CH I'd eat cat shit if it would make it go away. [smiley=bigcry.gif] MYNM156 |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by BobG on May 16th, 2004, 5:26pm Hey aidancael, When you say "suffering through the pain of these headaches", what headaches are you referring to? And does you brother suffer the same headaches pain? Just wondering. Welcome to the board. |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by floridian on May 17th, 2004, 10:08am Pepper (capsaicin) may have some value. But it has to burn first to deplete the nerves of substance P. Sinusbuster reportedly doesn't burn, which is suspicious. Eating tabasco sauce on your food is more likely to help. Eating ginger may have the same effect - if the ginger is strong and burns. The same with cinnamon - if its red hot, its depleting substance P. The guy who sells sinusbuster is a shameless self promoter. Seeing a glowing but vague testimony from a newbies first post makes me suspicious. |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by JDH on May 17th, 2004, 10:40am on 05/17/04 at 10:08:17, floridian wrote:
You mean to tell me this guy and his brother might be trying to sell us something? :o The nerve ;) are we gonna have to let the dogs out again? Jim |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by thomas on May 17th, 2004, 11:16am We've seen it already. |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by mynm156 on May 17th, 2004, 4:26pm But wait dont order yet. If you act now you'll get these wondeful Three month supple of Kleenex may not cure your CH but will rotto rooter your sinus!!! MYNM156 |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by pubgirl on May 17th, 2004, 5:07pm back so soon? It's only on Page 2 of this board the last time this came up. Getting boring W |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by Chadsgirl on Jun 1st, 2004, 4:28pm Hi everyone I'm back! I posted a few months ago about SINUSBUSTER. I was asking if anybody had any sucess with it, and got the same kind of comments from a few of you skeptics. I ordered it for my husband and he began using it right away. (It dose burn like hell)!After just a couple of days his CH were gone :D and have not returned! This is all he is taking now as we still dont have health insurance. He takes one or two shots up the left side of his nose each morning. He says it dosent burn as bad as it did at first and he almost craves it each morning like his coffee. We are very pleased with the results form SINUSBUSTER. We will be ordering more. Wish him (my husband) luck. And why not give it a try yourselves, anything is better than the beast! Chadsgirl |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by thomas on Jun 1st, 2004, 4:33pm I have a bottle of Melinda's XXXX special reserve habanero sauce that I use from time to time. It doesn't do much good, so I'm not gonna spend money on something that is not as hot as that. |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by Ueli on Jun 1st, 2004, 6:41pm Did you notice aidancael's tag line? Headaches suck. A bit lame from a "clusterhead", don't you think. :o |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by FZfan on Jun 2nd, 2004, 6:06pm on 06/01/04 at 16:33:25, thomas wrote:
you got some Melinda's? Is that the hot sauce from Belize? I love that stuff, although I can't handle the XXXX. I prefer the X. Even the single X is hotter than most hot sauces I've tried, but the flavor is really unique. Unfortunately, can't find any Melinda's in these parts. |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by thomas on Jun 2nd, 2004, 6:25pm on 06/02/04 at 18:06:02, FZfan wrote:
Yep the XXXX comes in a black labeled bottle, great stuff, the best hot sauce there is, in my book. |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by FZfan on Jun 2nd, 2004, 6:33pm I couldn't agree more. I brought several bottles back with me last time I was there many years ago. My favorite dish to put it on is stir-fry, believe it or not. I remember giving a few bottles of the XXX to friends who claimed there wasn't a hot sauce made that was too hot for them. Sure was funny watching them try it. As I recall, the secret to their unique flavor is the sauce is carrot-based? Anyway, sure beats talking about fucking sinusbusters! |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by thomas on Jun 3rd, 2004, 8:48am Yes it is carrot based and has much less vinegar the most sauces. If they thought that the XXX was hot, you should give them some Dave's Insanity Sauce or Endorphin Rush, now those are frickin' HOT man. |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by mynm156 on Jun 3rd, 2004, 5:16pm HOT SAUCE UP YOUR NOSE?! DAMN!!!! Your all bigger men than I am... MYNM156 |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by FZfan on Jun 3rd, 2004, 5:18pm Yeah, I saw a show on FoodTV about hot sauces that featured Dave and his Insanity sauce. If I remember correctly, I think it won a prize in some hot sauce contest. I'll have to try it one of these days. (To eat, not to "cure" my h/a's) |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by thomas on Jun 3rd, 2004, 6:12pm Had some Dave's Temporary Insanity Sauce on a "road-kill" burrito today, nice burn........... [smiley=smug.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by thomas on Jun 3rd, 2004, 6:13pm on 06/03/04 at 17:16:41, mynm156 wrote:
LOL, I am bigger than most humans. ;;D |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by FZfan on Jun 3rd, 2004, 6:17pm Ok, I gotta ask, what is a "road-kill" burrito? |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by thomas on Jun 3rd, 2004, 6:22pm on 06/03/04 at 18:17:27, FZfan wrote:
BBQ chicken, steak, peppers, onions, some assorted spices, lettuce, tomatos, sour cream. Mighty tasty. |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by FZfan on Jun 3rd, 2004, 6:34pm What? No possum? ;;D |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by Gator on Jun 8th, 2004, 5:19pm I've read in several places here that hot sauce can keep the beast away, but I can't see ti working for me. I was raised in South Louisiana and use cayenne pepper and/or tobasco on damn near everything. I eat jalapenos with most meals. I also use the Tobasco brand Habenro Sauce (which is also carrot based) and the As$ Kicking Habenero Sauce and the Datl Do It Hot Pepper Sauce. I never heard of some of the stuff ya'll are talking about. I don't personally care for just hot. It has to have flavor as well or there's no use in eating it. Does this Melinda's taste good or is it just hot? If hot sauce were a cure, I'd be pain free. Gator |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by thomas on Jun 8th, 2004, 5:24pm Melinda's tastes fucking great, so does Dave's. Plus they are really fucking hot. ;;D |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by Rock_Lobster on Jun 8th, 2004, 5:28pm You made me fucking hungry... Heading for mexican as soon as I am off this conference call. I take a bottle of of 'Pain is Good Jamaican Style' with me... burns like a bitch... makes me sweat like a wh0re on dollar day. :'( |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by Gator on Jun 8th, 2004, 5:53pm on 06/08/04 at 17:28:47, Rock_Lobster wrote:
Yeah, the hot stuff does that to me, too. Sweat like a pig at a barbeque, face turns red, sweat pours off my forehead. Don't care. Pass the napkins and don't get too close to my food. You'll draw back a nub. |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by Jeff_08505 on Jun 19th, 2004, 2:09pm You can order the hot sauce here http://www.melindas.com |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by SteveY on Jun 22nd, 2004, 12:31pm Tried it. It don't work. Now I've heard pouring a gallon of petrol up the nostril of the affected side, leaving it for 2 minutes so it's fully soaked in............then lighting a cigarette brings instant results. Don't waste your money. Steve |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by thomas on Jun 22nd, 2004, 12:41pm on 06/22/04 at 12:31:31, SteveY wrote:
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by BAMBOO_RIVERS on Jun 23rd, 2004, 11:01pm [font=Verdana][/font]ABOUT TIME SOMEBODY STARTED TALKING ABOUT SINUS BUSTER. TRY IT!!!! OR WOULD YOU RATHER KEEP THAT HEADACHE!!! I COULDN'T BELEIVE SOME OF YOU IDIOTS!!!! I'M SURE D.J. IS REAL PROUD. [b][/b] ::) |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by thomas on Jun 24th, 2004, 8:43am on 06/23/04 at 23:01:18, BAMBOO_RIVERS wrote:
Enough dick heads have already talked about it, take your suitcase and go somewhere else, shitsalesman. Fuck off! |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by broomhilda on Jun 24th, 2004, 3:32pm on 06/23/04 at 23:01:18, BAMBOO_RIVERS wrote:
Ya, what Thomas said, Fuck off and don't say a word about DJ...... oh and ps- please let the door hit you in the ass on the way out >:( |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by Superpain on Jun 24th, 2004, 4:09pm Dumbass can't even use automated vb code right. ::) [smiley=laugh.gif] Try spraying some up your ass, or would you rather be a hemmhroid forever? |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by Gator on Jun 25th, 2004, 3:59pm on 06/23/04 at 23:01:18, BAMBOO_RIVERS wrote:
Let's see. #1 Typing in all caps in internet language is yelling = You are socially inept. #2 Cannot figure out how to use simple formatting commands = You are stupid. #3 Trying to sell us something that we already know does not work = You are annoying. #4 Calling names = You are rude. With all this going for you, you should do well in the sales industry. Good luck and good bye. Come back when you can't stay as long. Gator What a pathetic loser. |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by MaxPayne on Jun 27th, 2004, 8:06pm The SINUS BUSTER relieves: Chronic & Occasional congestion. Chronic Sinus & Allergy symptoms. Cluster & Migraine headaches and headaches associated with sinus congestion. Also fights allergy triggers such as alcohol, smoke, dry heat, and pollen. Helps fight sinus infections especially when taken at the first sign of a cold. Aids vascular blood flow through the sinus cavity and head region. Promotes normal sinus drainage and does not dry out your nasal passages It's not my goddamn sinuses that hurts it's my fucking head, I'll buy the shit next time I get a cold! |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by bradlake on Jul 10th, 2004, 10:05pm Hey folks... This is my first post, so be gentle.. Iam a right-side CH sufferer for thirty years, usually two 6-12 week cycles per year, been to Diamond Clinic in Chicago, tried everything from Imitrex, Predisone and Verapamil to lidocaine, O2 , head bashing, and various illicits. I can only speak for myself, but the results I am seeing with Sinusbuster can only be described as life-changing. I am in a CH cycle right now (we see 'em coming, don't we....) and I have not had one debilitating attack using the Sinusbuster in both a preventive and curative regimen. It DOES burn but its a good, good burn...really. I have no association with the company other than as an extremely grateful customer.....much much better than cat shit and anyway as Triumph the Insult comic dog says.... Cats are C***ts..... |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by Kevin_M on Jul 11th, 2004, 9:08pm Let's see, Three single post persons and one three post person are the only ones that have been either satisfied with this product and/or recommend it. Clearly convincing. Thanks. Kevin M |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by Reasonable_Guy on Jul 14th, 2004, 1:28pm Came here--first time--wondering if any comments on Sinus Buster. Why I even bothered to look at this particular 'claim' was this study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8495452&dopt=Abstract I appreciate the comments of those who have used the product. People who have intentionally confused the topic of ingestion and nasal application for humor's sake--that would have been funny but the purpose seems to be to obfuscate the issue. Why? Surely you know the difference between a swollowing something and putting it up your nose--If not I'd hate to sit near you at a resteraunt. :-) Telling people to fuck off may give you jollies. Hey, do what you need to get off but you can't continue the delusion that you are somehow some hero standing up against an evil capitalist promoting a useless product. No, you are just someone who gets off by abusing others. Well God Bless you--have fun with that. Accept your sick nature--why the pretense that you are Mr. Skeptic keep the world safe from snake-oil? It's just words, you are not hurting anyone--continue--tell me to fuck off. You'll feel better. Just don't pretend you're anything more than a simple everyday run-o-the-mill jerk. |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by Bob P on Jul 14th, 2004, 1:35pm Ya know, Old Paco (emphasis on old) used to abort his clusters with tobasco under his tongue. At the Atlanta OUCH convention he handed out those little (about 1/8 oz.) bottles of tobasco to everyone. I've still got a bottle of green and one of red sitting on the shelf in the dining room. Have to give it a try next time. |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by floridian on Jul 14th, 2004, 2:19pm on 07/14/04 at 13:28:05, Reasonable_Guy wrote:
We've seen many hucksters log on here and pump their products. More than one 'sufferer' who innocently asked 'has anybody tried Acme's Cure' have turned out to be a slickster who know nothing about clusters. We don't like that kind of outsider. We tend to be rude and abusive to newbies who start with those questions. Maybe not fair, but that's the way it is here. If you have clusters, stick around, and people will warm up to you. You will learn things that help you deal with the beast. You will see people gored in bloody debates, but amazingly, they won't be hurt. Personally, I have had better results with cayenne in capsules than anything put up the nose into the sinuses. The capsules do work, and hot sauce helps some. With hot pepper sprays or creams in the nose, the pain, runny nose, and eye affects are bad - almost as bad as the headache. I haven't tried the particular brand often mentioned here because I don't like the way that guy operates. At the very least, he is exaggerating the value of a commodity and selling at high prices. His sales spiel is annoying and reduced his credibility to near zero in my book. |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by pubgirl on Jul 14th, 2004, 2:22pm Simple fact The official capsaicin trials reported that started 2 years ago were terminated before they were finished as there was NO EVIDENCE WHATEVER COMING FROM THEM OF ANY ABORTIVE OR PREVENTIVE PROPERTIES! No offence, but I'd rather listen to that kind of evidence than some person who may not even be a CH sufferer who posts on here that shoving something up their nose works Wendy |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by floridian on Jul 14th, 2004, 2:30pm To the sock puppets on this board: why bother to argue with us. Why not just send $9.99 plus shipping and handling to the sinus buster man? Try it yourself. Or get a bottle of cayenne capsules for $6 at the local pharmacy or health food store. Or send some money to Florida for a bottle of the local Datil Pepper sauce (only Datil is really good. It is specially formulated after years of research. The other brands often contain hog swill. :P ) Capsaicin affects the nerves that transmit pain and could have some value for clusters. We don't like a particular brand because of past experiences here. That's about all I have to say about that. |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by floridian on Jul 14th, 2004, 2:42pm on 07/14/04 at 14:22:24, pubgirl wrote:
Simple question: did the people that terminated these trials publish the results in a refereed scientific journal? There is published research showing that capsaicin does help with episodic clusters, but seems to lose effectiveness after about 40 days. The published research on civamide (a synthetic capsaicin analog) showed a treatment effect - a modest improvement but not an Earth-shaking cure. Capsaicin has been demonstrated effective or somewhat effective in a wide variety of conditions where pain management is desired. Quote:
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by floridian on Jul 14th, 2004, 3:26pm Press Release Internationally known authority and all around great guy Floridian announced today that Datil Peppers are the only capsaicin products he has endorsed for culinary and medicinal uses. Floridian, who has never been on the Oprah show, has suffered from 'these headaches' since the early 90's. Citing medical research and personal preference, Floridian discussed his great admiration for these excellent Datil Pepper products. "The Datil pepper has an immediate effect on people - its unmistakable and powerful" he noted at the press conference. The Datil pepper is grown almost exclusively in the Northern Florida city of St. Augustine. St. Augustine is considered to be the oldest city in the United States, founded in 1565. The state of Florida was claimed for Spain in 1516 by Ponce de Leon in what is now the city of St. Augustine. This is where he is said to have found the famed "Fountain of Youth". Who knows, maybe it was really the peppers! For more information or to buy this gift from the ancients, see http://www.minorcandatil.com/ http://www.pepperproducts.com/ http://datilsensation.com/ Datil Doit for now! |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by Gator on Jul 14th, 2004, 4:24pm Floridian, I love the Datil Doit pepper sauce. Been using it for a couple years. I use all kinds of pepper sauce from mild Louisiana Hot Sauce to various kinds of Habanero sauce. I also eat tabasco, jalapeno and other peppers with a lot my meals As far as stopping CH - I'll only say not for me. Gator |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by pubgirl on Jul 14th, 2004, 10:34pm Hi Floridian Sorry, not sure if it was published. It was Manjit Matharu who used to be Goadsby's research registrar who told us they had ended it as they felt it was valueless. That was good enough for me to write it off as a potential treatment. Wendy |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by thomas on Jul 20th, 2004, 8:34am on 07/14/04 at 13:28:05, Reasonable_Guy wrote:
OW, that hurt. First of all, if you had a clue about my "true nature" you would NEVER say anything like that about me, this is ploy, used by internet marketers to make those who call them what they are, feel guilty, guess what shit-heal, ain't happening here, now start packing. |
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Title: Peppers my ass! Post by BobG on Jul 20th, 2004, 8:17pm I’ve been at this site for a long time. I can remember when talk of the pepper cure first started. It was a joke. It was started as a joke. Nobody took it seriously. We laughed about it and had a lot of fun with it. We also had fun with Boji Stones and the 2nd gear vibration on a Harley. But the peppers keep coming back thanks to snake-oil salesmen. It’s like herpes, no matter what you do it keeps coming back. There are a lot more important treatments to discuss than peppers-up-the-nose. Let’s move on to some serious talk of causes, i.e. Peruvian butterfly farts and allergies to horse manure. And “Do side flaps on your TFH really protect against cluster-ear?” Sorry if there are any misspelled words. The electromagnetic field around my copper bracelet plays funny tricks on my keyboard. :D |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by LeeS on Jul 21st, 2004, 1:52pm Quote:
I keep spilling my tobasco sauce on the keyboard and I can't stop the hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh from sticking. :D -Lee |
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Title: Re: Pepper treatment Post by ExPat_jac on Jul 30th, 2004, 5:45am >> I was raised in South Louisiana hahaha well shit man, that explains it right there... You don't suffer CH's...you're just like most cajuns...you're just hung over :) Just kiddin friend...I lived and worked for a few years in DEEP south Louisiana..Chauvin, (if you know where that is, you know just how deep south I mean ;)) But I have been following this thread...I have recently found myself in Jakarta, and once I started eatting the more hot (spicy) loval foods, I head has been giving me a break) |
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