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Title: Another thread about shrooms.(Update) Post by 9erfan on Jan 12th, 2004, 6:50pm Hi everyone, Ok, I have my shrooms. But here's the deal: I don't have my scale yet so I have no clue how many grams were sent or how to measure how a dosage. So until my scale comes, what is the best way to store these shrooms? They are currently just in a zip-lock bag. How long will they last? Thanks, Virginia |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by Giovanni on Jan 12th, 2004, 7:44pm Hi Virginia, Your quantity is probably fairly small so I would just buy a bag of desiccant from one of those mailbox/shipping places (small bag--like a tea bag size). Place the desiccant into the zip lock with the mushies and that into a paper bag. Use a quality zippy bag like a freezer bag. Place in a cool, dry place. Long term storage another matter. Be sure to weigh them before dosing--I found the difference between 1.7 grams and 2.0 was a Mars launch and not a pleasant experience. Wishing you the best of luck. :P |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by Giovanni on Jan 12th, 2004, 7:47pm Oh yes, the experts will answer the question on dosage. I would recommend a small first time dosage myself..... ;;D |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by 9erfan on Jan 12th, 2004, 8:12pm on 01/12/04 at 19:44:54, Giovanni wrote:
Thanks John, but what's desiccant?? |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by Roxy on Jan 12th, 2004, 8:35pm Hey V....glad you finally got some!! I store mine in a ziplock....press all the air out of it, then wrap it in foil. You probably don't need the dessicant, whoever dried them, probably dried them very good. But, you can always go buy some beef jerky....a little package of dessicant is always in there, or any vitamin bottle. I use the foil to keep out the light. The first 7 or 8 times I dosed, I didn't have a scale. I just used about 3/4 of a tablespoon. But, I was pretty desperate. If your head is good, and you're not in a hurry....then you might want to wait on your scale. With the tablespoon measurement.....well, that was my little Woodstock adventure...... :P. Thank you for the package sweetie.....it was waiting on me when I got home yesterday..... :-* |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by 9erfan on Jan 12th, 2004, 9:05pm on 01/12/04 at 20:35:13, Roxy wrote:
Oh, I know what that stuff is... Quote:
Was that after you ground it up?? Your welcome! I can't believe it took that long to get there...that's Virginia Beach for you! |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by Roxy on Jan 12th, 2004, 9:33pm That was after I took the coffee grinder to it....yep.... :) It worked pretty good, it was Mast's advice on how much to take. BTW: V....please email me your phone numbers again. My cell phone is somewhere in the wilds of Iowa..... :'(......and, it had all my numbers stored on it. |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by Flounder on Jan 12th, 2004, 11:20pm Hi Virginia, I am assuming that what your friend sent you has already been dried. They should be cracker crisp. If this is the case just squeeze the air out of the baggie and keep in a cool dark place. I like to put the baggie in an airtight jar as well. If this is a small amount that won't be around for long then they should be fine in the baggie. Does your friend know what the total weight was? If you know that you can divide it into equal portions and come fairly close to what you want. I would suggest 1 gm for your first dose. Like Tracey suggested, if you can wait until your scale arrives it's best to know for sure how much you are taking. Good luck and keep us updated |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by 9erfan on Jan 14th, 2004, 3:00pm I just checked the UPS website. My scale is due to arrive on Friday. I have stuff to do all day Sat, so I'm thinking I will dose for the first time on Sunday. Is this going to enhance or distract from my NFL playoffs? I haven't decided if I'm doing the tea or just eating them raw. Aren't they just as gross either way? V. |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by Flash on Jan 14th, 2004, 5:29pm they have less of a flatulance problem if you do the tea correctly. remember to strain out the shrooms and don't boil anything or overcook |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by eyes_afire on Jan 14th, 2004, 6:53pm I agree with Flash. If you do the tea right, it's great. No stomach problems and you can mask the taste. Personally, I can't imagine just eating them, and I don't want to risk the upset stomach. I highly recommend the tea. Whether it will enhance or distract from NFL playoffs is largely dependent upon how big a dose and your watching preferences. For my first dose, I was watching NFL films. My first dose was... rather large, and now I'll never view NFL films the same way again LMMFAO. The dose MAY enhance the beauty of the NFL, but if you take a large dose (or are sensitive to it) you may not be able to comprehend what you're watching to your satisfaction as a football fan and it may prove to be an irritating distraction. It's entirely up to you. Good luck, hopefully this will give you some relief. --- Steve |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by ave on Jan 15th, 2004, 7:12am Virginia, a very cheap desiccant (as long as you avoid direct contact) is cat litter. They also sell the stuff in craft shops to dry flowers with. One way of masking the taste is chilling the tea before drinking. Worked fine for me. Best of luck to you this try! |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by jminmilwaukee on Jan 15th, 2004, 9:45am You c an always go to your local MART store and pick up some Damp Rid. Again, make sure there is no contact as it is poison. |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by 9erfan on Jan 15th, 2004, 12:12pm Thanks for all the advice. You've convinced me to go with the tea. Counting down the days 'till Sunday. :o |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by Tiannia on Jan 15th, 2004, 3:14pm Good Luck Virginia - I hope it works for you. Tia |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by mmcadam on Jan 15th, 2004, 3:36pm I haven't tripped in years. I massed emailed some people in my area and one responded by telling me about shrooms. I am 42 now and haven't tripped for a very long time. Especially without alcohol chaser. I am a chronic clusterhead about 2 years in it. I get breaks like a day or two otherwise it is constant. Does it work with Chronics? How hard do you have to trip. My mind is a little more complex than when I was young i.e. responcibiity, guilt, legal issue, etc. |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by tommyD on Jan 15th, 2004, 5:52pm mmcadam - Shrooms work for chronics, but it’s more difficult. You don’t have to trip hard, but you may have to take several doses, spaced at least four or five days apart. And some meds will interfere with the shrooms, include Imitrex and the other triptans, prednisone, ergotamines, and maybe opiate painkillers. The shrooms will often knock out the beast initially, but there may be additional attacks, often shorter and less intense, so it’s best if you can get by on O2 and maybe verapamil, and whatever other non-med treatments work for you. Look down the message board for the “Updates on Psilocybin Research???” thread for some recent accounts of the treatment. One hardcore chronic found relief, but it was quite a rollercoaster ride: a couple days pain free, then the beast would return. Another gave it up after a good try. A rough count of cases I’ve heard of shows it has worked for over 60 percent of chronics. Check out: www.clusterbusters.com -tommyD |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by Bob P on Jan 16th, 2004, 10:14am on 01/14/04 at 17:29:59, Flash wrote:
Since when is flatulance a problem? For Hub, it's one of the great joys in life! |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by notseinfeld on Jan 16th, 2004, 1:15pm mmcadam--- I'm 35 and chronic as well in similar one day pattern breaks as you have. I tried the shrooms 2 years ago (roughly) and had complete remission for 5 or 6 days and then back to the starting block. After 4+ pretty decent trips, it was all I could handle. Nothing before and nothing since has worked so convincingly as the shrooms. I'm gearing up now for another stab at it at the end of February. Hear ye, hear ye---If I, at my age and with my issues can handle the voyage, anyone can. Including you. I took 2.5g dried or better for each dose. It was a lot I realize and I seem particularly sensitive to its effect. Working w/the Pink One for a combo that'll save me from getting on Lithium. BTW: best piece of literature I've ever read is called 'the psilocybin solution.' It's a fantastic place to get an understanding (chapter 5) of what's going on and why, by all accounts, it should help. |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by Roxy on Jan 17th, 2004, 5:31pm Hey V, I know tomorrow is the big day. Just want you to know I'm thinking about you.....and my cell will be by my side all day. Stick my damn number on speed dial if ya need to. :-* Don't get all bent about doing it.....if I can do it...anyone can..... ;;D. |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by Roxy on Jan 18th, 2004, 8:03pm ROTFLMFAO.......... ;;D Just got a call from Virginia, she was one hour into her dose. Sounds like she hit the perfect dose. She said it felt like she had Actually it was pretty funny listening to someone who is dosing.....now, I know I don't giggle that much....LOL. Hope it kicks it's ass V...... :) |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by jmorgan52 on Jan 19th, 2004, 3:01am I really hope it worked for you Virginia, you have been suffering for so long with this horrible pain and you deserve some respite from it. I am PF again myself and it is a wonderful feeling. Hope you get to enjoy some too! good luck John |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by 9erfan on Jan 19th, 2004, 2:29pm Ok, here's my update. I dosed yesterday with exactly 1 gram at around 3:15 in the afternoon. It's true, I did get quite giggly. I also had a hard time finishing sentences (hey, I thought that was an effect of Topomax [smiley=laugh.gif]). Around 5pm I was getting a little bit of a shadow but nothing ever came of it and it was gone in 5 mins. I was suppose to get a ha at 7pm. I didn't get that one. Then at 10pm I got about a KIP 6 which lasted for about 1/2 hour. Then I went to sleep. I woke up at 4:30 am with a 3 and went back to sleep about 20 mins later. Today I am very groggy & I've been kinda shadowing most of the morning. It looks like I only have 1 more gram left from what was sent to me. Maybe I'll try that Friday night. I'll keep you posted on my head. |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by Pinkfloyd on Jan 19th, 2004, 6:29pm on 01/19/04 at 14:29:50, 9erfan wrote:
Sounds like 1g is just about right for you. Did you use tea with vit. C added? take some vit. C, B2, B12 and an aspirin...should take care of that groggy, achy feeling. Or you could just wash down an aspirin with a can of Red Bull. Good Luck! Don't let a stray attack discourage you, especially if they continue as less frequent and less intense than before the dose. PF |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by 9erfan on Jan 19th, 2004, 7:37pm OMG Pink, you were RIGHT! I just ran across the street and got a Red Bull and washed down 2 Excedrins with it. I feel a 100% better. :D And yes, I did do the tea with vitamin C. My tea didn't taste bad at all 'cause I used a flavored tea bag. ;) |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.... Post by Flounder on Jan 19th, 2004, 11:26pm Hope things continue to improve for you Virginia!!!! So, could you watch the game without laughing to hard? Hope you are not a Philly fan :'(, that would have made for a bad trip! ((((((Good Shroomy Vibes)))))) being sent! |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.(Update) Post by 9erfan on Jan 21st, 2004, 1:31pm Well, here's my update: Right after I sent email to Pink yesterday letting him know that I was doing pretty good and that the hits that I had had were shorter & less intense than usual.....I got HIT HARD! I got hit at 3:15 yesterday afternoon and had to leave my office in tears. Luckily, I only live a mile away so I raced home and hit the oxygen. Got hit hard again at 4:45, hit the oxygen again. Note to self: it's very difficult to suck in oxygen while you're balling your eyes out. Took some motrin around 5pm. Got hit again at 10pm, hit the oxygen for 15 mins and then went to bed. Woke up this morning at 4am (as usual) with a shadow. Took some motrin, went back to sleep. Oh, I also started taking a B-complex vitamin yesterday (with Vit C). I guess I need to get some magnesium too. Any idea how much? I know you guys told me to expect this so I'm just going with the flow here. I plan to dose again on Friday night. I did not get that "draining" feeling in my head the first time I dosed. So I will try 1.2 on Friday. Flounder- I watched the first game before I dosed on Sunday but wound up watching "Shrek" while dosing which was quite amusing. It's a good thing I didn't watch that Philly game because I would've been depressed. I'm a Donovan McNabb fan (sorry Roxy). ;;D V. |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.(Update) Post by Pinkfloyd on Jan 21st, 2004, 4:23pm on 01/21/04 at 13:31:08, 9erfan wrote:
Suggestions range from 200mg to 400mg per day. Happy to see the absence of Imitrex in your report. Continue to hang tough a little longer and you'll reap the benefits. PF |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.(Update) Post by 9erfan on Jan 21st, 2004, 4:31pm Ok, I'll pick up some Magnesum after work today. I swear I've spent SO much money at the drugstore in the last couple of months. No need to worry about me hittin the 'trex. I tried all forms (pills, nasal spray, and shots) a few months back and none worked for me. I am on 480 mg of Verap (240 2x a day), is that a problem? I am starting to ween off the Verap this week because it didn't work either. Last Friday the Dr gave me a scrip for Topomax but I'm not getting it filled until I ride out this experiment. Hangin on. V. |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.(Update) Post by Mastifflvr28 on Jan 22nd, 2004, 10:13am Good luck Virginia, Been looking forward to your updates, and PF vibes are going up to ya! Mast |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.(Update) Post by 357Mag on Jan 22nd, 2004, 12:07pm Being new here, and having reading since 5AM this morning, I thought i would take the easy way on this one... How can one get started on shrooms? So you need to start from spores and go thru the grow process, knnow someone that has a supply on hand, or can they be procured - ready for use? Peace, 357Mag |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.(Update) Post by Giovanni on Jan 22nd, 2004, 12:23pm Go here 357: www.clusterbusters.com |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.(Update) Post by 9erfan on Jan 26th, 2004, 1:13pm Well, where do I begin??? HELPPPPP!!!! My plan for last Friday was to dose again at 8pm Friday night with 1.2 grams. I was going to eat the same non-fat meal I ate last time at 6pm. Well, things didn't go as planned. I had to call in sick to work on Friday because my head was killing me all morning. I tried to go into work around noon but got hit hard again and decided not to. By 3:30 I couldn't take it anymore and decided not to wait until the evening before I dosed. I had eaten lunch at 1:30, it was a turkey & swiss sandwich (too much fat??? I don't know), mustard, no mayo. So I did my tea exactly the same (except with 1.2) and drank it at 4pm. Between 4 & 5 all I did was cry because my head was hurting so bad. Between 5 & 6pm I was "ok", could still feel pain but it wasn't as bad. I didn't have any visual disturbances when my eyes were opened but when I closed my eyes it was like I was seeing a whole movie playing out in my head. I definitely didn't feel giggly at all. At 6pm I got hit hard again and was balling my eyes out. This "trip" was shorter than the first one and over by 7pm. I don't know if the shrooms are old now, or if I did something wrong or what. I never got that "draining" feeling that I'm suppose to get. And I know exactly what it is suppose to feel like because I use to get that draining feeling back when I was episodic and the episode would come to an end. IT WAS THE BEST FEELING!! I didn't get any more bad hits after the 6 pm hit but Sat I was hung over ALL day and I pretty much had the dull shadows all day. I determined that I can only do these things on the weekend because of the long hangover that I get the next day. So I'm not sure what to do next.....I only have .6 grams left from my supply. I'm scared that I'm going to break and go get my Topomax scrip filled.....getting desperate.....any suggestions from the experts? Thanks! Virginia |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.(Update) Post by jminmilwaukee on Jan 26th, 2004, 2:42pm Don't give up yet Virginia as it seems things will get worse before they get better. Just a couple of ideas / points. 1. Not everyone gets that draining feeling. I have experienced it as have several others but not all. Do not count on having that feeling as a sign of things getting better. 2. Dull shadows for an entire day is actually a good sign as many have reported this (I have experienced it) after a dose that has actually made some headway. 3. You are running low and unfortunatly this may be too late for you unless you can obtain some more BUT we have been seeing an increased rate of success for those who brew some tea and just drink a litttle bit daily. What we hope is this will prove to be an effective way to beat the beast back without hitting the higher levels of dosing. I cannot stand the feeling of higher doses and have always had to plan around weekends also. 4. Keep a detailed log of when and how hard you get hit. This will help you clearly see patterns of relief developing which should in turn keep you off trex (NO TREX...NO TREX!!) Good luck, I am sure some others will have some advice for you also. jmin |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.(Update) Post by Pinkfloyd on Jan 27th, 2004, 12:31am on 01/26/04 at 13:13:15, 9erfan wrote:
Hi Virginia, You didn't mention how things went on Sunday or how things are going today/tonite. I'd stay positive and stay on the same program you've been following. Did you try the red bull and excedrin on saturday? The saturday reaction, although not pleasant is a sign that things are working, as jmin stated. Everything Jmin said is right on.. I'd make up some tea with what you have left and see when you might need it. The log is a good idea and these next two days are actually the ones that will give you the best reference of how it's working. Hey, if *I* can be optomistic, being a Bear fan, it should be easy for you. ;) PF |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.(Update) Post by 9erfan on Jan 27th, 2004, 7:25pm OK, here's the latest. I know that this stuff "changes" my headaches.... Sunday was basically just shadowing all day (small shadows) and no big hits. I did feel well enough to get out of the house and go get a manicure, pedicure, and the eyebrows waxed (I needed some girly pampering). Sunday night/monday morning got hit with the 4am h/a (my usual) but it wasn't very bad at all. Monday was about the same as Sunday, small shadows throughout the day and no big hits. Monday night, woke up around 3am to go to the bathroom and I was doing that little sanity check where you lay there going "ok, is one coming on....do I feel something there in the background about to materialize?....". There was a little something there but it never did materialize! YAY!! Got hit with about a 6 this morning at 8:45. It didn't last long at all. I just came out of a meeting where I got hit with a 7 at 2:45. It took a full hour to go away. That's my status right now. With only .6 grams left, is that really enough to make a batch of tea with? Do I make it the same way that I make the other tea? How much water do I need? Thanks, V. |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.(Update) Post by eyes_afire on Jan 27th, 2004, 7:56pm Quote:
I don't know what you did last time, but theoretically, the amount of water should be irrelevant if you will be taking the dose as a total dose (drink the whole thing). Of course I'm not accounting for any practical changes that may occur during preparation... this is purely theoretical. So basically, if you're taking it as a whole dose, you should be able to use the same amount of water as before. If you will be splitting the tea (like saving some for later) then the amount of water will be very important in determining the strength of dose. If taken this way, the tea is a homogenous solution of a specified concentration to be divided in portions. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me. --- Steve |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.(Update) Post by 9erfan on Jan 27th, 2004, 8:56pm on 01/27/04 at 19:56:37, eyes_afire wrote:
Huh?? I knew I should've finished college! I was talking about if I were to try it the way jm suggested by making a tea to store in the frig and sipping a little each day. Wasn't sure that I have enough to make a "batch". V. |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.(Update) Post by Pinkfloyd on Jan 28th, 2004, 12:51am on 01/27/04 at 20:56:09, 9erfan wrote:
Hi Virginia, It sounds like you've made some progress!!! Don't worry about that one misplaced "7" this afternoon. Until you break the cycle you may get one now and then. Thats why its important to keep that journal so you can compare "days." Since you have that .6g left, I'd make the tea, in 1.5 cup of water..(the two step method where you start with one cup, resoak in a half-cup and add together to make sure you get ALL the psilocybin. Its been over 4 days already since your last dose. Keep the tea handy now, in case you notice that things are beginning to ramp UP instead of continuing to improve. No one has quantified their "sips" yet and everyone is a little different anyways, so, I have a feeling that .3g is close to the size of their sips...(LOL..is this scientific or what?)...or they would have classified their sips as the larger...GULP. So, make your tea and you will have two doses at your disposal. Keep up the good work!!! ;;D PF |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.(Update) Post by 9erfan on Jan 28th, 2004, 3:07pm on 01/28/04 at 00:51:12, Pinkfloyd wrote:
Is this on the clusterbuster site? Thanks PF |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.(Update) Post by Pinkfloyd on Jan 28th, 2004, 3:16pm on 01/28/04 at 15:07:18, 9erfan wrote:
It's linked from there....but for easy reference.. http://www.clusterheadaches.com/wwwboard/messages2/110213.html PF |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.(Update) Post by 9erfan on Jan 31st, 2004, 9:13pm I'm back again. It's been an interesting week. Basically, I had 1 really bad headache every day around 3 or 4 in the afternoon. I was still waking up once in the middle of the night but it would be with a really small shadow and then I would be able to go back to sleep. So last night I did the rest of the shrooms (never got around to making the "batch" of tea & sipping). It had been 7 days since I last dosed. There was only .6 grams left. I really didn't feel anything at all after drinking the tea. And I wound up going to sleep about an hour & 1/2 after drinking the tea. I did have that ugly, groggy, hungover feeling again today so I stayed in bed until 11. I've had 1 really bad h/a today at around 4pm. Other than that, a few shadows. I may have to dose 1 or 2 more times to knock this thing completely out. [smiley=huh.gif] That's the latest... V. |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.(Update) Post by Pinkfloyd on Feb 1st, 2004, 2:25am You didn't mention the need for any Imitrex or ER visits in the last 7 days so I'm assuming that overall, things are still improving and you've been able to increase the time between doses. This last dose may do the trick but you won't know for a few days. Are you still trying to combat that "day after" problem with a couple excedrin and a Red Bull? Still on the B vitamins every day? Hope things continue to improve for you. PF |
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Title: Re: Another thread about shrooms.(Update) Post by 9erfan on Feb 1st, 2004, 7:33pm HI Pink, No, I don't use Imitrex. A few months ago I tried the shots, the nasal spray, and the pills (at different times) and none of them worked for me and each time I tried them I got hit with a horrendous REBOUND h/a so I don't use it at all now. I don't waste my time with ER visits either....they never give me anything that helps. Had 1 bad hit today at 3pm. And yes, still using the Red Bull & Execedrin for the "day after". I'll keep you posted on how this week goes. Thanks, Virginia |
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