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(Message started by: markg111 on Oct 16^th, 2003, 5:48pm)

Title: Cayenne Anyone???
Post by markg111 on Oct 16^th, 2003, 5:48pm

Hi,
I had to sign up as a new member... I forgot my old Info...
Anyway, has anyone tried cayenne with any success??

Title: Re: Cayenne Anyone???
Post by floridian on Oct 16^th, 2003, 6:58pm

As a nasal spray, no. It causes as much pain and eye watering as a cluster. In capsule form, maybe. It could have helped switch off a cycle, or it could be that I just happened to try it when that year's torture was ending. When taking large doses internally for long periods, there are some concerns with kidney damage. But for short term use, worth trying.

Title: Re: Cayenne Anyone???
Post by ave on Oct 17^th, 2003, 5:33am

Look for info in the older archives under the search facility top right (not the one in the toolbar, that is for recent archives).

I remember people using pepper (or capsaicin) cream, next to their noses, on their temple and even up their noses with some fair results, but not as a proper abortive.

Title: Re: Cayenne Anyone???
Post by vig on Oct 17^th, 2003, 1:23pm

I got it in my eye during an attack and I could feel it immediately soothe the inflamed nerves and stop the cluster.

no burning whatsoever.

Title: Re: Cayenne Anyone???
Post by JDH on Oct 17^th, 2003, 1:31pm

I've used Civamide and I think that has cayenne in it.
Didn't do diddly for me except make me wish I hadn't used it.
The nasal burn was pretty intense AND the ch's raged on.

Jim

Title: Re: Cayenne Anyone???
Post by vig on Oct 17^th, 2003, 1:44pm

Civamide is a synthetic form of Capsaicin.
Not supposed to burn.

Title: Re: Cayenne Anyone???
Post by JDH on Oct 17^th, 2003, 2:52pm

on 10/17/03 at 13:44:03, vig wrote:

Not supposed to burn.

whoever told you that is WRONG!

Jim

Title: Re: Cayenne Anyone???
Post by vig on Oct 17^th, 2003, 2:58pm

Civamide (cis-Capsaicin) for Treatment of Primary or Recurrent Experimental Genital Herpes
N. Bourne,* D. I. Bernstein, and L. R. Stanberry

Division of Infectious Diseases, Children's Hospital Medical Center, Cincinnati, Ohio

or
http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00069082?order=1

I guess Civamide is handy for lots of things...
and you thought it burned your EYES!

or
Conclusion: Intranasal civamide solution at a dose of 50 microg may be modestly effective in the preventive treatment of episodic cluster headache.
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/links/doi/10.1046/j.1526-4610.2003.03062_19.x/abs/

I'm sorry... modestly? feeble excuse.

Title: Re: Cayenne Anyone???
Post by LasVegas on Oct 17^th, 2003, 3:22pm

Is this the same stuff that I OD'd on in last night's chili?
Gregg in Las Vegas

Title: Re: Cayenne Anyone???
Post by vig on Oct 17^th, 2003, 3:44pm

same stuff.

Title: Re: Cayenne Anyone???
Post by JDH on Oct 17^th, 2003, 4:42pm

on 10/17/03 at 14:58:35, vig wrote:

Conclusion: Intranasal civamide solution at a dose of 50 microg may be modestly effective in the preventive treatment of episodic cluster headache.
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/links/doi/10.1046/j.1526-4610.2003.03062_19.x/abs/

I took part in a Civamide study about this time last year.
They had me use it twice a day for a week and they had me record my h/a's for the following month.
Thank god I only had to use it for one week. That is THE nastiest stuff I've tried yet for ch's...with the exception of Stadol :P
Anyway, I don't know whether I had a placebo or not but my ch cycle went on for about 4 more months.
No more for me thanks,

Jim