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(Message started by: Svenn on Aug 28^th, 2002, 4:11pm)

Title: New med-combination???????????????
Post by Svenn on Aug 28^th, 2002, 4:11pm

I have suffered from clusterheadache for about 20 years as most of you my friends here know.
Today i was at the hospital and took the stresstest of my heart and everything went just fine.
The cardiologist asked me a question about the combination of medication
First let me tell you that i has been diagnosed as cronic clusterhead for the last 3-4 years.
I got a heartattack last november.
After that i`m on Isoptin Retard 120mg daily"Verapamil"
Used that med for cluster to but not on regular bases
They gave me also Marevan 2,5mgX3 daily
After the heartattack i have only had 9 real easy attacks.No cycle.

I wonder if there is a positive influence of that combination of Isoptin "Verapamil" and Marevan?

If what i have been told is right:
Isoptin Retard"Verapamil" is a drug that "stabilize" the bloodvesels in the brain.

Marevan is a drug that dilutes the blood and the blood flows easyer.

Any other with the same experience on this?Or somebody that can give me a answer?

Hope you understand my "babelfish-english"

Your friend in Norway

Svenn

Title: Re: New med-combination???????????????
Post by Tom on Aug 28^th, 2002, 5:42pm

Svenn, sorry, but I don't beleave in your theories:

Warfarin/coumadin neither dilutes the blood (absolutely not !) nor does it enable it » to flow easier« - it only prevents clotting in narrow (=arteriosclerotic) parts of the arteries (and in too wide parts of the veins, too). And blood clotting is certainly no cause of CH, otherwise CHeads would be paralized by a brain stroke after their very first CH attack and dead after the second or the third one. I can't immagine any effect of warfarin/coumadin in CH.

»Isoptin Retard"verapamil" is a drug that "stabilizes" the bloodvesels in the brain« - again, there is absolutely no evidence that it works this way in CH. Why it works in CH is still a topic of hypothetic discussions...may be that it "catches" the vessel widening NO in the brain (=nitric oxide= the substance that causes the effect of sildenafil = Viagra® in other vessels) , ok, then it would ±support your theory. May be that it, as a Ca++ channel blocker, inhibits the formation and/or transmission of the pain itself (another Ca++ channel blocker, cinnaricin - Sibelium®, helps in migraines). Or may be that...

Thomas

Title: Re: New med-combination???????????????
Post by Svenn on Aug 28^th, 2002, 6:01pm

Hi Tom
Thanks for your reply,but i thought it was a interesting question from a cardio,so i just want to share this with my friend here.

My problem is that clusterheadaches almost disappeard after the heartattack and absolutely none can give me a realiable answer

My thought was that there could be a "sideeffect" on this combination of medication that could give some relieff to some of us

We has to remember that the human body acts different on the meds.

At least i thought it was the right thing to pop the question here.

Your Friend Svenn

Title: Re: New med-combination???????????????
Post by Tom on Aug 28^th, 2002, 6:16pm

Hi Svenn,

sure, why don't put his own theories on this site ? Everybody shuold be allowed to do that here!

Wish you ATB! Thomas