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(Message started by: ave on Feb 22^nd, 2002, 3:02pm)

Title: May have to dose again - shroom report
Post by ave on Feb 22^nd, 2002, 3:02pm

My tea gave me a perfectly well behaved little buzz, but I have the feeling it isn't doing very much for my headaches this time.

Probably left it too late. I know, Pinky, you warned me!

Shadows were away for a few days, but are back now, longer and more intense than before. Classic picture, hm?

May dose again next week.

Title: Re: May have to dose again - shroom report
Post by Margi on Feb 22^nd, 2002, 3:07pm

Oh, Ave, I'm so sorry to hear this. But it still may be that the psilocybin might kick the beast for you yet. I know the times that this has worked for Mike, he still got shadows and a few random attacks for the first couple of days after he dosed.
You're right though - best to try again in a few days, just to make sure you've given it a fair chance to work. I hope it works better for you than it did for Mike this time. Going into month 5 here, but he wasn't able to dose until well into month 1. Hope you've caught it in time!
Hugs
Margi

Title: Re: May have to dose again - shroom report
Post by nancyc on Feb 22^nd, 2002, 4:04pm

Go for it as soon as you can...it has been doing so good for you...pray it continues...please keep us posted. smiles,nancyc

Title: Re: May have to dose again - shroom report
Post by Margi on Feb 22^nd, 2002, 4:09pm

Ave, you DO know you have to wait at least 4 or 5 days between dosing, right? The part of the brain that receives the psilocybin actually closes it's little door for at least that long, so anything you do before that is just a waste.

Title: Re: May have to dose again - shroom report
Post by Ted on Feb 22^nd, 2002, 8:59pm

Margi's right. If you don't wait 4-5 days and do it as soon as possible it will be just wasting it. The "door" is shut until that time passes and it will net no beneficial medical results taking it too early.
Also, it is possible that a variation of what happens to me when I use the tea is happening to you. My head gets extraordinarily worse than it was for the first few days (and also tapering down during that time too). I get more attacks and more severe ones. But then it does the trick. I'd have to look in my journal (or the archives) to see exactly how long the worsening lasts for. But I'm hoping that's all that's happening to you and it does improve after a few days.

Title: Re: May have to dose again - shroom report
Post by Ike on Feb 24^th, 2002, 8:26am

...same as Ted, Ave.

I last dosed in July of '01. That seemed to piss the headaches off a little. They seemed to be more unpredictable and a little more intense, but as time went by, things seemed to settle down. August was better that July, September was better that August and so on. Two headaches in November, one in December and none since. KNOCK WOOD. KNOCK, KNOCK,KNOCK. I can't say for sure that the shrooms caused the remission, but something happened. If the shrooms did it...GREAT! If I cycled out...that's great too. I do know, that when I did the last dose, I was having some heavy duty shadows and a few headaches. Within thirty minutes, my head was more clear that it had ever been.

It could be that your hypo-thingy just needs to settle down a little. Another dose, however, could only help. Keep us posted. :-/

Title: Re: May have to dose again - shroom report
Post by Ted on Feb 24^th, 2002, 12:20pm

Just for clarification purposes, when I say the mushrooms "did the trick" I didn't mean they gave me a remission. I just meant it is probably what has kept me from a heavy cycle for the most part (I'll still go into a heavy for a few days sometimes, but I've been in a low or medium cycle mostly since late summer, and I never had this much time away from heavy cycle or such short ones when they come in about 15 years) since dosing. Another thing to mention is that I broke from my 1 1/2 year consistant heavy cycle about a week before dosing. But I am convinced that it's the shrooms that has kept things tamer than before.

Title: Re: May have to dose again - shroom report
Post by Flash on Feb 26^th, 2002, 4:02am

Hi ave,

I agree with what everyone else has said. From what you typed it sure looks like classic underdosing/late dosing syndrome.

In my experience 3 things may happen:

1) The headaches may get move severe.
2) The duration of the headaches may get longer or seem more frequent than normal - this is probably one and the same effect, if they get frequent enough they just appear to last longer :'(
3) The episode may be shorter than usual and end more abruptly.

It's almost like an accelerated episode where everything is packed into a couple of weeks. Very fuckin unpleasant :'(

You have 3 options:

1) Another dose of shrooms in 5 days time.
2) Tough it out for 10 days and then redose.
3) Tough it out altogether.

I went for option 2, but on day 10 my episode abruptly terminated. Next time this happens (shudder), I'll go for option 1. I have heard reports of others using option 1 with near instant success. Unfortunately we don't have enough data to recommend a particular course of action. This is where you come in handy 8)

Like pinky i'll reiterate that hallucinogenics work best when taken as early as practical. In my own experience it is best to take them once every 6 months regardless of whether you are showing signs or not. The downside is that 3 years down the line you might make the mistake of thinking you are cured.

This year I have a big problem - after a run in with the bunny boiler next door... I work from home, earn lots of money, and ride motorbikes, therefore I must be a drug dealer. Last October she called the police, so I flushed my shrooms down the toilet. The police never came though!!! Arrrrgghh. Now she's started tailing me in her car.

It isn't feasible to grow any shrooms right now because I am living in a caravan (small mobile trailer to those in the US), as my home is being rennovated. The rennovations should be completed in around 1 month, and provided I don't have a spring episode this might just give me just enough time to grow a crop and harvest it.

Luckily I had the prescence of mind to secure a prescription for O2. i've never had course to use it before but if I get hit before the crop comes in I might just go for it. As usual I will refrain from poisoning myself with any other medications.

Also I have a backup stash of 2 acid tabs. These are on 5mm square bits of thin card. They are several years old and have been exposed to damp. The chances of them working are virtually zero. If the worst happens then I'll try taking one.

Good luck ave. Keep me posted.

Flash

Title: Re: May have to dose again - shroom report
Post by nancyc on Feb 26^th, 2002, 9:41am

Flash, what do you think about chronic clusterheads using shrooms? How should they dose, etc. Thanks.

Title: Re: May have to dose again - shroom report
Post by ave on Feb 26^th, 2002, 10:06am

To everybody who reacted: thanks very much.

My main reasons for thinking they did not work,
a. Missed that empty feeling at my temple I had last time
b. Am getting shadows that run their course instead of being fragmented into tiny pinpricks like last time.
c. Missed the whimpy little headaches of last time

To please Flash (no, not really, I have other considerations) I WILL take option 2, chiefly because it is just heavy shadows we are talking about. They might develop into full blown attacks of course but I don't know that.

To Nancy if you have redosed and redosed and are still getting hit - o, girl, I feel for you.

Title: nancyc - chronics and hallucinogens
Post by Flash on Feb 27^th, 2002, 3:10pm

Nancy,

We don't have much data on this, but what we do have is good quality stuff. There are 2 chronics out there both using periodic shroom doses to achieve sustained remission.

In both cases they began dosing every 5 days at around level 2-3, then gradually decreased the magnitude and frequency of the dose to around level 1 every 4-6 weeks.

I believe both these people are Dutch and have plentiful access to shrooms. It would be possible to produce enough home grown to achieve similar without too many problems.

The key appears to be keeping on top of the situation.

I'd recommend dosing at the level you previously achieved success with at least every 5-10 days, then try reducing the dose and or lengthening the time between doses.

Flash

Title: Re: May have to dose again - shroom report
Post by nancyc on Feb 27^th, 2002, 3:45pm

Thanks Flash, Pinky and Mast for all the info...will keep you posted.