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(Message started by: wanna_swap_brains on Apr 3^rd, 2008, 2:48am)

Title: prednisolone question
Post by wanna_swap_brains on Apr 3^rd, 2008, 2:48am

hi,been taking prednisolone & verapamil since saturday and through reading on here i know it aint the verapamil thats doing anything yet,it seems like its trying,but cant get in to top gear as much as usual,has the prednisolone annoyed my "friend",anyone else noticed this or anything similar? stuart

Title: Re: prednisolone question
Post by Guiseppi on Apr 3^rd, 2008, 10:01am

Prednisone never had that effect on me. Within 24 hours of starting the pred I'm pain free. It's posible you may need to kick the verapamil up, many find they have to increase dosing as the years go be to keep it at an effective level. (With the usual warning that verapamil is a high octane med, you shouldn't raise or lower the level without the guidance of your doc.)

If they start breaking through after the pred taper is up t may be time to kick up the dose. Good luck!

Guiseppi

Title: Re: prednisolone question
Post by brewcrew on Apr 3^rd, 2008, 10:31am

If anybody's not getting along with Little Elvis, it's Mr. Verapamil - not the steroids.

Title: Re: prednisolone question
Post by Guiseppi on Apr 3^rd, 2008, 10:39am

You know in reading his, my and your post Brew...I may have mis understood the question. If your "friend" you speak of is the beast, read my post, if your "friend" is the small brain all us men think with, read Brew's post. ;;D

When I was quite young and virile, in my mid 20's, on top of the world, I went on verapamil for a short period of time. My "friend"...the one nearest and dearest to my heart, stopped listening to me. :'( Thank goodness i discovered lithium!!!!

Guiseppi

Title: Re: prednisolone question
Post by wanna_swap_brains on Apr 3^rd, 2008, 11:52am

thanks for replying,i go up to 360 verapamil on saturday and down to 55 prednisolone.ive now also got oxygen and injections(when needed).i read about the fire extinguisher effect(prednisolone),but it dint seem to happen like that for me.its noticable in my headache diary though(and head)so summats going on in there.got my appetite back a bit more aswell.whats the max prednisolone theyll start you on? stuart

Title: Re: prednisolone question
Post by brewcrew on Apr 3^rd, 2008, 12:01pm

on 04/03/08 at 11:52:36, wanna_swap_brains wrote:

I wish I knew what this all meant, but I'll answer your question. For me the most I've ever started on (prednisone, not prednisolone) is 80mg per day. Taken all at once, first thing in the morning. Most closely replicates your body's production of adrenaline.

Title: Re: prednisolone question
Post by wanna_swap_brains on Apr 3^rd, 2008, 12:56pm

i wish i knew what it all meant too mate,just glad to be getting summat done about it,thanks anyway

Title: Re: prednisolone question
Post by Bob_Johnson on Apr 3^rd, 2008, 2:15pm

The starting dose of pred. ranges from 10 to 100mg in the medical literature with the higher end (70-90mg). If you started much lower, you may wish to increase the dose and start another round. Obviously, you doc controls the decision.

Title: Re: prednisolone question
Post by wanna_swap_brains on Apr 3^rd, 2008, 3:49pm

i was started on 60mg a day for a week then dropped by 5 daily till finish,so it could be on the low side?? are the 2 preds similar or is there a big difference in what they do??thanks

Title: Re: prednisolone question
Post by brewcrew on Apr 3^rd, 2008, 4:01pm

I don't know the difference between them.

I have started as high as 80, but most often I start at 60.

Title: Re: prednisolone question
Post by wanna_swap_brains on Apr 3^rd, 2008, 4:51pm

brewcrew,when you start at 60 does that knock it on the head (pardon the pun)pretty quick like guiseppe said??thanks

Title: Re: prednisolone question
Post by chewy on Apr 3^rd, 2008, 4:53pm

Quote:

i wish i knew what it all meant too mate

Ask Guiseppi. He mated once. 8)

Title: Re: prednisolone question
Post by Guiseppi on Apr 3^rd, 2008, 5:05pm

Ask Guiseppi. He mated once.

30 years later the memory still brings a smile to my face...sigh... ::)

Prednisone at 30 mg a day provides 100% relief for me. Many have to go a lot higher I know.

Guiseppi

Title: Re: prednisolone question
Post by brewcrew on Apr 3^rd, 2008, 5:36pm

on 04/03/08 at 16:51:09, wanna_swap_brains wrote:

brewcrew,when you start at 60 does that knock it on the head (pardon the pun)pretty quick like guiseppe said??thanks

I get almost complete relief within twelve hours at 60mg.

Title: Re: prednisolone question
Post by barry_sword on Apr 3^rd, 2008, 6:06pm

My Neuro scripted Prednisone for me at 50mg x 12 pills to be taken at once, then 12 per day for one week then a taper starting with dropping one pill a day until finished. Stops my CH's in it's track.

But, I now have o2 at my ready and never had it before at the start of a cycle, have used Prednisone as my main abortive. I got my o2 about midway through my last cycle, but I take 480mg Verapamil as a prevent which is my cocktail!

Sorry for the rambling, but be careful with what you use, I do not like Prednisone at all so I pray with my next cycle the o2 does it's thing and the Verapamil keeps them at bay like last time.

(Note) Verap gives you the time to do other things, get a hobby or something. ;;D

Title: Re: prednisolone question
Post by CostaRicaKris on Apr 3^rd, 2008, 11:12pm

I start Prednisone at 60 mg and that dose works for me. Of course, I'm a girl- if that matters. (Well, I guess it does) [smiley=blush.gif]

Title: Re: prednisolone question
Post by brewcrew on Apr 4^th, 2008, 7:06am

on 04/03/08 at 18:06:07, barry_sword wrote:

My Neuro scripted Prednisone for me at 50mg x 12 pills to be taken at once, then 12 per day for one week then a taper starting with dropping one pill a day until finished.

Lemme make sure I understand this, Barry. The first day you take 600mg? That's like post-op organ transplant level. Wow. Just wow.

Title: Re: prednisolone question
Post by barry_sword on Apr 4^th, 2008, 7:19am

on 04/04/08 at 07:06:52, brewcrew wrote:

Lemme make sure I understand this, Barry. The first day you take 600mg? That's like post-op organ transplant level. Wow. Just wow.

I went back into my files of scripts and double checked the dosage and it reads 50 in my Neuro's hand writing. On the pill bottle it reads 5mg x 12 daily=60mg daily. [smiley=bag.gif]

Thanks for catching that Bill, I sure wish Doc's could write so others can read what they put on paper.

That original dose I posted would make me look like Hulk Hogan just before I blew up! ;;D

Title: Re: prednisolone question
Post by brewcrew on Apr 4^th, 2008, 7:33am

http://givemetherock.com/images/knicks/Buckwheat.jpg
O-tay. That sounds a little more do-able. Otherwise you'd have to form a hand-to-hand line from the grocery to your mouth.

Title: Re: prednisolone question
Post by barry_sword on Apr 4^th, 2008, 7:41am

;;D Good one Brew! That is why we keep telling everyone on this board that we are not Doctors, thank god! :o

Can you imagine if one took that much Prednisone? I would probably look something like the guy on the right!

http://www.fugly.com/media/IMAGES/Gross/steroids.jpg

[smiley=JAW_DROP.gif] [smiley=JAW_DROP.gif]

On a serious note, Meds can be very dangerous, follow your Doctors orders. ;)